The question now might be how soon does he become the best player in the league.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, November 3, 2023 1:31 PM (two hours ago)
you have guys like jokic, tatum, luka who are still just into or haven't even entered their prime years so i think i'd peg it at like 3 years until victor is indisputably the best player in the league
i think the more interesting question is how much better will he be than the second best player of his wave of guys? like if you put luka, tatum, shai etc to the side -- they're all 24/25 -- and focus just on the 22/23 year olds and under you have guys like: paolo, ant edwards, cade, halliburton, chet, franz, barnes... it feels like victor could be 2x better than them even as most if not all of those guys will be all NBA players
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 November 2023 19:54 (seven months ago) link
if hes the best player in the league at 22 well boy howdy, not usually how it works but could happen
― lag∞n, Friday, 3 November 2023 20:03 (seven months ago) link
hard not to get ahead of ourselves here after witnessing last night... but yeah. please just stay healthy
― infinite wiggles (Spottie), Friday, 3 November 2023 20:06 (seven months ago) link
im sure hell have some injuries as his alien body adjusts to earth life, just hopefully nothing too serious
― lag∞n, Friday, 3 November 2023 20:09 (seven months ago) link
since we're getting ahead of ourselves in this thread after seeing some of those plays last night my reaction wasn't just "he could be the best player in the league in 3 years" but also "they may have to change the rules for this guy"
― frogbs, Friday, 3 November 2023 20:16 (seven months ago) link
will this guy even have to box out? he gumbied a pass last night with his arm bent like 90 degrees over the defenders head lol
― infinite wiggles (Spottie), Friday, 3 November 2023 20:18 (seven months ago) link
Need E-40 to say victor wembanyama one time— no bells (@nobellsblog) November 3, 2023
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 November 2023 20:35 (seven months ago) link
lmao
― lag∞n, Friday, 3 November 2023 20:37 (seven months ago) link
haha id be surprised if he wasnt working up a song right now
― infinite wiggles (Spottie), Friday, 3 November 2023 20:37 (seven months ago) link
Mr Wembanyama Mr Vic Wembanyama
― symsymsym, Saturday, 4 November 2023 01:20 (seven months ago) link
I've been singing "Wembanyama Mama" to myself since ums posted that.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Saturday, 4 November 2023 13:06 (seven months ago) link
Been singing his name to the tune of Mistadobalina myself
― infinite wiggles (Spottie), Saturday, 4 November 2023 18:47 (seven months ago) link
genuinely would be terrified if I saw this out in the wild. like my only thought would be "that better fucking be Wemby"
Happy HalloWemby!📺 Spurs/Suns, 10pm/et on TNT pic.twitter.com/ZCNU1f5oBh— NBA (@NBA) October 31, 2023
― frogbs, Wednesday, 8 November 2023 04:59 (seven months ago) link
He's apparently working on a skyhook, if he ever gets that down RIP NBA.
― Kira Nerys Witherspoon (Leee), Wednesday, 8 November 2023 18:46 (seven months ago) link
Sorry but kool Keith
Chilling with wembanyamaStroking llamas
― Heez, Wednesday, 8 November 2023 23:27 (seven months ago) link
hey his album earlier this year has a song about old Supersonics players so anything is possiblehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krorxO_fHEI
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 8 November 2023 23:35 (seven months ago) link
I love it when he raps about basketball. The Baldwin hills spacemen would be my fantasy basketball team name if I played
― Heez, Thursday, 9 November 2023 00:22 (seven months ago) link
def periodically new people or words appear that make me think i want to hear kool keith say that
― lag∞n, Thursday, 9 November 2023 00:24 (seven months ago) link
It's like he's doing this on an 8-foot rim:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiLbtU_GTSM
― Kira Nerys Witherspoon (Leee), Friday, 10 November 2023 23:55 (seven months ago) link
nerf rim
― lag∞n, Saturday, 11 November 2023 00:02 (seven months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgkxajrQArJ
― Rimbaud: First Blood (Leee), Monday, 20 November 2023 17:45 (six months ago) link
Let's try that again.
― Rimbaud: First Blood (Leee), Monday, 20 November 2023 17:46 (six months ago) link
is pop cooked?
