can’t say the last 3 weeks have looked great for me but it’s all settled now and i believe in the macro trend of having luka doncic
― J0rdan S., Friday, 25 June 2021 04:11 (two years ago) link
my main memory of Kidd was that he would run the same defensive sets every single time, once the opposing team figured it out they could pretty much always get a guy open from 3 which is why the Bucks gave up like 120 pts/game despite having some pretty great defenders
― frogbs, Friday, 25 June 2021 04:18 (two years ago) link
According to @JeremyWoo: "The Cavaliers have begun to explore trade options involving Collin Sexton. There’s belief around the NBA that Cleveland prefers to move on from Sexton, rather than sign him to a deal that would greatly inhibit their flexibility." https://t.co/wSNaqKYnhi— Alex Kennedy (@AlexKennedyNBA) June 25, 2021
― pure rim rest (Spottie), Friday, 25 June 2021 08:26 (two years ago) link
flexibility to...
― micah, Friday, 25 June 2021 08:27 (two years ago) link
draft more guards
― lag∞n, Friday, 25 June 2021 11:17 (two years ago) link
cavs are just like, hmmmm yeah let’s break off a lil 10 year playoff drought
― J0rdan S., Friday, 25 June 2021 14:45 (two years ago) link
wish i could remember where i heard that opposing players were taunting various cavs by telling them that sexton would never pass them the ball.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 25 June 2021 14:48 (two years ago) link
good on the cavs i guess if they can sell high before they get locked into his first big contract, if they don't believe in him. but given the organization we are discussing, the idea that they have an alternative plan that is better in any way is unlikely to the point of impossible. do they think someone is gonna trade them a top 5 pick in this draft for him?
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 25 June 2021 15:50 (two years ago) link
no
― lag∞n, Friday, 25 June 2021 16:01 (two years ago) link
oh obv not, but they may be delusional enough to "test the waters"
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 25 June 2021 16:03 (two years ago) link
might be able to get something in the low lottery, someone would have to be enthusiastic about paying sexton tho
― lag∞n, Friday, 25 June 2021 16:03 (two years ago) link
maybe they can move for an overpaid vet they seem like a team "that wants to make the playoffs"
― lag∞n, Friday, 25 June 2021 16:04 (two years ago) link
maybe they just got tired of playing that old chestnut "Kevin Love is on the trading block" and needed to mix it up a little
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 25 June 2021 16:07 (two years ago) link
thing is, if mobley falls to #3, sexton-garland-okoro-mobley-allen is a really intriguing starting 5!
― class project pat (m bison), Friday, 25 June 2021 16:09 (two years ago) link
can’t imagine there are many teams out there looking to trade real assets in order to pay a tiny ball hog PG a bunch of money except perhaps another poorly run franchise
― J0rdan S., Friday, 25 June 2021 16:12 (two years ago) link
i’m looking at the standings rn and i don’t see a single fit for a sexton trade they’re prob stuck with him
― J0rdan S., Friday, 25 June 2021 16:13 (two years ago) link
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 25 June 2021 16:25 (two years ago) link
I wonder if some teams will see Reggie Jackson going off in the playoffs and consider the fact that Sexton is Reggie with 5 times the talent
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 25 June 2021 16:26 (two years ago) link
Sexton is a tiny ball hog point guard but he also scored the shit out of the ball and gets better every year
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 25 June 2021 16:33 (two years ago) link
can’t imagine there are many teams out there looking to trade real assets in order to pay a tiny ball hog PG a bunch of money except perhaps another poorly run franchise― J0rdan S., Friday, June 25, 2021 9:12 AM (nineteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglinki’m looking at the standings rn and i don’t see a single fit for a sexton trade they’re prob stuck with him― J0rdan S., Friday, June 25, 2021 9:13 AM (seventeen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
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― J0rdan S., Friday, June 25, 2021 9:13 AM (seventeen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
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― pure rim rest (Spottie), Friday, 25 June 2021 16:36 (two years ago) link
If Isiah was running the team they would already have traded for him
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 25 June 2021 16:37 (two years ago) link
otm haha
― pure rim rest (Spottie), Friday, 25 June 2021 16:37 (two years ago) link
knicks trading for sexton might not even be a bad idea
― lag∞n, Friday, 25 June 2021 16:47 (two years ago) link
idk what they wld trade but still
yeah that one does fit. maybe quickley and a pick or something. would be pretty dumb by the knicks but i could see it happening
― J0rdan S., Friday, 25 June 2021 16:55 (two years ago) link
sounds about right
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 25 June 2021 16:58 (two years ago) link
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, June 25, 2021 12:26 PM (twenty-nine minutes ago)
i think the difference is that reggie jackson is actually kinda big for a guard, he's more suited to playing off the ball in a number of ways, esp in the playoffs he can guard 3 positions and not kill you. sexton is like bottom 5 percentile for the NBA in terms of size, it's just hard for me to imagine him being an off ball player. and when reggie jackson was getting paid real money in the prime of his career it didn't work out. he's nice to have on a minimum contract tho
also it's pretty debatable whether sexton has gotten much better, his stats between the last two seasons are essentially identical. he started passing a bit more. i don't hate him it just seems obvious he's gonna have to be the focal point of your offense at this stage in your career and i'm not sure where that's getting you. maybe the second round one year?
