yikes.
lots of dame is leaving rumors today and nurk out there tryin got shoot them all down.
― pure rim rest (Spottie), Friday, 16 July 2021 16:35 (two years ago) link
oh hes outta there, portland needs to blow it all up
― class project pat (m bison), Friday, 16 July 2021 16:36 (two years ago) link
if portland actually has to trade dame i’m not sure i could come up with an example of a deeper self inflicted wound. i would be dumbfounded
― J0rdan S., Friday, 16 July 2021 17:01 (two years ago) link
cracks really starting to show with the weird sister of the weird deceased owner who is planning to sell the team.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 16 July 2021 17:34 (two years ago) link
all these sources seem bad
Damian Lillard would like to be traded to the Philadelphia 76ers or New York Knicks, sources tell me.— Quinton Mayo (@RealQuintonMayo) July 16, 2021
― pure rim rest (Spottie), Friday, 16 July 2021 18:10 (two years ago) link
76ers with dame instead of ben seems like a great fit
― pure rim rest (Spottie), Friday, 16 July 2021 18:11 (two years ago) link
i agree it's all randoms
i also don't understand why the blazers would appease his destination requests if he's blowing town w/ 4 years left on his deal or w/e
― J0rdan S., Friday, 16 July 2021 18:12 (two years ago) link
yah theyll take the best deal possible. does he have a no trade clause, tho?
― pure rim rest (Spottie), Friday, 16 July 2021 18:25 (two years ago) link
getting so many panicked text messages today from the casuals and I’m like chill out, idk if going from a ceiling of 5th in the west to being bad for a decade is that big a deal, get into hockey or something
― Clay, Friday, 16 July 2021 19:48 (two years ago) link
dame always gives you a reason to watchyou take it for granted until that's gone
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 July 2021 19:51 (two years ago) link
since this fiasco of an off-season began (which has been, like, worst possible decision followed by worst possible decisions) my pov has been trade dame. they’re going nowhere, he’s 31, get value at the peak. I hope he requests a trade! but the franchise is doomed until olshey and the Jody Allen management team are all gone. There’s no vision, it’s all short-term ass-saving and nepotism. burn it down time.
― Clay, Friday, 16 July 2021 19:56 (two years ago) link
dame is too special of a player i would never not want him on my team
― J0rdan S., Friday, 16 July 2021 20:10 (two years ago) link
yah
― pure rim rest (Spottie), Friday, 16 July 2021 20:16 (two years ago) link
—-if you love someone let them go—-
― Clay, Friday, 16 July 2021 20:23 (two years ago) link
I'd trade him but then again I always want to trade everyone
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 16 July 2021 21:01 (two years ago) link
dame in new york would be a sign of the apocalypse but i would certainly welcome it
― Yours in Sorrow, A Schoolboy: (forksclovetofu), Friday, 16 July 2021 21:04 (two years ago) link
Damian Lillard: "I don't disagree that maybe Chauncey can change our team and make us a better team. But I think if you look at our team as it is, I don't see how you say 'this is a championship team, we just need a new coach.'"— Sean Highkin (@highkin) July 16, 2021
― J0rdan S., Friday, 16 July 2021 21:17 (two years ago) link
― pure rim rest (Spottie), Friday, 16 July 2021 21:22 (two years ago) link
"The drama isn't coming from me," Dame said.— Marc J. Spears (@MarcJSpears) July 16, 2021
i too, quite famously, hate drama
― Clay, Friday, 16 July 2021 21:49 (two years ago) link
Washington’s hiring of Wes Unseld Jr. will fill the last of the NBA’s seven coaching openings. Six went to Black coaches. Boston: Ime UdokaDallas: Jason KiddIndiana: Rick CarlisleNew Orleans: Willie GreenOrlando: Jamahl Mosley Portland: Chauncey Billups Washington: Unseld— Marc Stein (@TheSteinLine) July 16, 2021
― pure rim rest (Spottie), Friday, 16 July 2021 22:04 (two years ago) link
tried to think of the funniest dame trade and landed on this one
https://imgur.com/a/allu7xj
― bart harley-jarvis cocker (voodoo chili), Friday, 16 July 2021 22:07 (two years ago) link
embed didn't seem to work: https://imgur.com/a/allu7xj
https://i.imgur.com/e4Y75cH.png
here ya go
― Clay, Friday, 16 July 2021 22:08 (two years ago) link
bless
― bart harley-jarvis cocker (voodoo chili), Friday, 16 July 2021 22:22 (two years ago) link
If lillard is adamant that it has to be a contender then it’s really difficult to do this
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 16 July 2021 22:46 (two years ago) link
philly for simmons+maxey+picks is probably the best package
― class project pat (m bison), Friday, 16 July 2021 22:48 (two years ago) link
my gut tells me he'll stick it out one more miserable year and then push for a trade next summer
― Clay, Friday, 16 July 2021 22:49 (two years ago) link
I’m so sick of those situations. Just get it over with
― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 16 July 2021 23:19 (two years ago) link
That’s what she said
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 17 July 2021 00:07 (two years ago) link
the thing with simmons to portland is that it probably leaves them as perennial play in contender sort of team and there’s a strong argument at that point to just go the picks route and fully rebuild in earnest instead of going the middle way. how are the blazers building a contender around simmons at any point if they can’t sign major FAs and won’t have high lottery level draft assets… i think nate duncan has made this point on his podcast. i wouldn’t hate the trade for portland — it would be the home run of home runs for philly — but i do think there’s a strong argument for just being bad bad if you get rid of dame. because if you’re happy with being a first round and out kinda team then just keep dame. i also don’t think maxey is all that personally he seems like a third guy are to me and not particularly a great one, if i’m trading dame he’s close to a throw in to me in terms of value
