I think this is just a contract dump for the Wolves. Bev is in the last year of his contract whereas Juancho and Culver have multiple years left
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 August 2021 16:51 (two years ago) link
Greg Brown III throws down a between-the-legs dunk 😳pic.twitter.com/TMyTBlslgh— ClutchPoints (@ClutchPointsApp) August 17, 2021
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 August 2021 22:12 (two years ago) link
I love this guy. Just a great draft for the rockets imo, all 4 guys look very goodhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qle2CE8ZKVc
― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 14:16 (two years ago) link
garuba def looked like a player in the olympics
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 August 2021 14:39 (two years ago) link
really disgusted with how well the rockets did in this draft, i need someone in texas to be the incompetent front office besides the spurs. i guess u cd argue mavs but luka will cover so many of their flaws.
― class project pat (m bison), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 23:28 (two years ago) link
lets not overreact to some summer league games the rockets can still fuck this up
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 23:29 (two years ago) link
hope springs eternal
― class project pat (m bison), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 23:52 (two years ago) link
rox probably still don't want to be good from an institutional standpoint so they might create a solid loser-culture that persists for a decade, hard to tell from this far out but i think they can stick the landing (of being shitty)
― Clay, Thursday, 19 August 2021 00:17 (two years ago) link
i'm still a bit suspicious of them trading two future firsts for a non lottery pick but i know everyone loved sengun and he looked good in summer league so maybe they nailed that one. there are several all star level euro big men who fell out of the lottery currently in the league
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 19 August 2021 00:24 (two years ago) link
also it's possible jalen green ends up as the 4th or 5th best player of the top 5 picks. i heard tjarks make a good argument (before the draft) about the level that green has to reach as a score only 2 guard to match the value of guys like cade, mobley, suggs or even barnes -- if those guys hit -- who have more well rounded games in terms of contributing across the box score and on defense
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 19 August 2021 00:27 (two years ago) link
that's a good and interesting point by tjarks (no surprise). i do feel a little better about green than i typically would for someone with his profile for a couple reasons--first being i can't remember another guy where so many draft people were saying with conviction that he was a lock to score at a high level, like scoring title level in the pros. he's also not giving anything away with his size so there's a chance that his defense is at least ok, and it also seems like his work ethic and potential skill development are such that "score only" would be somewhat of a disappointing outcome.
but this is a talented class and some of these other guys could certainly jump him.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 19 August 2021 01:11 (two years ago) link
yeah. i think tjarks made a good point, like if he's james harden then nothing else really matters. but if he's zach lavine that's still a good player but potentially pretty flawed. or if he's bradley beal, who may have led the league in scoring... not sure i would say brad is pretty flawed, but also we haven't seen him play for a winning team more or less ever. there isn't a huge amount of space between those levels, but also there is. harden's ability to get to the line, shoot the step back, and pass the ball is pretty insane so that might be an unfair bar
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 19 August 2021 01:18 (two years ago) link
and it matters who you put around a guy with the lavine/beal skillset, like neither of those guys has been in a close to ideal situation. but taking the guy who can average 27/28 and trying to figure out the rest is reasonable.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 19 August 2021 01:26 (two years ago) link
harden--beal--lavine are on all on average prob positive outcomes for a #2 pick, which isnt to say that someone picked after green wont be better
― lag∞n, Thursday, 19 August 2021 01:26 (two years ago) link
also kind of nitpicking here but i dont think you can put harden in the score only bucket, he cld prob lead the league in assists if he felt like it, and is a good rebounder, obvs not a great defender tho
― lag∞n, Thursday, 19 August 2021 01:28 (two years ago) link
and beal has been on a number of winning wizards teams fwiw, not great teams granted but i dont think thats on him, tho his recent ascension to top level scorer post dates those teams, i would certainly be interested in seeing what he could do on say the boston celtics
― lag∞n, Thursday, 19 August 2021 01:33 (two years ago) link
its funny beal always seemed like a methodical scorer who would maybe top out in the low 20s ppg, then the last few years he morphed into an unstoppable natural bucket getter, he plays with a feel for the game that he didnt seem to have earlier in his career, weird
― lag∞n, Thursday, 19 August 2021 01:40 (two years ago) link
it's definitely an interesting path and i would love to dig into his usage and shot location stuff someday. it also makes it kind of hard to say how good he is at this point and in what context....like going from nice second option on a decent team to cooking the league on a bad team to some other situation where he would presumably not be the #1 option or at least be sharing that again.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 19 August 2021 01:46 (two years ago) link
every time ive watched him play during his current hulk phase hes seemed very legit, he can defend and run the offense some too, hes good imo, prob pretty underrated at this point
