I think the Sixers can at least get an 6-8 seed without Simmons, so might as well let him sit a little if the offers aren't good. Good being good (like what was discussed just upthread), not like Lillard.
xp wtf
― Taliban! (PBKR), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 19:17 (two years ago) link
hoping this all ends like the Aaron Rodgers drama and he just stays in Philly and everyone acts like nothing happens Simmons spends the whole season acting weird and cryptically passive aggressive like Rodgers
― frogbs, Wednesday, September 22, 2021 1:04 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 19:18 (two years ago) link
these wolves I tell ya what
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 19:20 (two years ago) link
Glen Taylor wants Simmons?
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 19:20 (two years ago) link
timberwolves, normal stuff as per usual
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 September 2021 19:23 (two years ago) link
Just looked through Rosas' history of transactions. His first move was trading Cam Johnson and Saric for Culver; his last move was trading Culver and Juancho for Pat Bev.
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 22 September 2021 19:23 (two years ago) link
i mean there had been ZERO smoke on this locally, not even the slightest rumor
not really defending rosas's record so far but i'm just shocked it's now at this moment
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 19:24 (two years ago) link
he did not impress the new ownership group
A lot of the Timberwolves/Simmons stuff I had heard had stemmed from Gersson feeling pressure to make a big splash to impress new the new ownership group. Now he's gone. Will be interesting to see how this impacts the Simmons situation.— Sean Highkin (@highkin) September 22, 2021
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 September 2021 19:26 (two years ago) link
wtf…— Karl-Anthony Towns (@KarlTowns) September 22, 2021
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 September 2021 19:27 (two years ago) link
...lol
In wake of Gersson Rosas' departure, word has circulated among league sources since Summer League that incoming Minnesota Timberwolves owners Marc Lore and Alex Rodriguez have communicated they are fond of Sixers general manager Elton Brand. A name to keep an eye on here.— Jake Fischer (@JakeLFischer) September 22, 2021
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 September 2021 19:29 (two years ago) link
let’s gooooo
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 22 September 2021 19:34 (two years ago) link
lmaoooooooo
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 22 September 2021 19:38 (two years ago) link
Wollllllllves!
― a talented ‘Rebel’ with Balls (Spottie), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 19:50 (two years ago) link
the more i think about it i agree that simmons won't play for the sixers again and i think his position is entirely justified. at no point have the sixers, as far as we know, said that they want to keep him. their position is that he should return to the team and play so that he will improve his trade value and be sent off whenever the sixers decide they can get the value they're seeking for him. so his response being "i'm never stepping foot in the building again, trade me now" is completely rational to me, on like a personal dignity level. why should he bust his ass in training camp and on the court for the benefit of trade value? when you add in the general toxicity of how their season ended and the environment w/ philly fans i do think he's just not gonna show up. he has $145 million guaranteed or whatever coming to him, he can probably eat the fines for a month or however long it ends up being
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 22 September 2021 20:06 (two years ago) link
i think the irrational actor in this scenario is the philly front office which seems to be operating under the delusion that simmons can improve his trade value by playing well in october and november
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 22 September 2021 20:08 (two years ago) link
yeah otm
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 September 2021 20:09 (two years ago) link
yah the more trade value he has the worse his future team/teammates and assets on that team will be.
― a talented ‘Rebel’ with Balls (Spottie), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 20:09 (two years ago) link
doc is currently trending for doing the "hey we'd love him to stay but what can we do" bit on espn
― When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 20:12 (two years ago) link
Here's how I roll:
enjoyment of watching Philly fans clown Simmons >= enjoyment watching Simmons play for Philly = enjoyment watching whatever pieces they get for Simmons
― Taliban! (PBKR), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 20:18 (two years ago) link
jon k was on our local sports talk:
- apparently there has been a lot of talk and dissatisfaction internally with rosas for a while, building this summer
- there was some sort of "event" that was a straw that broke the camel's back type of scenario
- acting president of basketball operations is going to be sachan gupta, our analytics guy. interestingly, he was asked to interview for a few positions in the league this offseason and was blocked from doing so by the team so who knows maybe that was looking forward to this
- it's a shitshow
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 20:32 (two years ago) link
incoming Minnesota Timberwolves owners Marc Lore and Alex Rodriguez have communicated they are fond of Sixers general manager Elton Brand.
