To my knowledge, it's just them. I wanted to get involved but (despite my posting frequency making it seem otherwise) I ran out of spare time to really do anything significant to contribute.
― Huckabee Jesus lifeline (HI DERE), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 21:08 (fourteen years ago) link
i am in charge of popular stylesheet caek.css. push your changes to me via git if you have any.
― caek, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 21:08 (fourteen years ago) link
ah so thx xp
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 21:10 (fourteen years ago) link
tbf there was a lot of discussion before implementation, it was just with mods. i don't know that something like that is something you can really discuss beforehand and get any sort of conclusion on, because guessing what effect something is going to have on ILX is ...
Well, I think it would've nice for at least to let people voice their opinions. When ILX went registered-only, there was a huge discussion before it happened, and I think it was ultimately for the good. It's always better to have some transparency than not, because then people won't feel like there's a "mod conspiracy" to mess with them. Even if you've already decied to implement a new feature, I can't see how having people discuss it beforehand could do any harm; at the very least it might help to pinpoint some potential problems in the feature that the mods might have not considered. The way SB was installed, at first people didn't even know what exactly it does, which created a lot of confusion.
eg, I think SNA changed the site's dynamic in a lot of ways, but there was no way to know whether it'd be good or bad except to see how it turned out in practice. It too had to be meddled with afterwards, but I think it turned out OK.
The difference is that SNA is an optional feature that can be ignored by those people who don't care about it (like me). That is very much not the case with SBs.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 21:11 (fourteen years ago) link
i wld b willing 2 code but only something that autoreplaced posts w cool unicode designs
― ‹◦‗‗‗‗‗•› (Lamp), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 21:12 (fourteen years ago) link
The way SB was installed, at first people didn't even know what exactly it does, which created a lot of confusion.
Some people. . . still don't understand it
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 21:13 (fourteen years ago) link
Asking them in the context of "btw you totally suck and everything you do is wrong and the only way I MIGHT shut up about how much I hate what you're doing is if you do this thing I am assuming is simple" is what we are finding annoying.
How many people have done this though? For every change I've suggested, I've tried to provide the reasons I think it would be sensible, and I've certainly never said the mods or anyone sucks. I don't think they do.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 21:13 (fourteen years ago) link
those 2 sentiments are generally not combined in the same post tbf
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 21:14 (fourteen years ago) link
When ILX went registered-only, there was a huge discussion before it happened, and I think it was ultimately for the good.that's not really the same; you can tell how that's going to work and there's a clear decision to be made. With this the problem it was solving didn't have clear edges, the solution didn't have clear edges, and what would actually happen was hard to predict. It'd have been exactly like the SB discussions were, except with even fewer facts.
It's always better to have some transparency than notAgreed on this. There could always be a better job done, but we are getting better, i think. Compared to the v1 launch where I basically went "it's on, have at it" and the v4 launch where Keith posted a monster changelog, i'm def aware of the need to explain stuff.
(SNA, btw, affects the smaller boards because there threads are way more visible than before; even if none of their users ever step outside into the zinglands)
― stet, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 21:24 (fourteen years ago) link
Asking for changes isn't a bad thing in and of itself. Asking them in the context of "btw you totally suck and everything you do is wrong and the only way I MIGHT shut up about how much I hate what you're doing is if you do this thing I am assuming is simple" is what we are finding annoying.
what mod persecution fantasy thread is this happening on?
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 21:28 (fourteen years ago) link
maybe the one where you accuse the mods of having a persecution fantasy?
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 21:29 (fourteen years ago) link
nobody said the mods suck and everything they do is wrong
if fact ppl were pretty grateful upthread about the expiry thing
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 21:31 (fourteen years ago) link
I still think that a lot of people click on "SB" as if it were the equivalent of voting up or down a post. I mean, I'm guessing a lot of these are joeks, but I wonder:
basket > foot > hock > watching paint > base
― Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Wednesday, May 27, 2009 2:06 PM (6 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
SB'd you for that
― resistance is feudal (WmC), Wednesday, May 27, 2009 2:09 PM (6 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
***
classic 90s, no question. the point where the beats/lyrics had evolved past simple funk loops/barney rubble type rhyme/rhythm schemes, but before the whole culture imploded due to its own weight and became a glossy shell.
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Saturday, September 26, 2009 4:40 PM (2 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― what an adorably formed "smoke"! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, September 26, 2009 4:45 PM (2 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
I voted for ORL even tho I am a Lakers homer. I apologize to those I have offended.
― mayor jingleberries, Wednesday, November 4, 2009 1:41 PM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
^^ sb'd you for that
― carne asada, Wednesday, November 4, 2009 1:45 PM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Just about to listen to his Vascomaster cover on FP18 while I do a spot of light dusting around the house. Will I be delighted or disgusted?
