2021 nba offseason draft free agency etc

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nobody from the suburbs of portland is becoming a hot shot nba guy it’s just not a reality

Clay, Saturday, 19 June 2021 02:17 (two years ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Saturday, 19 June 2021 02:18 (two years ago) link

re: okc, they have 39 picks over the next 7 years, avg of over 5 picks per draft.

if they get 4 and 5 in this draft my lord

― lag∞n, Friday, June 18, 2021 12:25 PM (nine hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

its even worse: if the rockets pick falls to 5 or below, thunders get it. okc could have 1 and 5. cade, kuminga, and shai would be a core.

class project pat (m bison), Saturday, 19 June 2021 03:13 (two years ago) link

I woke up in the middle of the night and realized that there is one team that needs a point guard, has cap space to absorb a max contract, and would be out of the spotlight so Simmons could get his game back together: The New York Knickerbockers.

Vin Jawn (PBKR), Monday, 21 June 2021 11:44 (two years ago) link

so close

class project pat (m bison), Monday, 21 June 2021 12:56 (two years ago) link

(the correct answer is the spurs)

class project pat (m bison), Monday, 21 June 2021 12:56 (two years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/hehRvPI.png

lag∞n, Monday, 21 June 2021 13:01 (two years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/MFD7Zym.png

lag∞n, Monday, 21 June 2021 13:11 (two years ago) link

poor myles must have been trending for the last 3+ years now

what are okc going to do with simmons ridiculous contract for the next 4 years tho. if they want a center who cant shoot there are plenty outside every lottery

micah, Monday, 21 June 2021 13:18 (two years ago) link

apparently simmons also has a 15% trade kicker ahahahha

micah, Monday, 21 June 2021 13:21 (two years ago) link

they should trade embiid instead then

ciderpress, Monday, 21 June 2021 13:23 (two years ago) link

Simmons description in Trade Machine is weird and also somehow accurate. I guess "ham-handed PG who wants his mommy" wouldn't fit.

Vin Jawn (PBKR), Monday, 21 June 2021 13:26 (two years ago) link

what are okc going to do with simmons ridiculous contract for the next 4 years tho. if they want a center who cant shoot there are plenty outside every lottery

― micah, Monday, June 21, 2021 9:18 AM (eighteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

can they grab and go on the fast break? guard 1-5? would likely be a devastating roll man if given a chance? simmons is a good player! with a rare and valuable skillset! he could be tall draymond! i am worried about his mindstate but kemba and a couple picks is a worthy risk, his contract is big so if he totally flames out its a problem true

lag∞n, Monday, 21 June 2021 13:41 (two years ago) link

the thing amongst others that drives me crazy about simmons being a tall guy who cant shoot yet does not play center is his ball handling and passing skills would be so much more valuable there, centers dont usually have those skills so if you put a guy who does at center then youre team has a skill advantage, if you play him at point guard he is just another point guard who can dribble and pass except he cant score

lag∞n, Monday, 21 June 2021 13:44 (two years ago) link

this is all true also cavs would not do that trade and not sure the sixers would either

class project pat (m bison), Monday, 21 June 2021 13:47 (two years ago) link

maybe... but maybe not, also what about two firsts for nance

lag∞n, Monday, 21 June 2021 13:48 (two years ago) link

idk i think the cavs are trying to win soon, i dont think theyre in "trade our best defender for future picks" zone yet but i cd be wrong, i dont follow that franchise

class project pat (m bison), Monday, 21 June 2021 13:51 (two years ago) link

yeah idk where the cavs are at but lets assume the sixers have to trade simmons which i think is not a bad assumption, i dont what the offers are going to look like, how much better than kemba and nance do they get, probably not that much better, conceivably not any better, possibly worse, that contract makes simmons a pretty big bet

lag∞n, Monday, 21 June 2021 13:52 (two years ago) link

i don’t think the cavs know where the cavs are.

call all destroyer, Monday, 21 June 2021 13:54 (two years ago) link

would the wizards take two of okcs firsts for beal? does beal want to go to the sixers?

lag∞n, Monday, 21 June 2021 13:54 (two years ago) link

i think the wizards could get better than two firsts

micah, Monday, 21 June 2021 13:59 (two years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/ownmGuy.png

lag∞n, Monday, 21 June 2021 14:02 (two years ago) link

that's something but it doens't seem right that philly only gives up simmons (negative value) and a low first to get back beal. maxey won't move the needle either

the other catch is that okc are in no rush to dump kemba whereas philly need to make a deal state

micah, Monday, 21 June 2021 14:06 (two years ago) link

the thing amongst others that drives me crazy about simmons being a tall guy who cant shoot yet does not play center is his ball handling and passing skills would be so much more valuable there, centers dont usually have those skills so if you put a guy who does at center then youre team has a skill advantage, if you play him at point guard he is just another point guard who can dribble and pass except he cant score

― lag∞n, Monday, 21 June 2021 11:44 PM (fifteen minutes ago)

idk man. maybe if youre playing against old style teams with a big center. but with simmons at center youre playing small ball, and youre going to run into more and more teams who are also playing small ball but proper 5 out small ball where everyone can shoot

micah, Monday, 21 June 2021 14:09 (two years ago) link

simmons can guard the 3pt line its no problem

lag∞n, Monday, 21 June 2021 14:10 (two years ago) link

okc would im sure be overjoyed to dump kemba, you want to talk about a contract that is actually underwater that is it

lag∞n, Monday, 21 June 2021 14:11 (two years ago) link

I really like Maxey, but I would have to give that some deep thought.