― J0rdan S., Friday, 25 June 2021 17:07 (two years ago) link
knicks fans might burn down the city if they make the second round
― lag∞n, Friday, 25 June 2021 17:13 (two years ago) link
lol i was gonna say, 2nd round in the east is kinda respectable! which is abt all that cleveland can aspire to when bron doesnt play for them
― class project pat (m bison), Friday, 25 June 2021 17:23 (two years ago) link
he's not getting anywhere near the second round w/ the cavs. maybe on a better team... i guess the knicks are better? sexton and julius randle trying to share the ball would be really funny
― J0rdan S., Friday, 25 June 2021 17:27 (two years ago) link
if you've washed out with the cavs and every opportunity in the world to have the ball it's not a great sign. sexton has talent and someday he'll be another reggie jackson--a guy making the minimum who finds a spot for half a season on a team where he's the 6th-best player.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 25 June 2021 17:31 (two years ago) link
NB i am not sexton believer and i dont think cleveland will be like GOOD good but theyll at least have something resembling a plan
― class project pat (m bison), Friday, 25 June 2021 17:33 (two years ago) link
a guy making the minimum who finds a spot for half a season on a team where he's the 6th-best player.
which, when you consider the intense global competition for NBA roster spots, is still pretty respectable as a hoops career.
― What's It All About, Althea? (Aimless), Friday, 25 June 2021 17:35 (two years ago) link
i dont think cleveland will be like GOOD good but theyll at least have something resembling a plan
― class project pat (m bison), Friday, June 25, 2021 1:33 PM (two minutes ago)
am i allowed to yellow card you back?
― J0rdan S., Friday, 25 June 2021 17:36 (two years ago) link
yah guys like sexton just have to realize their calling in life as a 6th man chucker
― pure rim rest (Spottie), Friday, 25 June 2021 17:51 (two years ago) link
xp haha no I ALONE!!
― class project pat (m bison), Friday, 25 June 2021 17:54 (two years ago) link
crazy that jacksons making the minimum and balling out in the offs
― lag∞n, Friday, 25 June 2021 17:59 (two years ago) link
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 25 June 2021 18:02 (two years ago) link
Collin Sexton is 22 and has career averages of 20/3/3 on 46/39/83. That’s a seriously talented scorer. Teams will want to figure out how to make it work.
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 25 June 2021 18:03 (two years ago) link
plus theres the prospect of improvement from just not being on the cavs
― lag∞n, Friday, 25 June 2021 18:08 (two years ago) link
i think it just depends on the price point and expectations. if he's giving you a decently efficient 20 ppg w/ no other production on the floor then that's a pretty good sixth man. but that can't be the center piece of your offense or franchise -- i assume he sees himself as the latter and will be looking for donovan mitchell and de'aaron fox's contract and not jordan clarkson's
― J0rdan S., Friday, 25 June 2021 18:11 (two years ago) link
call it whatever you want, they don’t want to pay the guy.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 25 June 2021 18:11 (two years ago) link
if you look at 538 raptor offense only the names you see around him among guards are kendrick nunn, RJ barrett, caris lavert, dillon brooks. if you look at offensive win shares you see delon wright, devonte graham, fred van vleet, cameron payne. all of these guys are positive players but they're paid at a certain price point. there's prob a lot of teams that would be interested in sexton at 4 years and $65 million, but 5 years and $175 million is a diff story
― J0rdan S., Friday, 25 June 2021 18:23 (two years ago) link
yeah trying to sign a sixth man who thinks hes an allstar is dicey
― lag∞n, Friday, 25 June 2021 18:25 (two years ago) link
I would be happy with 4/80 for him
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 25 June 2021 19:58 (two years ago) link
the cavs prob would be too. i bet they'll end up giving him $125m+ once they aren't able to trade him
― J0rdan S., Friday, 25 June 2021 20:33 (two years ago) link
I’d pay more if I was getting him for a late first
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 25 June 2021 21:00 (two years ago) link
He's RFA, rite? Cavs should let another team make an offer, then if it seems reasonable, match it. If it's a max offer, dump him on them.
― What's It All About, Althea? (Aimless), Friday, 25 June 2021 22:33 (two years ago) link
Charania says that the Blazers are “locked in” and looking to complete a deal with Billups.
boo
― Clay, Saturday, 26 June 2021 03:55 (two years ago) link
Billups might be great idk
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 26 June 2021 04:35 (two years ago) link