― infinite wiggles (Spottie), Monday, 27 November 2023 05:58 (six months ago) link
i didn’t think so until this year
― oatly carmichael (m bison), Monday, 27 November 2023 11:48 (six months ago) link
like im really starting to wince watching them play, i get that they wanted to experiment to see how everyone fits with wemby, but i feel like the experiment has lost the plot when you lose 12 games in a row. sochan is never gonna be pre-playoff freakout ben simmons and i worry that pop will break him trying to make it happen. giving wemby no direction means he plays like a 19-year-old, no shit he's gonna try to do too much and get a bunch of turnovers. this team feels rudderless without competent point guard play and their defensive woes are compounded by the turnovers and missed shots. tre jones isnt a world-beater but he's a capable pg whose on-off numbers and netrtg with wemby are fuckin good. they should experiment with winning even at the expense of some theoretical all-switching all-the-time defensive lineup.
im not terribly worried in the long run bc its not like pop was given a loaded roster to begin with. there are several good pg prospects in this draft (i like collier and topic rn but who knows) and some servicable bigs that can upgrade charles bassey pretty quickly.
― oatly carmichael (m bison), Monday, 27 November 2023 12:33 (six months ago) link
the approach they’re taking may have worked more 10 or 15 years ago….the overall talent in the league means that there aren’t any easy games early in the season. so if you’re openly fucking around while everyone else is trying to win the results are going to hurt. i also wonder if, even for a player as unique as wemby, a more traditional development approach where you ask him to focus on a few fundamentals and gradually expand his responsibilities over time, just works better.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 27 November 2023 17:36 (six months ago) link
cant help but think theyre just tanking
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 November 2023 17:39 (six months ago) link
if you were just running jones-wemby pick and rolls all game you might win too much
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 November 2023 17:40 (six months ago) link
meanwhile letting wemby and sochan get some reps doing whatever prob has some value, its like everyone else is playing basketball and youre playing 21 lol
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 November 2023 17:43 (six months ago) link
idk Pop taking the mic to tell people not to boo Kawhi kinda made me feel like his heart isn't really in it anymore. its just a weird thing for a coach to do and I think maybe Pop just can't suppress his inner human anymore the way being a head coach requires you to do. but I dunno maybe they are just tanking.
― frogbs, Monday, 27 November 2023 18:20 (six months ago) link
i would tank if i were them, go back to the well one more time
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 November 2023 18:28 (six months ago) link
you can tank and be better is the thing
― infinite wiggles (Spottie), Monday, 27 November 2023 18:39 (six months ago) link
what why
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 November 2023 18:43 (six months ago) link
would they be winning that many more games if they were actually trying to play sound basketball? not many but probably a few, and this particular nba season has some fierce competition for being crappy, lotta crappy teams. not so easy to get those ping pong balls. otoh even once you pick up another couple pieces, how much are you setting wemby's timeline back playing like this now
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 27 November 2023 19:45 (six months ago) link
i dont think youre setting him back particularly, at this stage in career letting him try stuff might even be the best choice, and of course if its a tough tanking year then tanking harder is of great benefit, i dont know that its a tough tanking year but regardless yeah tanking harder will produce better results if youre tanking lol
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 November 2023 19:57 (six months ago) link
one problem with sucking this year is that it's supposed to a weak draft, top pick might not have any value
― symsymsym, Tuesday, 28 November 2023 02:38 (six months ago) link
fwiw:
The men’s college basketball season is upon us, which means it’s time to update my NBA mock draft. So far, we’ve already received quite a bit of information on college players, as well as a lot of tape on prospects playing overseas.
What does that intel say? That this class is as wide open for players to emerge into as any iteration I’ve come across since I began covering the NBA Draft over the last decade. While this mock draft is supposed to provide a snapshot of where league and team sources generally stand on the prospects at this exact moment, it’s hard to get a read on where scouts sit on this class and even how interested many of the key players are in participating in this draft at all. There are a significant number of polarizing players this season. That starts at the top, even if scouts believe this class could potentially offer some intriguing depth.
It’s worth laying out how questionable the top of this class is. While we are still in the early stages of identifying prospects with the potential to be the No. 1 overall pick in 2024, I do not currently have a player rated as a Tier One or Tier Two prospect.
I wouldn’t say I’m especially stingy with such grades. Over the last four drafts, I have listed the following players in either of those categories:
2020: LaMelo Ball, Anthony Edwards.2021: Cade Cunningham, Jalen Suggs, Evan Mobley, Jalen Green.2022: Chet Holmgren, Jabari Smith Jr., Paolo Banchero, Jaden Ivey.2023: Victor Wembanyama, Scoot Henderson, Brandon Miller, Cam Whitmore, Amen Thompson.That’s 15 players in four classes. Some of those players have hit, and some of them look like misses, so I’m far from perfect. No evaluator is. But 14 of those 15 players were taken in the top five, with only Whitmore falling to 20th last season due to myriad factors.
