Miami Dolphins Thread of Despair

i think the pats have the only linebacking corps(e) where zach thomas could be thought of as the young guy.

Pats made an offer!

Are they going to offer Jack Ham and Carl Banks contracts too?

did jack ham or carl banks have career highs in tackles last year? are either of them younger than the pats two current starting inside linebackers?

did jack ham or carl banks have career highs in tackles last year?

i know zach thomas didnt, cuz nigga spent half the year concussed as all get out~

Get over your dreaming, Zach's a Cowboy!

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AlSq9f3J7EhfAahmfKZ8loRDubYF?slug=ap-cowboys-thomas&prov=ap&type=lgns

For once a Dolphin fan favorite doesn't go to the Patriots, AND goes to the other conference. I'm happy for him though, although I wish his Dolphins career didn't have to end on such a down note. At least he might have one more chance at winning something.

I was kind of looking forward to seeing the Pats sign him. Then they would have had a great linebacking corps-for 1995. Seriously, Bruschi,Vrabel, Seau and the Thomas brothers? Their games would have had to been shown on ESPN Classic.

Better, but still bleh.

Once the running game settles in, we may be able to win a few that we shouldn't have, but God is it disappointing to give up two gimme TDs to Favre without really making him work for them.

haha this thread has 295 posts

blah blah they are on the right track yada yada wake me up when ted ginn breaks out

id like to point out that i've been otm in this thread

and not just when i said this

i'm really serious about the dolphins beating the ravens. remember i'm saying this. the ravens are really, really awful. this year, they've beat the jets by 7, the cards by 3, san fran by 2 and st. louis before they were healthy by 19. we really could win the game (it's at home btw).

― J0rdan S., Monday, November 26, 2007 10:54 PM (9 months ago) Bookmark

you can't stop Greg Camarillo. you can only hope to contain him

Jay Fiedler drives a Geo Metro

I might have to start hating the Dolphins, now that their staduim is named after a Jimmy Buffett-product.

. . . They'll probably play Cheeseburger in Paradise over the speakers before home games.

Ugh.

Sums up my feelings perfectly. Oh, the new Dolphins song:

"'Fins' For The Fish"

We drove down on Interstate 95
And up on U.S. 1
It's game day in Miami town
Where the Dolphins are No. 1
We play down by the ocean
In the warm South Florida sun
The tailgate's down so gather round
For some pre-game LandShark fun

Chorus
Can't you feel us circlin' Dolphfans
Can't you feel us schoolin' around?
We got fins to the left, fins to the right,
We're at the only game in town
Oh Oh Oh Oh
We got fins to the left, fins to the right,
It's the only game in town.

From Lauderdale and Boca
Palm Beaches and the Florida Keys
It's a game day mass migration
High fives fill the breeze
Kick off time's approaching
We gotta shut off our cell phones
And get our arms up in the air
We are entering the "FinZone"

Chorus

ommfg.

Whew! Only temporary:

As of today the Dolphins no longer play at Dolphin Stadium. Now they (and the Marlins, and UM) play at LandShark Stadium, named after a beer that hardly is the pride of the Anheuser-Busch stable. Don't get used to LandShark, though. The name-change is for the remainder of 2009 only and it'll be back to Dolphin Stadium for the next Super Bowl, unless they pimp the name to a new corporate sponsor by then. How bizarre is that!? A temporary name change. It's part of a major tie-in with Jimmy Buffett and his Margaritaville conglomerate

Miami's post-Marino QB curse.

Quarterbacks we've passed up in drafts this decade: Aaron Rogers; Matt Ryan; Drew Brees; Tom Brady.

Don't take the Brady thing so hard. 30 other teams passed him over too.

Same thing with Brees. And you know what? If they'd been drafted into the Dolphins organization they wouldn't have grown up to be Tom Brady and Drew Brees.