This is incredible. Brand is the basketball genius who signed Horford to that deal to play the 4, moved Harris to the 3 and signed him to a max deal, and chose not to re-sign Butler cause he wasn't sure he was a team guy.
i.e. good luck ums.
― Taliban! (PBKR), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 21:20 (two years ago) link
Simmons isn’t a center
― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 22 September 2021 21:21 (two years ago) link
He can’t post up and he’s defensively versatile. Why in the world do people think that’s a center.
Power forward, sure.
― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 22 September 2021 21:22 (two years ago) link
that's a semantic distinction
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 22 September 2021 21:24 (two years ago) link
Why in the world do people think that’s a center.
― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, September 22, 2021 2:21 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink
draymond made everyone think anyone can be draymond
― a talented ‘Rebel’ with Balls (Spottie), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 21:24 (two years ago) link
i think him and kat would be an ideal pairing
― a talented ‘Rebel’ with Balls (Spottie), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 21:25 (two years ago) link
Yeah it’s a semantic distinction, which you guys are really attached to. He’s not a center.
― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 22 September 2021 21:26 (two years ago) link
ok. so what's your point?
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 22 September 2021 21:30 (two years ago) link
if you're a power forward you're a center it's 2021 let's catch up
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 22 September 2021 21:32 (two years ago) link
Yeah no, that’s not true.
― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 22 September 2021 21:53 (two years ago) link
My point is that you keep calling him a center when he isn’t. Why you do that idk
― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 22 September 2021 21:54 (two years ago) link
ok but again -- what's your point
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 22 September 2021 21:57 (two years ago) link
like aside from picking a semantic argument do you actually have anything to say about basketball here or should we just wrap this one up
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 22 September 2021 21:58 (two years ago) link
did they ever get to the bottom of what happened to Simmons during the playoffs
― frogbs, Wednesday, 22 September 2021 21:58 (two years ago) link
― Taliban! (PBKR), Wednesday, September 22, 2021 4:20 PM (fifty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
At this point I'm just in it to see how weird it can get, that and The Lad
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 22:17 (two years ago) link
For me the nadir was the Al Jefferson years, he's a really boring player to be your best player
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 22:18 (two years ago) link
Keep the Timberwolves Weird
― Taliban! (PBKR), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 22:30 (two years ago) link
― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, September 22, 2021 5:21 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
hes tall cant shoot and can play defense, and im sure youve noticed posting up isnt quite as central to the nba as it once was
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 September 2021 22:45 (two years ago) link
― a talented ‘Rebel’ with Balls (Spottie), Wednesday, September 22, 2021 5:24 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
its just the best comp for his skills, and of course he is physically much more of a center than dray
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 September 2021 22:46 (two years ago) link
He can’t post up and he’s defensively versatile. Why in the world do people think that’s a center.― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, September 22, 2021 5:21 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglinkhes tall cant shoot and can play defense, and im sure youve noticed posting up isnt quite as central to the nba as it once was
― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 22 September 2021 22:51 (two years ago) link
yeah i mean you can shoot and play center but you cant not shoot and play shooting guard
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 September 2021 22:52 (two years ago) link
― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 22 September 2021 22:53 (two years ago) link
You’d think a celtics fan would know this!
― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 22 September 2021 22:54 (two years ago) link
― lag∞n, Wednesday, September 22, 2021 3:46 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
draymond has a 7'1" wingspan
― a talented ‘Rebel’ with Balls (Spottie), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 22:55 (two years ago) link
i didnt say they were exactly the same guy
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 September 2021 22:56 (two years ago) link
i mean you could play simmons at power forward but youd need to pair him with a center who can shoot, which would mean on offense he is essentially... playing center, which tbh might be the best arrangement but is trickier to pull off from a personnel standpoint, you could also just play him at center i think it would be fine and actually good, having an elite ballhandler/passer at center is a pretty sick advantage
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 September 2021 22:57 (two years ago) link
right i just disagree that ben is physically much more of a center than dray.
id be interested in seeing if ben can play small ball five for 15 minutes a game, to see how he holds up
― a talented ‘Rebel’ with Balls (Spottie), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 22:59 (two years ago) link
― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, September 22, 2021 6:54 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
marcus has to his credit turned himself into a passable shooter, but earlier in his career his bad shooting was a huge problem, he was coming off the bench despite being an all world defender and generally good player
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 22 September 2021 23:00 (two years ago) link