NBA State of Play – Rule Changes – Trends – CBA – Schedule Reform – Load Mgmt – etc

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lmao

lag∞n, Friday, 2 February 2024 02:32 (four months ago) link

since this is all anyone is talking about this week lol

the other thing about the 65 game rule and why it’s fine, is that the NBA isn’t like the NFL where most of the money isn’t guaranteed and you can just be cut any time — once you sign the contract the money is going in the bank barring exceptional circumstances. a guy like hali who has missed both chunks of multiple seasons now is a pretty clear injury risk and it seems pretty reasonable that the *next* contract he signs should be reflective of that in some way.

one thing I don’t remember about the CBA and how this all works — do the all-NBA bonuses only apply prospectively, like hali missing out on awards this year means his entire next contract can’t be for the supermax? or can making all-NBA next year or the year after also trigger it?

truly humbled underdog (k3vin k.), Saturday, 3 February 2024 01:25 (four months ago) link

the former, you have to have made all nba within the previous three seasons to signing a supermax iirc

lag∞n, Saturday, 3 February 2024 01:30 (four months ago) link

right I guess that’s basically what happened with steph

truly humbled underdog (k3vin k.), Saturday, 3 February 2024 01:35 (four months ago) link

i think steph was before the that rule, he signed a contract for less than the was allowed to iirc

lag∞n, Saturday, 3 February 2024 01:37 (four months ago) link

ie not a max deal, wild stuff

lag∞n, Saturday, 3 February 2024 01:39 (four months ago) link

it’s two of the three previous seasons right? or am i making that up.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 3 February 2024 02:00 (four months ago) link

i think its just one, like jaylen got the supermax and he only made one

lag∞n, Saturday, 3 February 2024 02:03 (four months ago) link

ahhhh both are kind of true:

(A) Player was named to All-NBA First, Second or Third team in most reason season or both of the two seasons prior to the most recent season.

Based on 2021 offseason, player was named to any All-NBA team in 2020-21 OR was named to any All-NBA team in 2018-19 AND 2019-20.

(B) Player was named the Defensive Player of the Year (DPOY) in most reason reason or both of the two season prior to the most recent season.

Based on 2021 offseason, player was named to DPOY in 2020-21 OR was named as DPOY in 2018-19 AND 2019-20.

(C) Player was named Most Valuable Player (MVP) in any of the three most recent seasons.

Based on 2021 offseason, player was named as MVP in 2018-19, 2019-20 or 2020-21.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 3 February 2024 02:14 (four months ago) link

ah there u go

lag∞n, Saturday, 3 February 2024 02:17 (four months ago) link

25+ years of pace and efficiency history for the NBA.

The logo tracks the league average.

Faster pace is to the left, better offense is up.

Interesting to watch the league follow the Warriors’ lead up and to the left over the past 5 years. pic.twitter.com/S0qQANk7cp

— Mike Beuoy (@inpredict) February 3, 2024

truly humbled underdog (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 February 2024 00:04 (four months ago) link

Don Nelson the OG

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Sunday, 4 February 2024 01:50 (four months ago) link

adam silver saw offense dip one year and was like "never again"

. https://t.co/7FDfACBOx9 pic.twitter.com/Snb9Y35LL9

— Kirk Goldsberry (@kirkgoldsberry) February 13, 2024

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 20:46 (four months ago) link

celtics nets playing back to back in brooklyn and boston, the league will do this but not same teams back to back in one location, odd

lag∞n, Thursday, 15 February 2024 00:37 (four months ago) link

even tho they do play consecutive games with the same teams in the same location now

lag∞n, Thursday, 15 February 2024 00:37 (four months ago) link

Incredible fact: The West has had more All-NBA players in every single one of the past 25 seasons pic.twitter.com/dliCd4HP32

— Lev Akabas (@LevAkabas) February 28, 2024

they should make the east have 4 rounds before the finals or something

brony james (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 17:04 (three months ago) link

why is it like this

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 17:07 (three months ago) link

west is the best, east is the least, just geography can’t avoid it

polyamerie "it's more than this 1 thing" (m bison), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 19:09 (three months ago) link

12 to 3 in 2015 my lord

brony james (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 19:39 (three months ago) link

now more than ever we need the conferenceless 58 game season

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 19:47 (three months ago) link

if you think about some of the door a vs door b outcomes for some of these guys you can see how the conferences can get slanted for two decades. like...

duncan going to the spurs instead of philly or boston
kobe going to the lakers instead of charlotte
dirk going to dallas instead of milwaukee
luka going to dallas instead of atlanta
melo going to denver instead of detroit
the hawks passing on both chris paul and deron williams to pick marvin williams

etc i'm sure there's more

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 19:57 (three months ago) link

xp -ticket prices would instantly jump by about 180%

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 19:58 (three months ago) link

like... steph got drafted 7 overall by the warriors

the next 6 picks were all eastern conference teams

those picks were

knicks - jordan hill
raptors - demar derozan
bucks - brandon jennings
nets - terrence williams
bobcats - gerald henderson
pacers - tyler hansborough

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 20:02 (three months ago) link

if lebron had gone to memphis instead of cleveland they may have had to rearrange the conferences by like 2008

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 20:03 (three months ago) link

now more than ever we need the conferenceless 58 game season

― lag∞n, Wednesday, February 28, 2024 11:47 AM (sixteen minutes ago)

like a full-league double round robin? Clean.

