ESPN Sources: Discussions on Ben Simmons' future with the Sixers started in Chicago this week, including Klutch CEO/agent Rich Paul and franchise's front office. No trade request was made, but talks will continue. https://t.co/UsCfhS173L— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 24, 2021
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 24 June 2021 16:01 (three years ago) link
bizarre
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 24 June 2021 16:19 (three years ago) link
i guess if they feel like the sixers are gonna trade him they want to choose where he goes but it’s not like they have much leverage
i like how in that article - which was obviously sourced from the ben simmons camp and/or the sixers - it says that "his trade value in the marketplace is still significant, sources said"
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 24 June 2021 16:26 (three years ago) link
lol
― lag∞n, Thursday, 24 June 2021 16:36 (three years ago) link
What's to discuss? Get him off the team, now.
― Vin Jawn (PBKR), Thursday, 24 June 2021 16:57 (three years ago) link
would think the 76ers want to try and build his value back up now. there couldnt be a worse time to trade him.
― pure rim rest (Spottie), Thursday, 24 June 2021 17:29 (three years ago) link
theres that but also what if this is cutting their losses? if the problems are shooting/psychological and he continues to not progress and/or hilly continues using his reputation as a public toilet, that could tank his value even more.
― class project pat (m bison), Thursday, 24 June 2021 17:34 (three years ago) link
they need to open their season on the road and he needs to hit five 3s in that season-opening game or something, in order for philly to be an environment where it is psychologically possible for him to build his value back up
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 24 June 2021 17:35 (three years ago) link
he needs to give them enough of a spark that they can muster the hope to at least root for him
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 24 June 2021 17:36 (three years ago) link
carlisle dropping a match on his way out the door
Rick Carlisle on his Mavs: "It's hard to put an exact finger on it. It’s just a feeling that I had that it would be mutually beneficial. My hope is that Jason Kidd will be the next coach of the Mavs because he and Luka have so many things in common as players."— Tim MacMahon (@espn_macmahon) June 24, 2021
― lag∞n, Thursday, 24 June 2021 17:52 (three years ago) link
wtf, jesus
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 24 June 2021 17:56 (three years ago) link
― pure rim rest (Spottie), Thursday, June 24, 2021 1:29 PM (twenty-nine minutes ago)
yeah and w/ morey as GM they will have a very keen understanding of value
i think the issue is that you a. risk the rebuilding of value not happening and then have to make an in-season trade at the same value which will be even more difficult than trading him in the offseason b. he plays better and they get tricked into thinking he's improved and then we hit the playoffs and the fit doesn't work and they're back in the same spot a year from now w/ another wasted year of embiid
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 24 June 2021 18:05 (three years ago) link
i don't get the shade in that quote involving kidd and luka? carlisle thanked kidd in his iphone resignation note it seems like he genuinely respects him
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 24 June 2021 18:12 (three years ago) link
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― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, June 24, 2021 1:35 PM (twenty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, June 24, 2021 1:36 PM (twenty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
I am tired of hearing that the Sixers are selling low on Simmons, which assumes that he gets his shit together shoots >50% on FTs and maybe learns to shoot from outside 10ft. Let someone else figure this headcase out.
I am also willing to bet that keeping Simmons means losing Embiid.
― Vin Jawn (PBKR), Thursday, 24 June 2021 18:13 (three years ago) link
am i the only one confused as to why j kidd is a candidate for anything? domestic violence charges, ripping through six packs at work in milwaukee. i thought everyone kind of hated him
― Heez, Thursday, 24 June 2021 18:18 (three years ago) link
yeah it's not shade so much as that would not be a good move for dallas, or luka. carlisle might mean it sincerely though
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 24 June 2021 18:22 (three years ago) link
If Embiid really wants to lose Simmons, he should probably catch him around the free throw line and then attempt to dribble him toward the basket.
― butyrate humbucker bobbins (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 24 June 2021 18:24 (three years ago) link
I wish Dirk was interested in the job
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 24 June 2021 18:35 (three years ago) link
dirk lacks gravitas imo, he's like a cross between arnold schwarzenegger and marmaduke
― class project pat (m bison), Thursday, 24 June 2021 18:37 (three years ago) link
marmadirk
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 24 June 2021 18:39 (three years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Thursday, June 24, 2021 2:12 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
no shade, just a bad idea lol
― lag∞n, Thursday, 24 June 2021 19:36 (three years ago) link
my feeling is the sixers probably can find an offer that will allow them to let simmons go to start a new life, not a great offer but one that is like ok were probably not going to do better
― lag∞n, Thursday, 24 June 2021 19:38 (three years ago) link
The Dallas Mavericks are closing in on the hiring a new GM and Jason Kidd has emerged as a strong frontrunner to be hired as head coach, sources tell @espn_macmahon and me.— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 24, 2021
― pure rim rest (Spottie), Thursday, 24 June 2021 22:57 (three years ago) link
amazing
did they not watch the pre-bud bucks? and buds not even good!