As of now, I have not yet seen a player in this class with the look of a typical top-three pick in an NBA Draft. I’m not sure I’ve seen anyone in this class who looks like an average top-five selection.
https://theathletic.com/5009208/2023/11/13/nba-mock-draft-2024-alexandre-sarr/
― symsymsym, Tuesday, 28 November 2023 02:39 (six months ago) link
i mean obvs youd like the draft to be "stronger" but this is the year that makes sense for them to tank, tankers cant be choosers
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 November 2023 02:43 (six months ago) link
spurs dont need to hit a homerun in this draft imo and there are plenty of pg's who would be at minimum solid starters to complement wemby. they have their own pick and toronto's if it stays out of the top 6 (and charlotte if they somehow make the playoffs). 2025 gets fun bc they own the hawks picks for 3 years and they get a bulls 1st rounder (probably, unless they go nuclear tanking for 3 years)
― oatly carmichael (m bison), Tuesday, 28 November 2023 03:15 (six months ago) link
the other thing i need to remember is that this team that won 22 games last year had some actual nba rotation players in jakob poeltl and josh richardson for most of the year, so take the leftovers of that team and add wemby and put sochan in the hardest position that he's never played and...12 game losing streak makes sense
― oatly carmichael (m bison), Tuesday, 28 November 2023 03:34 (six months ago) link
yeah it's just that finishing bottom 3 might not be much better draftwise than finishing bottom 10
― symsymsym, Tuesday, 28 November 2023 05:30 (six months ago) link
maybe finishing 15th will be the best lol
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 November 2023 12:52 (six months ago) link
?pic.twitter.com/CVrzswHcAm— Rob Perez (@WorldWideWob) January 5, 2024
― infinite wiggles (Spottie), Friday, 5 January 2024 01:41 (five months ago) link
my god Wemby pic.twitter.com/D4UwJKwuoQ— Rob Perez (@WorldWideWob) January 5, 2024
― infinite wiggles (Spottie), Friday, 5 January 2024 02:10 (five months ago) link
thats the stuff
― lag∞n, Friday, 5 January 2024 02:14 (five months ago) link
haha what the fuck
― Clay, Friday, 5 January 2024 02:15 (five months ago) link
i was CACKLING when i saw it, i couldnt believe he made that dunk
― polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Friday, 5 January 2024 02:24 (five months ago) link
Wow this game!
― infinite wiggles (Spottie), Friday, 5 January 2024 02:47 (five months ago) link
that block on giannis was completely absurd
― Clay, Friday, 5 January 2024 02:50 (five months ago) link
ah they got a perfect look
― lag∞n, Friday, 5 January 2024 02:51 (five months ago) link
A student at St. Mary’s Hall High snagged the ball after Wembanyama’s exuberant heave. A Spurs staffer was sent to retrieve it from the youth with a promise of a ticket to another game. That contest turned out to be that big win over the Nuggets. Aware of the ultimate fate of the ball he had tossed into the stands, Wembanyama autographed another ball to be presented to the St. Mary’s Hall student. On it, he wrote in all caps: SORRY YOU COULDN’T KEEP THE OTHER BALL. HOPE THIS WORKS TOO.
― Costas Mandylorian (Leee), Tuesday, 7 May 2024 22:38 (one month ago) link
lmao kid goes to smh he gets enough breaks in life already sheesh
― polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Tuesday, 7 May 2024 22:56 (one month ago) link
smh high
― Clay, Tuesday, 7 May 2024 23:00 (one month ago) link
kid shouldve taken off with the ball try to get out of the stadium thats a challenge
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 May 2024 23:01 (one month ago) link
attn frogbs:
Just overheard Victor Wembanyama, he's picking up cards for RogSi lol wtf pic.twitter.com/jH8ULjTS10— eddie (@1edddddddddddie) May 22, 2024
― ciderpress, Friday, 24 May 2024 02:56 (three weeks ago) link
the shop he was at is like a 5 min drive from my son's school
― polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Friday, 24 May 2024 03:25 (three weeks ago) link
btw wemby is a totally hopeless dork and hes absolutely perfect for our lame city
― polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Friday, 24 May 2024 03:26 (three weeks ago) link
btw2: ROY2nd in DPOY, all-nba defensive first teamblocks champfinishes 20th in all-nba voting
pretty good rookie season for the 20 year old center from fwonce
― polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Friday, 24 May 2024 03:34 (three weeks ago) link
i predict hes gonna get a lot of blocks in his career just have a feeling about it
― lag∞n, Friday, 24 May 2024 03:56 (three weeks ago) link
god can you imagine having to play against this guy. like you're trying to see a couple turns ahead in your mind but sitting across from you is a man wih the most insane body proportions youve ever seen in your life
― frogbs, Friday, 24 May 2024 04:01 (three weeks ago) link