― lag∞n, Thursday, 19 August 2021 01:57 (two years ago) link
feel like you could play him at the 1 where he has good size pretty easily especially if you had some other creators like say the boston celtics do
― lag∞n, Thursday, 19 August 2021 01:59 (two years ago) link
he's doubled his free throw rate over the lsat four years from 4 FTA per game to 8 FTA. he was also a 90% shooter from the line this year after being in the low 80s as recently as two years ago. i think that has a lot to do w/ it, his overall shooting numbers aren't much better tho obv the volume has increased
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 19 August 2021 02:03 (two years ago) link
reflecting upon it its fucked up that the raptors drafted scottie barnes forcing the magic to take jalen suggs, suggs deserves to be with a good org like the raps and barnes is the prototypical magic pick a huge athletic freak who doesnt really know how to play basketball, signals got crossed or something they should make a trade
― lag∞n, Thursday, 19 August 2021 14:26 (two years ago) link
SUGGS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glXJ6pRZYLM
― lag∞n, Thursday, 19 August 2021 14:30 (two years ago) link
as sam vecenie noted today suggs was playing actual nba basketball at summer league
― lag∞n, Thursday, 19 August 2021 14:31 (two years ago) link
time lord 4/54 extension
― pure rim rest (Spottie), Friday, 20 August 2021 17:24 (two years ago) link
i want that kid to succeed very badly
― think “Gypsy-Pixie” and misspelled. (We are a white family.) (forksclovetofu), Friday, 20 August 2021 17:27 (two years ago) link
classic use of ambiguity there, forks
― it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Friday, 20 August 2021 18:08 (two years ago) link
go out and earn it, big guy
― call all destroyer, Friday, 20 August 2021 18:09 (two years ago) link
clarifying: i very badly want that kid to succeed. i love rob!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdKsINvNfPE
― think “Gypsy-Pixie” and misspelled. (We are a white family.) (forksclovetofu), Friday, 20 August 2021 19:04 (two years ago) link
that’s a big investment in time lord but good for him
― J0rdan S., Friday, 20 August 2021 19:14 (two years ago) link
i think he can be good but yeah you'd love to see one more year before committing to him as your guy
― ciderpress, Friday, 20 August 2021 19:42 (two years ago) link
there is definitely some protection here against him blowing up and commanding a lot more. i guess if jarrett allen can get 20 million bucks a healthy year of rob could get that. but i don't see much disaster potential unless he has a really significant injury.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 20 August 2021 20:04 (two years ago) link
yeah $11m a year is barely over the mid level, pretty reasonable really
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 August 2021 22:19 (two years ago) link
or 13 w/e
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 August 2021 22:20 (two years ago) link
big thing for him is just staying healthy, hes already a game changer
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 August 2021 22:21 (two years ago) link
thats patrick beverly money!!1
― micah, Friday, 20 August 2021 23:43 (two years ago) link
should also be noted that smart + robs salaries are pretty much an exact match for brad beals
― lag∞n, Saturday, 21 August 2021 00:26 (two years ago) link
anybody watch this?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDDMq2E50Ss
― think “Gypsy-Pixie” and misspelled. (We are a white family.) (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 22 August 2021 19:17 (two years ago) link
Yah. Pretty good. Thought they covered a lot of it in the Ron artest documentary.
― pure rim rest (Spottie), Sunday, 22 August 2021 20:26 (two years ago) link
Breaking on @SportsAgentBlog: Nerlens Noel has sued NBA agent Rich Paul, claiming Paul is responsible for $58 million in lost earnings.https://t.co/mW5a9SdxQI— Darren Heitner (@DarrenHeitner) August 24, 2021
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 August 2021 21:38 (two years ago) link
oops
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 August 2021 21:39 (two years ago) link
Following the party, Noel parted ways with Walters and signed a Standard Player Agent Contract (SPAC) with Paul.
It seems like he has a case.
― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 25 August 2021 00:32 (two years ago) link
nerlens noel doing this while being signed to the CAA knicks doesn’t feel like a coincidence to me
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 25 August 2021 00:40 (two years ago) link
otm
― pure rim rest (Spottie), Wednesday, 25 August 2021 00:44 (two years ago) link
great point jordan
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 25 August 2021 01:06 (two years ago) link
is there someone on the internet who's mapped out the nba landscape of agents and agencies? i recognize some names, but i really have no idea who represents whom, who has the most clients, highest value of contracts, etc.
― circles, Wednesday, 25 August 2021 01:32 (two years ago) link
nate duncan and danny leroux did an agent grading pod within the past couple years where they tried to take the major guys, find all their clients, and go through some of their recent deals. i remember nate saying that he couldn't find a comprehensive list and that he had to cobble a lot of it together from reading old news stories. maybe somebody has put something together since then but if so it hasn't crossed my radar.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 25 August 2021 01:42 (two years ago) link
i am checking with the crew in the dunc'd on discord, will let you know if there is anything out there.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 25 August 2021 01:45 (two years ago) link
and like clockwork they come through: https://hoopshype.com/reps/
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 25 August 2021 01:51 (two years ago) link