― pure rim rest (Spottie), Thursday, 24 June 2021 22:58 (three years ago) link
Luka is a bit young to be a coach killer, but he's always been ahead of the curve for his age.
― What's It All About, Althea? (Aimless), Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:02 (three years ago) link
very weird that woj is able to leak the name of the coach who is going to be hired by the GM before he can leak the name of the GM
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:05 (three years ago) link
Can we get a vibe check forecast on the 2021-22 Dallas Mavericks
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:11 (three years ago) link
the vibes are weird and dark baby
― Clay, Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:14 (three years ago) link
luka's last year of his rookie contract + very little in the way of tradable assets + THJ is a FA + no 1RP this year + domestic-abusing coaching washout + mark cuban still alive and making decisions = F+ vibes
― class project pat (m bison), Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:17 (three years ago) link
i think dallas has very quickly become my go-to villain franchise
― class project pat (m bison), Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:18 (three years ago) link
plus they have zinger and will probably lose boban
― pure rim rest (Spottie), Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:20 (three years ago) link
boban has to go back to philly and replace dwight for vibes restoration purposes
― class project pat (m bison), Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:21 (three years ago) link
tobi and bobi need to be reunited true
― pure rim rest (Spottie), Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:21 (three years ago) link
i think the odds that they're playing as one of the 4 best teams in the west a few months into the season and nobody really cares about any of this stuff are pretty good
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:21 (three years ago) link
build the roster fam, how is that shit happening
― class project pat (m bison), Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:22 (three years ago) link
they were a top 5 seed this year, the nuggets will be w/o murray for most of the season, clippers may not have kawhi for most of the season, phoenix and utah were both extremely healthy this season. i don't think the mavs will get worse, not sure how much better they'll get but they're gonna bring back basically their entire team or use their cap space to replace hardaway. they also have one of the 5 best players in the NBA. it wouldn't take much for them to be top 4 in the west come january or w/e
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:27 (three years ago) link
they are looking at a major coaching downgrade
― lag∞n, Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:29 (three years ago) link
The Mavs have one good player, a historically bad head coach and a front office in open turmoil
― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:33 (three years ago) link
lakers and gs getting healthy, too, memphis internal improvement
― class project pat (m bison), Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:45 (three years ago) link
they were 5th but tied record with 6 PDX and 7 LAL. the west is only gonna get more competitive next year again. only two teams will be tanking to start (hou/okc). and no FA wants a part of dallas right now (have they ever?).
― pure rim rest (Spottie), Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:47 (three years ago) link
a lot hinges on if luka shows up engaged and in shape. they dug themselves a pretty big hole early this season.
― pure rim rest (Spottie), Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:53 (three years ago) link
Let’s not forget Luka doesn’t like Zinger. Zinger seems like one of these guys who really needs his teammates to embrace playing to his strengths. Not saying he’s gonna go Full Ben Simmons but easy to imagine things falling apart for his role on the team in a pretty major way. That’s part of why Kidd is a bad idea - basketball mind aside, the dude seems to be a drama magnet
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:54 (three years ago) link
the margins separating a lot of these teams are going to be pretty thin as always in the west and the mavs have a top 5 player in the conference, there's plenty of scenarios where they're aren't playing as one of the top 4 seeds in the first half of the season but there's plenty of scenarios where they are, more than you guys are allowing
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 24 June 2021 23:56 (three years ago) link
ive taken DRAMATIC mod actions for this take
― class project pat (m bison), Friday, 25 June 2021 00:00 (three years ago) link
i do think it is really gross that they're hiring kidd given what we know about how women were treated in that organization. as a coach he'll prob be average or something, his teams were mostly above .500 in milwaukee and brooklyn and he'll have better talent in dallas, but they really should've had enough self awareness to avoid that one
― J0rdan S., Friday, 25 June 2021 00:04 (three years ago) link
mavs worst team in nba 2022 book it
― Clay, Friday, 25 June 2021 00:05 (three years ago) link
I know I complain about Budenholzer a lot but he’s so much better than Kidd. You’re never gonna win a playoff series with that guy.
― frogbs, Friday, 25 June 2021 00:06 (three years ago) link
damn the hand of the mod is swift and just
― Clay, Friday, 25 June 2021 00:06 (three years ago) link