2021 nba offseason draft free agency etc

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well jonathan isaac might've...

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 29 September 2021 19:09 (two years ago) link

maybe being associated with t cruz will tip the scales for some of these dudes

gbx, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 19:33 (two years ago) link

Tuesday afternoon, LeBron James announced that he had in fact been vaccinated, but that he would not advocate that others do so. “We’re talking about individuals’ bodies,” he said. “We’re not talking about something that’s political or racism or police brutality and things of that nature.”

― symsymsym, Wednesday, September 29, 2021 11:21 AM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

funny the things we will and will not advocate for. maybe if moderna came through with a juicy sponsorship?

mens rea activist (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 19:50 (two years ago) link

Lebron wouldn’t want to take sides against Sinopharm

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 20:08 (two years ago) link

#yourbodyyourchoice from shithead ted, god what an awful human

brimstead, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 20:12 (two years ago) link

Lebron wouldn’t want to take sides against Sinopharm

― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, September 29, 2021 4:08 PM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

republicans buy sneakers too

mens rea activist (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 20:15 (two years ago) link

ESPN: Los Angeles Lakers’ Russell Westbrook vows to push Anthony Davis ‘every single night’

This is gonna be fun (tm)

brimstead, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 22:58 (two years ago) link

down the stairs? into a briar patch? on a swing? by Sapphire?

When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 23:12 (two years ago) link

iirc if you push Anthony Davis he will get a contusion xp

Clay, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 23:13 (two years ago) link

yeah seems like a bad idea

lag∞n, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 23:39 (two years ago) link

Aaron Gordon seems really happy to be in denver to a degree that makes me think the whole thing makes sense

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 30 September 2021 01:20 (two years ago) link

haha. they’re paying him $92 million!

J0rdan S., Thursday, 30 September 2021 02:58 (two years ago) link

LeBron James says he's now vaccinated. As for urging others to get vaccinated, he says "That's not my job."

"We're talkin' about individuals' bodies. We're not talkin' about something that's political, or racism, or police brutality ..." pic.twitter.com/p7wv4mkf5o

— The Recount (@therecount) September 28, 2021

just so so good

mens rea activist (k3vin k.), Thursday, 30 September 2021 06:19 (two years ago) link

Embiid on Ben, partial: "Our teams have always been built around his needs. So it's just kind of surprising to see. Even going back to, the reason we signed Al, we got rid of Jimmy, which I still think was a mistake, just to make sure he needed the ball in his hands."

— Kyle Neubeck (@KyleNeubeck) September 30, 2021



he’s really never gonna put on a sixers jersey again

J0rdan S., Thursday, 30 September 2021 18:27 (two years ago) link

love it

um, i mean... im sure weve all seen the videos, so... that will help (Spottie), Thursday, 30 September 2021 20:50 (two years ago) link

Might as well go all in on throwing him under the bus

um, i mean... im sure weve all seen the videos, so... that will help (Spottie), Thursday, 30 September 2021 20:50 (two years ago) link

If I'm not going to get fans booing him out of town, this will do.

Taliban! (PBKR), Thursday, 30 September 2021 22:17 (two years ago) link

never recall hearing anything about jimmy being let go because of ben, joel making stuff up cause hes mad

lag∞n, Friday, 1 October 2021 01:21 (two years ago) link

yeah i'm a little bit confused by the "joel embiid, what a straight shooter" commentary i'm seeing everywhere

call all destroyer, Friday, 1 October 2021 01:24 (two years ago) link

i mean i can understand why sportswriters might feel compelled to egg him on lol it is tremendous content

lag∞n, Friday, 1 October 2021 01:26 (two years ago) link

yeah even from normal educated fans though, it's like he's now this warrior who just cares about winning or something.

call all destroyer, Friday, 1 October 2021 01:29 (two years ago) link

There are definitely conflicting stories, but Jimmy revealed he had tension from Simmons in the 2019 playoffs because Brown started running the offense more through Jimmy.

Hannibal Lecture (PBKR), Friday, 1 October 2021 01:29 (two years ago) link

yeah even from normal educated fans though, it's like he's now this warrior who just cares about winning or something.

― call all destroyer, Thursday, September 30, 2021 9:29 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

“I don’t get on the scale. It’s not good for my mental health.”

- Joel Embiid. 😂

(via @LaurenMRosen) pic.twitter.com/3Q2jCx0qaX

— Hoop Central (@TheHoopCentral) September 30, 2021

lag∞n, Friday, 1 October 2021 01:31 (two years ago) link

xp the way i remember that going down is not that they "got rid of jimmy" which is embiid's quote, it's more that jimmy decided to leave because he had some issues with the sixers but more importantly he could go to miami and be the guy

call all destroyer, Friday, 1 October 2021 01:31 (two years ago) link

lol i saw that quote and tons of people being like "joel gets me!!!"

call all destroyer, Friday, 1 October 2021 01:31 (two years ago) link

deep down were all overweight professional athletes

lag∞n, Friday, 1 October 2021 01:33 (two years ago) link

fat is potential in disguise as they say

call all destroyer, Friday, 1 October 2021 01:33 (two years ago) link

Joel is sort of the perfect athlete for Philly.