Vin Jawn (PBKR), Monday, 21 June 2021 14:14 (two years ago) link

if anything okc getting to dump kemba and getting simmons and maxey for two picks is just not enough

lag∞n, Monday, 21 June 2021 14:17 (two years ago) link

wizards might prefer to just deal directly with philly simmons maxey and a pick for beal

lag∞n, Monday, 21 June 2021 14:18 (two years ago) link

simmons can guard the 3pt line its no problem

― lag∞n, Tuesday, 22 June 2021 12:10 AM (eight minutes ago)

yes but in this theoretical scenario his team would still be disadvantaged on offence

micah, Monday, 21 June 2021 14:22 (two years ago) link

Trading him now at his all-time low in value seems insane to me.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 21 June 2021 14:26 (two years ago) link

it does but not sure they have any choice, embiid calling him out in his press conference, fans hating him, its not good, and with the poor fit in philly are things really going to improve for him

lag∞n, Monday, 21 June 2021 14:27 (two years ago) link

yes but in this theoretical scenario his team would still be disadvantaged on offence

― micah, Monday, June 21, 2021 10:22 AM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i dont think necessarily, if he can develop into a good role man then you can punish the other team for going small, like do you really want marcus morris trying to stop that, ayton cant shoot but he was a problem for the clips going small yesterday, just one of those classic matchup imposing your will battles that make the game interesting

lag∞n, Monday, 21 June 2021 14:28 (two years ago) link

his value might not even be an all time low, at least he is still young enough now to have some prospects for rehabilitation, if he still cant shoot a lick next season his value could tank... more

micah, Monday, 21 June 2021 14:29 (two years ago) link

Why not fire Rivers first and see if that helps :)

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 21 June 2021 14:31 (two years ago) link

Simmons can't handle Philly when the fans are uber positive trying to will him to make a FT. No way he can handle negative Philly.

Vin Jawn (PBKR), Monday, 21 June 2021 14:32 (two years ago) link

feel like there's going to be a weird nexus where teams should only make buy-low offers but his perceived value/pedigree will make it hard for philly to accept a buy-low offer

call all destroyer, Monday, 21 June 2021 14:33 (two years ago) link

xp even if you make the Big Shot, the glory fades, and they will tear you apart for a couple unsolved child murder cases left on your desk.

butyrate humbucker bobbins (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 21 June 2021 17:15 (two years ago) link

The Matisse of Easttown

symsymsym, Monday, 21 June 2021 17:23 (two years ago) link

philly people really some characters 😂but ben simmons gotta go pic.twitter.com/I5uBbxaKbd

— Sʜᴏᴘ Aɴɢᴇʟ Aʟʟᴜʀᴇ (@856si) June 21, 2021

Philly fans really selling themselves to the available nba talent in that video. should see them go negative.

butyrate humbucker bobbins (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 21 June 2021 17:32 (two years ago) link

philly fans to ben simmons

butyrate humbucker bobbins (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 21 June 2021 17:36 (two years ago) link

"crumbbum" lol

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 21 June 2021 17:43 (two years ago) link

Give him the ol' 23 skidoo

philly fans do not play if you disappoint them for years on end they will straight up call you a crumbum

lag∞n, Monday, 21 June 2021 17:50 (two years ago) link

lol

butyrate humbucker bobbins (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 21 June 2021 18:17 (two years ago) link

100% FG%... pretty good!! lol

Ben Simmons 4th quarter this series:
Game 1: 2-2 FG
Game 2: 0-0 FG
Game 3: 1-1 FG
Game 4: 0-0 FG
Game 5: 0-0 FG
Game 6: 0-0 FG
Game 7: 0-0 FG

— Tom Haberstroh (@tomhaberstroh) June 21, 2021

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 21 June 2021 18:55 (two years ago) link

Simmons better wear a helmet next year if he's still on the roster. They won't be dumping popcorn on the other team.

Vin Jawn (PBKR), Monday, 21 June 2021 19:22 (two years ago) link

a helmet with a bowl on top, if the popcorn level exceeds the bowl's line, simmons may take all free throw points without shooting them.

butyrate humbucker bobbins (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 21 June 2021 19:52 (two years ago) link


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