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 17 July 2021 01:10 (two years ago) link
simmons to portland only makes sense as an experiment playing with dame in a trade for cj+. agree that rebuilding around simmons is just a doom cul-de-sac
― Clay, Saturday, 17 July 2021 01:13 (two years ago) link
as has been pointed out before, there's just not a lot of contenders left with serious draft assets anymore, market is desaturated
― Clay, Saturday, 17 July 2021 01:14 (two years ago) link
if dame’s position is basically “this front office is run by fools, get me out of here” then i don’t care if he goes to a contender or sacramento if i’m them. what’s the point of magnanimity if you’ve already pissed him off so badly that he wants out? right now it seems like he’s trying to imply “i’m not asking out but the right thing to do would be to trade me to a better team” which puts some onus on the blazer FO to do right by him but i still wouldn’t buy that if i was them
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 17 July 2021 01:14 (two years ago) link
teams may be less inclined to make a huge trade for him if he doesnt want to play there
― lag∞n, Saturday, 17 July 2021 01:18 (two years ago) link
these sort of contracts should have transfer fees or something
― micah, Saturday, 17 July 2021 01:19 (two years ago) link
i wonder when okc will start buying
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Saturday, 17 July 2021 01:25 (two years ago) link
i 100% agree with nate d. that trading for simmons is something of a dead end for portland but at the same time olshey's objective is going to be either keeping this job or setting himself up for another job (though i'd be *very* disappointed if he got another GM job after this) so staying respectable and getting a "star" like simmons may work for him.
i wonder if dame has actually figured out what his next move is....i think the assumption some are making that lifelong west coast guy dame would be jazzed about moving east to play in new york or philadelphia or wherever is at least worth interrogating.
if he really does decide he wants to leave now it's going to be the hardest attempt yet for a superstar to leverage a team. the blazers already did him a solid with that massive extension. i'm not sure why exactly they would prioritize moving him to a preferred destination although if they keep getting bad press for being an inept organization under jody allen's watch that would be one reason.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 17 July 2021 01:50 (two years ago) link
― pure rim rest (Spottie), Friday, July 16, 2021 2:11 PM (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
I would trade so many firsts to make this happen.
What's the better play?
― Carlos Santana & Mahavishnu Rob Thomas (PBKR), Saturday, 17 July 2021 01:52 (two years ago) link
yeah i don't know. it's hard to figure out when a guy whose entire thing has been loyalty to team and doing it on his own is no longer putting those things first.
but if you're calling philly you're also going to be calling boston and miami just off the top of my head.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 17 July 2021 02:00 (two years ago) link
I get it, I just don't see Boston or Miami ready to get rid of a piece/name that at least justifies the trade the way Philly is with Simmons. Plus, Dame's age/contract matches well with the number of miles potentially left on Embiid's body (i.e. 4 years at best).
I mean if Boston can make the trade without giving up Jaylen Brown then more power to them, but if they trade him that doesn't move the needle nearly as much.
― Carlos Santana & Mahavishnu Rob Thomas (PBKR), Saturday, 17 July 2021 02:09 (two years ago) link
you will find no bigger jaylen brown fan than me but if brown for lillard were an option you'd do more than think about it, you'd think long and hard about it because lillard is that good and would be a really nice fit with the rest of their roster.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 17 July 2021 02:21 (two years ago) link
I guess if Boston decided they wanted to move Brown, he would be more enticing than Simmons. I don't think Boston is there yet, whereas Philly is all, "where do you want your brand new Ben Simmons delivered?"
― Carlos Santana & Mahavishnu Rob Thomas (PBKR), Saturday, 17 July 2021 02:31 (two years ago) link
If the blazers trade lillard for Simmons they will draft high for a while
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 17 July 2021 02:36 (two years ago) link
yeah, thats not a play-in roster at all, that's missing the playoffs for a minute until they get simmons to figure out what he does
― class project pat (m bison), Saturday, 17 July 2021 02:40 (two years ago) link
ive assumed brown was off limits but if he's not it kinda makes sense for both teams. altho what else does boston have bc that team feels not deep.
― class project pat (m bison), Saturday, 17 July 2021 02:42 (two years ago) link
celtics def do not want to trade brown but yeah if a player as good as dame became available they would just have to think about it
― lag∞n, Saturday, 17 July 2021 02:45 (two years ago) link
this isn't a "we want to trade brown" thing, this is a "we can get damian lillard???" thing. and i think the odds of it are miniscule but again, if you could, you would have to think L&A about it
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 17 July 2021 02:47 (two years ago) link
sorry, L&H
if I were Boston I'd probably make that trade. the question is what does Portland want exactly? they're sort of in NBA purgatory right now
― frogbs, Saturday, 17 July 2021 02:57 (two years ago) link
the thing about trading brown for dame is because of his age its a very all in now trade where youd need to put together a championship level roster basically immediately, where if you keep brown and tatum together you have more time to build around them, on the other hand in todays crazy nba really all the time you have is the length of your current contracts and often tbh not even that
― lag∞n, Saturday, 17 July 2021 03:05 (two years ago) link