Hannibal Lecture (PBKR), Friday, 1 October 2021 01:38 (two years ago) link

i feel like my understanding was that jimmy left the sixers for the same reason he left chicago & minny which is bcuz they wouldn’t give him the full max. if that was because of simmons idk, it seems to me like they had the same reservations as those other teams about giving jimmy that kind of money. and so jimmy went and found a team who would give him that level of commitment. coincidentally or not each of those three teams have spent the years after jimmy in various states of turmoil

J0rdan S., Friday, 1 October 2021 04:10 (two years ago) link

it seems pretty unlikely to me that embiid would just say that unless there were some substantive truth to it. what would his reason be otherwise?

mens rea activist (k3vin k.), Friday, 1 October 2021 14:26 (two years ago) link

hes a big mad baby idk

lag∞n, Friday, 1 October 2021 14:27 (two years ago) link

reminder that his twitter name is still joel “troel” embiid

call all destroyer, Friday, 1 October 2021 14:48 (two years ago) link

i believe joel too

it's not mutually exclusive, reluctance to give jimmy the max surely tied to what needs they felt they had on the roster. thinking you've got a blue chip lead ball handler already on your team leaves you pretty reluctant to max out another. can easily imagine some front office folk saying as much casually to joel

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 1 October 2021 15:41 (two years ago) link

like it doesn't mean simmons was making demands, the responsibility lies just as much with the team for betting big that he would have become a better offensive player by now. but he didn't so those decisions don't look good

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 1 October 2021 15:42 (two years ago) link

yeah if philly was thinking that way then theyre dumb having more than one guy who can dribble is considered a good thing

lag∞n, Friday, 1 October 2021 15:45 (two years ago) link

i mean obvs they are dumb as demonstrated through the process and beyond so i guess i could see them being all we have our dribbling guy already

lag∞n, Friday, 1 October 2021 15:47 (two years ago) link

for sure, it is a key skill in the national basketball league

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 1 October 2021 15:48 (two years ago) link

pretty funny that by the end of the season jimmy went to miami ben was spending a bunch of time hanging around the baseline not really doing anything

lag∞n, Friday, 1 October 2021 15:49 (two years ago) link

also funny that simmons was clear about the roster construction issue which is that he doesnt fit well with embiid which is true and has been obvious all along and embiid responded with bitchy gossip

lag∞n, Friday, 1 October 2021 15:51 (two years ago) link

wouldve been better for everyone if simmons made the trade demand two years ago, but i guess thats not how these things work

lag∞n, Friday, 1 October 2021 15:52 (two years ago) link

Things that participants have stated that I believe are true:

1. Joel was a big fan of Jimmy on and off the court in the short time together and wanted him to stay. They have remained friends.

2. Late in the 2019 season and the playoffs, Brown started running the offense more through Jimmy. Coincidently, the Sixers started playing better.

3. Jimmy has stated that Simmons wasn't too happy about #2. He also stated that he wouldn't have been happy if he were Simmons.

4. Sixers discussed a max contract with Jimmy, but were hesitant based on whether they could "control" him, his fit with Brown, and his fit with Simmons. Jimmy says Jimmy doesn't need to be controlled. Jimmy's going to take his talents to South Beach. Sixers maxed Harris and brought in Horford (oops).

I think Joel is probably over-simplifying some pretty complex reasons why the Sixers didn't bring back Jimmy, but some of those complex reasons were absolutely rooted in whether to piss off one of their two young stars by bringing in a guy who would take the ball out of his hand to some extent.

Hannibal Lecture (PBKR), Friday, 1 October 2021 15:55 (two years ago) link

that was exactly the moment they should have signed jimmy traded simmons and fired brown, but obvs thats asking a lot

lag∞n, Friday, 1 October 2021 15:58 (two years ago) link

good chance they wouldve won a chip if they had tho

lag∞n, Friday, 1 October 2021 15:59 (two years ago) link

good summary pbkr. hindsight is 20/20 but lagoon xp otm

it's not coincidental that this is the result of the process. the strategy of amass high picks and consistently take best player available is bound to lead to poor fits and head cases. you live with the fiascos that were fultz and jahlil okafor as the cost of doing business for hitting on embiid. but they cut their losses pretty quick on those. the poor fit with simmons and joel not so much. tbf though simmons is a pretty unique player

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 1 October 2021 16:00 (two years ago) link

yeah the process was exactly what you would do if you were tanking and also didnt understand basketball or people, its pretty funny that it became this whole thing when it was just a low quality tank job, another huge misunderstanding by hinkie was thinking that draft picks and players were comparable assets and he could just trade his way out of drafting four centers when really picks tend to me much more tradable than players which is something everyone else knows, ironically the one bad fit they could have very profitably traded their way out of simmons-embiid they didnt

lag∞n, Friday, 1 October 2021 16:06 (two years ago) link

hindsight is 20/20 but lagoon xp otm

― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, October 1, 2021 12:00 PM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

fwiw i did advocate for doing all those things at the time

lag∞n, Friday, 1 October 2021 16:07 (two years ago) link

get this man an nba team stat

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 1 October 2021 16:08 (two years ago) link

i know right im the new haralabob

lag∞n, Friday, 1 October 2021 16:09 (two years ago) link

Agree that lagoon has been otm re: Simmons for a while, but you could understand the organization not cutting bait.

I also feel like Simmons isn't catching enough fire here for being an incredible weirdo whose game has actually regressed.

Maybe the Sixers should have hired Kendall Jenner as GM - she knew when to trade Simmons.

Hannibal Lecture (PBKR), Friday, 1 October 2021 16:15 (two years ago) link


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