-Mordy started overtalking me, quoting "death of the author" (what? is that a threat?)-I posted a disgruntled tweet about mansplaining because he has a history of overtalking women, esp re "mansplaining"
just reread these two over and over until you get why you have this reputation
― frogbs, Thursday, 18 October 2012 21:31 (eleven years ago) link
i think the thread was about "not having existed" instead of "no longer existing"
then again, "a wonderful life" takes the idea of "no longer existing" and deals with the question by showing the effects of "not having existed"
hard to extricate the two
― the late great, Thursday, 18 October 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link
forks has really done some admirable work moving threads to IMP lately
― k3vin k., Thursday, 18 October 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link
"-Mordy started overtalking me, quoting "death of the author" (what? is that a threat?)"
I missed this. Wow.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 18 October 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link
Never heard the phrase overtalking until today btw. That's a good phrase.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 18 October 2012 21:33 (eleven years ago) link
haha omg rosetta stone right there
― --bob marley (lag∞n), Thursday, 18 October 2012 21:33 (eleven years ago) link
just out of curiosity WCC, why do you think these things keep happening to you?
― frogbs, Thursday, 18 October 2012 21:34 (eleven years ago) link
the thread title says "cease to exist" and, in my mind, that implies from this point forward
― Anime Mann (diamonddave85), Thursday, 18 October 2012 21:34 (eleven years ago) link
jesus have you guys never seen that term before? ha i thought we were all deep in liberal blog world, guess not
― there is no dana, only (goole), Thursday, 18 October 2012 21:35 (eleven years ago) link
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3olak8D8q1qg2pvjo5_500.gif
― Burgled Hams (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 October 2012 21:35 (eleven years ago) link
when I searched for overtalking this is what I got
boob-over 3 up, 33 downa professor of law with an extensive comb-over who is a poor teacher, goes off on tangents and is excruciatingly boring.What the fuck is this boob-over talking about? I just fell asleep for forty minutes.
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 18 October 2012 21:36 (eleven years ago) link
boob-over talking
WCC, just for your reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_the_Author
― Burgled Hams (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 October 2012 21:37 (eleven years ago) link
A guy has bullied me off a thread. He announces that he is watching me, and reporting on my behaviour - as far as I can tell, with the intention of starting and perpetuating a clusterfuck. I find being at the bottom of a clusterfuck really quite scary and intimidating and not very nice, believe it or not. Being threatened with one scares me.
I have walked away from ILX to avoid being caught up in those clusterfucks.
He then comes after me on twitter, and starts contacting me through twitter.
This is starting to feel like the behaviour of actual IRL stalkers (a couple of ex boyfriends, a couple of freaks who got obsessed with my band) who have used the internet to monitor and threaten me. I can't explain how "I'M READING YR TWITTER" is threatening and scary unless you've experienced someone *finding your email address just to prove they can, that you are not safe from them* but to me, it is.
Maybe this is me being weird and paranoid, but when a guy starts coming after me like *that* (i.e. leaving ILX, the public sphere and coming into my private sphere) I want his name out there. I want people to see who it is doing this, in case that person escalates.
I'm NOT calling Mordy a stalker. But I'm saying that his behaviour started to really remind me of actual stalkers I've had. I'm sure people are going to say "OMG, you are playing the victim yet again." I found his behaviour intimidating enough to want a public record of it. That tweet with his handle in it was my public record of "this guy has escalated to making contact on twitter, I am not OK with this."
I really need to go to bed now (though I probably won't sleep.) Ban me or don't ban me, I don't care any more.
― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Thursday, 18 October 2012 21:37 (eleven years ago) link
xp Yeah but OL that wiki page neglects to mention all the authors that Barthes threatened and then killed.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 18 October 2012 21:38 (eleven years ago) link
kind of disturbing to watch at this point
― bnw, Thursday, 18 October 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link
for the record, i'm pretty sure you guys live in different countries
― let's have sex and then throw pottery (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 18 October 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link
I am on a bus and just lost my shit out loud at kool-aid man and everyone turned to look at me. Thanks Jord.
― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Thursday, 18 October 2012 21:41 (eleven years ago) link
you shouldve yelled out 'OH YEAAAAAH'
― --bob marley (lag∞n), Thursday, 18 October 2012 21:42 (eleven years ago) link
You joke about that whole "different countries" but I had a guy who lived in the Netherlands fly out to NYC and turn up outside my apartment.
Yes, I am jumpy and over paranoid about some kinds of stuff. And I'm sure to some people that is hilarious and entertaining. But if my alarm bells are calibrated really strangely, it's because I've experienced stuff that you clearly cannot even imagine.
― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Thursday, 18 October 2012 21:44 (eleven years ago) link
You should keep your twitter private.
― boxall, Thursday, 18 October 2012 21:46 (eleven years ago) link
I mean, probably everyone who tweets anything more personal than horse_ebooks or whatever should.
I've had someone from ILX (from a different country) show up at my house unannounced.
― Melissa W, Thursday, 18 October 2012 21:47 (eleven years ago) link
xp no, i was serious about the different countries thing. and, having met Mordy IRL (with his whole family), i can say that he's a mellow and unthreatening and quite pleasant guy.solely to put you at ease, not to lecture.
― let's have sex and then throw pottery (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 18 October 2012 21:47 (eleven years ago) link
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, October 18, 2012 9:32 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
next level
― pandemic, Thursday, 18 October 2012 21:48 (eleven years ago) link
please note that all ilxors are totally not welcome to show up at my house regardless of your country of origin
― let's have sex and then throw pottery (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 18 October 2012 21:48 (eleven years ago) link
The FAQ is desperately out of date (and was 404ing until I just fixed it to add to the mess), but this is worth quoting:
An ILX Poster is hassling me off-board! Do something about it!"No." is the short but unfortunate answer here. The moderators totally disapprove of people being assholes off-board but our jurisdiction is the board: there really isn't anything we can do about it.
I appreciate that there are some deep feelings and grievances here, but there is an aspect of this that is also taking on petty/childish tones. You guys (and I'm thinking of WCC and Mordy) need to sort this out. You need either to be able to be civil to or ignore one another, because you can't keep posting if it's going to be like this.
I suggest taking it offboard. Either use webmail or something else and come to terms. But stop this, please.
(And everyone else: I'm not sure the Socratic questioning of WCC's behaviour or scrutiny of her use of twitter or discussing how ILX "handles" her posts is productive right now either.)
― stet, Thursday, 18 October 2012 21:48 (eleven years ago) link
I'm NOT calling Mordy a stalker.
sorry to state the obvious, but...in the paragraph before that you said "but when a guy starts coming after me like *that* (i.e. leaving ILX, the public sphere and coming into my private sphere) I want his name out there. I want people to see who it is doing this, in case that person escalates." (by the way it's odd to think of twitter as your private sphere, even if you did keep those initial posts "private". it's twitter.)
and in the paragraph before that you said "This is starting to feel like the behaviour of actual IRL stalkers"
and you started the paragraph before that with "He then comes after me..."
and before that you did this:
http://i50.tinypic.com/9ql6c5.png
― down w/ obana...he is the reson were in dept (Z S), Thursday, 18 October 2012 21:49 (eleven years ago) link
all ilxors are totally welcome to show up at my house regardless of your country of origin (do not travel if you hate me)
― --bob marley (lag∞n), Thursday, 18 October 2012 21:50 (eleven years ago) link
Thing is, Mordy may be an ordinary guy to you, who you have met with his family IRL*. He is a stranger to me, and a stranger who was acting in some very frightening ways.