― Goethe*s Elective Affinities, Monday, July 13, 2009 11:32 AM (4 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i dunno, but i just sb'd you for saying "vascomaster" again
― michael jatas (r1o natsume), Monday, July 13, 2009 11:40 AM (4 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
you know who this trhead really needs some input from is gabbneb
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, March 19, 2009 10:42 AM (8 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
SB'd you for that.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, March 19, 2009 10:47 AM (8 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Although to be fair I guess the best modern-day analog for Tristam Shandy would be "How I Met Your Mother," since it is essentially the same thing -- "let me tell you a story," and then the joke is that the story goes on forever before getting to anything remotely resembling what it's supposed to be about
xpost - ok, Cont., but then I don't really get what you are arguing -- I think everyone pretty firmly agrees that this is a more mainstream habit in the modern-day US than in the past
― nabisco, Friday, February 27, 2009 4:01 PM (9 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
"Although to be fair I guess the best modern-day analog for Tristam Shandy would be "How I Met Your Mother,""
i just sb'd you for this
― gabbnebuchadnezzar (and what), Friday, February 27, 2009 4:03 PM (9 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
I liked the Orgy "Blue Monday" enough to hunt down the original on Napster in ninth grade and o.m.g. what a disappointment
― A B C, Thursday, October 29, 2009 1:42 AM (1 month ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
SB'd you for this
― RAPTOBER (sic), Saturday, October 31, 2009 4:04 AM (1 month ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― Nuyorican oatmeal (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 21:41 (fourteen years ago) link
i wanted to do that and am glad someone did
― omaha deserved 311 (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 21:42 (fourteen years ago) link
jaymc i sb'ed you for that last post
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link
Okay, really jaymc?
― Huckabee Jesus lifeline (HI DERE), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 21:44 (fourteen years ago) link
jaymc otm
― sarahel, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 21:44 (fourteen years ago) link
none of those people dished out those SBs, from what I can see
― stet, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 21:46 (fourteen years ago) link
For the record, no one in any of those exchanges had a suggest ban lodged against them as a result of that exchange. I do not know what the daily average of suggest bans lodged is but I can say that the majority of them have been to posts on this thread, both mods and non-mods, and the people clicking on the suggest ban link span the pro- and anti-sb camps.
My takeaway from that is that people are fucking tired of reading/talking about this.
― Huckabee Jesus lifeline (HI DERE), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 21:51 (fourteen years ago) link
in b4 the lock
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 21:51 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm guessing a lot of these are joeks
ding ding ding
― nearly 50 in vagina years (onimo), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 21:56 (fourteen years ago) link
i demand that the coders add links/buttons for lol fu and no really, fuck you alongside sb
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 22:00 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't know how the killfile works (tl;dr), but if someone knows maybe they could answer this q: is it moddable in such a way that you could selectively ~hide~ a certain poster's contributions the way that turning off images does? like you could click to read what someone said if you felt like it, but could otherwise ignore them?
that way i could skip tuomas posts on sex or SB threads, but not on others
― crazy farting throwback jersey (gbx), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 22:01 (fourteen years ago) link
j/k shine on you crazy diamond
That is exactly what it does, gb. I used to have it, but upgraded browser at some point and lost all my settings. I shd prob go back to it but honestly the most useful thing at this point would be if I could block Tuomas on every thread about modding, ever, and I'm not sure it can be targeted that specifically.
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 22:02 (fourteen years ago) link
OMG XP I didn't even read your last bit, I was just responding to the question about killfiles lol.
I wish there was a killfile that would hide all posters except yourself + two others of your choosing
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 22:06 (fourteen years ago) link
no ilxit
hell is other posters
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 22:07 (fourteen years ago) link
lol that would be awesome!
― harbl, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 22:07 (fourteen years ago) link
xxp - that would be the opposite of no exit though - it would have to be two other posters chosen for you by a mod with a sick sense of humor.
― sarahel, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 22:09 (fourteen years ago) link
your fellow posters are: Tuomas and Deeznuts
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 22:10 (fourteen years ago) link
can you guys get working on this, should take about 10 minutes
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 22:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Shd be an option like the "Random threads" -- you can get two random posters but you gotta keep it for...24 hrs? A week?
― WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 22:12 (fourteen years ago) link
I wish there was a killfile that would hide all posters except yourself + two others of your choosingjust read aeon flux
― stet, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 22:13 (fourteen years ago) link
oh that is way better than the convoluted "Thunderdome!" joke I was trying to construct
― Huckabee Jesus lifeline (HI DERE), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 22:16 (fourteen years ago) link
Maybe that could be what happens when you're sb-ed?
― sarahel, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 22:16 (fourteen years ago) link
'suggest thunderdome'
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 22:18 (fourteen years ago) link
this is the last great SB thread, RIP
― a. cole, u thic (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 22:18 (fourteen years ago) link
that would basically be a poll where the prospective sb-ee is put up against another poster and the winner/loser actually gets sb-ed.
― sarahel, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 22:19 (fourteen years ago) link
was there a first great SB thread
― angels we have heard while high (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 22:19 (fourteen years ago) link
your fellow posters are: mayor jingleberries and harbl
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 22:20 (fourteen years ago) link
your fellow posters are: Captain Lorax and Gabbneb
― sarahel, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 22:21 (fourteen years ago) link
your fellow posters are: cankles and masonic boom
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 22:22 (fourteen years ago) link
nah pretty sure it would involve me & j0rdan sargent annoying each other for all eternity.
― sarahel, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 22:23 (fourteen years ago) link
Captain Lorax has sent you an ILX Chat invite. Do you accept?
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 22:24 (fourteen years ago) link
asking ppl stop this now
― Huckabee Jesus lifeline (HI DERE), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 22:25 (fourteen years ago) link
mayor jingleberries! oh boy!
― harbl, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 22:30 (fourteen years ago) link
omg que
― brutt fartve (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 22:42 (fourteen years ago) link
this is why we can't have nice things
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 22:59 (fourteen years ago) link