^^this

and really, you can blame the brees thing on saban & that management for deciding to sign culpepper instead. rogers is good but the packers wrs are far, far more talented than whatever the dolphins have now. matt ryan is great of course but jake long was a great pick.

remember daniel that when the dolphins drafted ted ginn, there was an insane outcry from people down there about how they passed up on brady quinn. so you know, if they would've went with 'conventional wisdom' they would've been just as screwed as they are now (probably even more so considering that ginn, regardless of how he is perceived in miami, is the team's #1 receiver and a generally good player overall imo [doesn't help that he's a speedy deep threat on a team whose quarterback was incapable of throwing a ball over like 40 yds])

you can blame the brees thing on saban

Indeed I do.

doesn't help that he's a speedy deep threat on a team whose quarterback was incapable of throwing a ball over like 40 yds

And things just got much better in that regard, amirite?

yeah i think so

You're hopeful for Henne?

yes i think so. i mean, the guy was never next level at michigan but this current staff really likes him & i think they are to be trusted (altho to be fair their track record on player personnel - pennington aside, altho that was luck probably - is kind of up in the air still). he's been off the field enough to step right in and give the phins a chance to win every week i think. plus he's got all the physical stuff right.

I only saw him a couple of times in college but henne just seemed, I dunno, slow. slow release slow feet etc.

I agree w/ the slow thing, but I still weirdly liked him in college. I'm w/ j0rdan - I'd wait to make any judgment and let him play a few games...

The feeling here, when Henne was drafted, is that he was a complete steal. I don't know where he was projected to be drafted, but maybe he fell to us at that draft pick?

Anyway, the jury's out. But I think, at this stage, it's fair to suggest a "Marino Curse" on the Dolphins quarterback position this decade. The lesson: Fans should not be mean to Dan Marino.

again and again, history suggests that basically nobody can predict which of these guys is gonna be the steal and which one is gonna be the bust.

too much monday morning quarterbackdrafting - nobodyyyy knows, just let em play and see what hpapens.

srsly most teams don't get one Dan Marino, let alone wait around for the second coming. afaic it might as well be the Fiedler Curse.

i.e. the curse is having had a Dan Marino and thinking you can dial up another one.

yeah otm - fiedler was a pretty decent qb tbh. a few teams in the nfl would killl for a competent qb like him who could, uh, "guide" his team to the playoffs a few times.

also a jew

Okay, okay. Fiedler was a decent-to-good quarterback. And a Jew. He made my people proud.

But we've spent a loooooooong time wandering in the desert since then.

Fiedler is one of those guys like Garcia and Warner who didn't even really get a chance to play until he was close to 30.

You have to think this might be the end for Pennington. The guy has had a bad shoulder for a long time. He hung around alot longer in the NFL than some thought.

Dan Marino was so good he completely changed how Shula coached. That dude was a total run the ball down their throat and play solid D guy and they turned into like a super high scoring passing attack. Marino lost quite a few games where he would throw for 5 TDs. It was crazy. The Dolphins had near absolute zero running game the whole time he was QB.

I'm kinda of a MAC stan and was always rooting for Pennington- its' too bad he was always getting banged up

Yeah the Marino era Dolphis were something else but it was bizarre how Shula could never get a consistent ground game going. In the 70's with Griese the 'phins would throw the ball like 12 times a game.

http://img2.ifilmpro.com/resize/image/stills/films/resize/istd/2805716.jpg

just checked the box score for the 72 super bowl and griese was 8 for 11. and Earl Morral started 9 games that year at QB for the Dolphins which I can never get my head around

wait hang on

http://dork457.ggot.org/DanMarino.gif

it was bizarre how Shula could never get a consistent ground game going

maybe b/c when you a once-in-a-lifetime QB/squeaky wheel like marino falls in your lap you end up developing an O-line that can maintain a perfect horseshoe pocket for weeks but can't run-block for shit?

oh no doubt, but it was strange to see a run first type of coach go completely aerial in his philosophy as he got older. He was going with his main strength obv.

Like Levy running the single wing with the Chiefs and then going to a no huddle with the Bills. I dunno, Noll and Landry really never changed all that much.

Tom Landry was pretty much a genius on both sides of the ball. The guy developed the modern 4-3 defense with the Giants and his offense with the Cowboys pretty much put together the modern style offense especially in the passing game by using the shotgun, shifting the setup and putting people in motion.

Marino was a witch. If Miami got the ball back with any time down a score, you pretty much knew your team was screwed, especially if you were a Jets fan. That ropeadope he pulled against the Jets faking the timeout was really cool. I saw him bring the Dolphins back 2 TDs in like 5 minutes against the Colts in person.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aHq1P7gccY

Yes, I agree about Landry, but earl can you see Landry going to an entirely pass offense or getting rid of his flex defense? Shula coached Super Bowl teams in the 60's the 70's and changed dramatically when Dan M. started.

Maybe it was the talent available to him at the time.

I think Shula is greatest football coach of all time imo btw

"the" greatest

god