(*Kinda like Sick and Andrew have a different image of me to most ILX0rs, because they have hung out in pubs with me)
― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Thursday, 18 October 2012 21:50 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah WCC regardless of the rights and wrongs of what's going on here an unlocked Twitter account is not your "private space" in any way shape or form unless you actually lock it. Twitter themselves can do whatever they want with those public tweets. You may consider it private, but it's not.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 18 October 2012 21:51 (eleven years ago) link
yow, i missed the twitter user callout. that is uncool.
― let's have sex and then throw pottery (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 18 October 2012 21:52 (eleven years ago) link
What Mordy was doing AT THAT POINT IN TIME (coming after me on twitter after I had refused to engage with him on ILX) was behaviour that was a lot like that which my actual turn-up-at-my-house stalker had done to me.
Saying "X was behaving in a way that was scarily similar to the ways that a former stalker behaved to me" is not the same as saying "X is a stalker"
― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Thursday, 18 October 2012 21:53 (eleven years ago) link
(Suicide-Related Post Removed by Soda)
― formerly r. bean (soda), Thursday, 18 October 2012 21:54 (eleven years ago) link
so he's not a stalker, but he is "creepy", "a bully", "a stranger who was acting in some very frightening ways".
― down w/ obana...he is the reson were in dept (Z S), Thursday, 18 October 2012 21:56 (eleven years ago) link
stet that is a cop out. It's not ok to take ilx stuff to twitter to abuse posters.
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 18 October 2012 21:57 (eleven years ago) link
x-posts etc
I have found this a really unfair rule in the past, when I was being the focus of shitty stuff, but right now I'm prepared to abide by this.
― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Thursday, 18 October 2012 21:57 (eleven years ago) link
Karen D Tregaskin
― (╯︵╰,) RIP (am0n), Thursday, 18 October 2012 21:57 (eleven years ago) link
― let's have sex and then throw pottery (forksclovetofu), Thursday, October 18, 2012 2:52 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol this is like the premise of the whole thread u fool
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 18 October 2012 21:59 (eleven years ago) link
this whole fucking idiotic thread
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 18 October 2012 22:00 (eleven years ago) link
i feel okay for not having read it
― let's have sex and then throw pottery (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 18 October 2012 22:00 (eleven years ago) link
If there is somebody you hate on ILX then we suggest for the sake of ILX as a whole and its overall tone that you do your best to ignore them.
Ppl are going to talk this shit out, lock each thread there'll be another one right behind it.
― boxall, Thursday, 18 October 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link
hmm
― down w/ obana...he is the reson were in dept (Z S), Thursday, 18 October 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link
My understanding was that 'moderation' is what happens when that well-intentioned advice from the FAQ is repeatedly ignored by a specific user or users.
― boxall, Thursday, 18 October 2012 22:06 (eleven years ago) link
LITERALLY BAGS OF SCUM
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 18 October 2012 22:06 (eleven years ago) link
― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Thursday, October 18, 2012 5:57 PM (9 minutes ago)
hahaha wait
― k3vin k., Thursday, 18 October 2012 22:08 (eleven years ago) link
http://rlv.zcache.co.uk/crazy_face_sticker-p217959696642404973envb3_400.jpg
― Burgled Hams (Old Lunch), Thursday, 18 October 2012 22:10 (eleven years ago) link
I think it's a little unreasonable to ask someone who has been - and continues to be - described as a stalking, creepy, misogynistic bully to just drop it and learn to coexist. But what am I if not unreasonable?
For whatever reason, it is 6:14 PM here and I willing to forget that this ever happened. I don't know if my esteemed college feels the same but I will not post publicly on ILX regarding this issue ever again.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-i7swBLl_Sco/TtUm4zV9O9I/AAAAAAAAAsU/woOek3EmFPw/s1600/incense_wcm001.jpg
― Mordy, Thursday, 18 October 2012 22:14 (eleven years ago) link
i showed up at jjjusten's work once and held him hostage until he reconed my peavey bass cab
― i dox in yellow gox dox socks (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 October 2012 22:15 (eleven years ago) link