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 20:04 (three months ago) link

memphis is already famously in the east they should let the lEast have them just as a treat

brony james (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 20:05 (three months ago) link

like a full-league double round robin? Clean.

― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, February 28, 2024 1:04 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is how the prem and every other major euro league does it, very tidy, obv superior

gbx, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 23:06 (three months ago) link

i think they should take some other stuff from them too, make the regular season champ the nba champ, then have a separate "cup" for the playoffs, also let all the teams in the playoffs so theyre longer to make up for the regular season games lost by shortening the season

lag∞n, Thursday, 29 February 2024 00:17 (three months ago) link

hmmmm I’m sensing some ulterior motives here

brony james (k3vin k.), Thursday, 29 February 2024 00:29 (three months ago) link

what its good ive solved all the problems

lag∞n, Thursday, 29 February 2024 00:43 (three months ago) link

i think they should take some other stuff from them too, make the regular season champ the nba champ, then have a separate "cup" for the playoffs, also let all the teams in the playoffs so theyre longer to make up for the regular season games lost by shortening the season

― lag∞n, Wednesday, February 28, 2024 5:17 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

these are all good ideas

k3vin you're wrong he's solved them

gbx, Thursday, 29 February 2024 02:33 (three months ago) link

some people want championships for the regular season because they are not built for the playoffs I’m just speaking facts

brony james (k3vin k.), Thursday, 29 February 2024 02:37 (three months ago) link

there should be one champion and it should be the team with the second worst record in the west

Clay, Thursday, 29 February 2024 02:53 (three months ago) link

the celtics have done very well in the playoffs except last year and even last year they got to game seven of the ecf which is not considered that bad, im tired of this story that theyve underperformed they have certainly way over performed all predictions over the jays era, last year was the first year people were even picking them to make the finals

lag∞n, Thursday, 29 February 2024 02:56 (three months ago) link

Lagoon is pressed you hate to see it

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Thursday, 29 February 2024 03:06 (three months ago) link

that’s true I like them because I live here, I hope it’s celtics nuggets finals

brony james (k3vin k.), Thursday, 29 February 2024 03:07 (three months ago) link

xp

brony james (k3vin k.), Thursday, 29 February 2024 03:07 (three months ago) link

I’m moving to LA this summer though I’m going to have to brave the elements as a lakers hater

brony james (k3vin k.), Thursday, 29 February 2024 03:08 (three months ago) link

Lagoon is pressed you hate to see it

― infinite wiggles (Spottie), Wednesday, February 28, 2024 10:06 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

wow im being bullied for my visionary ideas

lag∞n, Thursday, 29 February 2024 03:09 (three months ago) link

i feel like there is some confirmation bias happening here insofar as it seems more likely to me that already bad teams are making stopping the 3 their main strategy as opposed to being bad bcuz they’ve made stopping the 3 their main strategy. but having watched the heat not care about opponent 3 point rate for years now this is still somewhat interesting to me

The NBA teams who are trying to limit opponent 3PTAs defensively are by and large getting torched on D.

Really interesting plot. pic.twitter.com/8cwsNH9Nsi

— Haralabos Voulgaris (@haralabob) March 1, 2024

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Friday, 1 March 2024 23:22 (three months ago) link

Opponents are shooting 46% from 3 against CHI? Yeesh.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 1 March 2024 23:29 (three months ago) link

the x axis is 3pt rate as a percentage of total shots (how many threes vs twos), not 3pt accuracy. the y axis is showing efficiency per possession when a 3 is attempted by the opponent

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Friday, 1 March 2024 23:32 (three months ago) link

actually sorry i’m wrong about the y axis it’s just showing overall halfcourt defensive efficiency. just a basic measure of 3pt volume by opponent vs defensive efficiency

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Friday, 1 March 2024 23:34 (three months ago) link

the bulls letting opponents get up a three on 46% of possessions is still insane, but their half court defense ranks in the top 12-15 or so in the league

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Friday, 1 March 2024 23:36 (three months ago) link

Lol, gotcha. That upper/upper left has some terrible teams. Is IND because of their terrible D in the first half of the season or did they get better?

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 1 March 2024 23:38 (three months ago) link

feel like the bad teams might be giving up fewer threes cause their opponents just dunk instead

lag∞n, Friday, 1 March 2024 23:48 (three months ago) link

yeah i feel like there’s some correlation/causation amiss with this

call all destroyer, Friday, 1 March 2024 23:55 (three months ago) link

theyre also fast teams so transition leads to more dunks fewer threes too

lag∞n, Saturday, 2 March 2024 00:04 (three months ago) link

as far as the question is giving up threes good its prob a devils in the details sort of thing thing, like the celtics give up a fair amount of threes but not very many of them are from the corners, and good defenses will be better at understanding which players to let shoot and so forth

lag∞n, Saturday, 2 March 2024 00:10 (three months ago) link

you also don't need to take a bunch of threes when you are up by 25 points the whole game xp

Clay, Saturday, 2 March 2024 00:10 (three months ago) link


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