this feels like a case of "missing stair" where we've excused the behavior for years, but after telling Brad "I have too many dogs in this fight, and as far as I can see you have none" in the transgender thread a few years ago, I feel like that was the final straw.
― if you meh them, shut up (Neanderthal), Monday, February 22, 2021 8:02 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
lmao i forgot about this. in retrospect what the fucking fuck
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 22 February 2021 16:34 (three years ago) link
I came out as NB on Discord two months ago and on FB one month ago. I took so long to come out here because I was afraid that they would notice and try to make everything all about themselves again.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Monday, 22 February 2021 16:40 (three years ago) link
sarahell has diligently and thoughtfully attempted to support BB's modes of communication, and shape discussions to include them, in the last year,
??? how should I respond to this??
― sarahell, Monday, 22 February 2021 17:04 (three years ago) link
i'd say positively— you're trying to make space for someone that no one else has been able to make space for, or is through with, and that isn't a mark against you, more a mark against them that you've had to take the energy and time to make that space.
― it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Monday, 22 February 2021 17:08 (three years ago) link
in any case, i was away during many of these previous incidents with said person, and don't remember much about them on the boards when they had a different user/dn, so i have little fur to lose in this situation, except they seem to be exceptionally awful imo.
― it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Monday, 22 February 2021 17:10 (three years ago) link
Ugh, not totally following the latest wrinkle, tried to peek at the relevant thread for a second, although I don’t even feel comfortable reading it so I stopped, but just want to say I am sorry for those who are having to deal with this (again).
― The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 22 February 2021 17:11 (three years ago) link
what are we talking about itt?
― lag∞n, Monday, 22 February 2021 17:20 (three years ago) link
ALSO still waiting for an apology here
lol ... that reminds me of that classic post with GWB aboard the aircraft carrier ... like we are all treeshy's "colorful friends"
― sarahell, Sunday, February 21, 2021 9:15 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
this picture is really cracking me up its like a dream bush is having abt when everything works out just how he planned and all his colorful friends are congratulating him― ice cr?m, Monday, December 1, 2008 12:05 PM
― sarahell, Sunday, February 21, 2021 9:18 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
― lag∞n, Monday, 22 February 2021 17:22 (three years ago) link
i apologize for remembering your post fondly and riffing on it. i apologize for comparing ilxor treeship to former president George W Bush. i apologize for comparing ilxors to aircraft carrier staff in the context of us being treeship's "messageboard people"
― sarahell, Monday, 22 February 2021 17:42 (three years ago) link
(table read my meaning right)
― stilt in the wings (sic), Monday, 22 February 2021 17:48 (three years ago) link
Any time I post something cool on ILX, treeship tweets about it.
― pplains, Monday, 22 February 2021 17:48 (three years ago) link
Oh wait. That's lag∞n who does that.
no it's me
― lord of the ting tings (map), Monday, 22 February 2021 17:49 (three years ago) link
this whole thread is going on my shit_ilx_says account
― lag∞n, Monday, 22 February 2021 17:50 (three years ago) link
I read sics post as only positive sarahell
― scampsite (darraghmac), Monday, 22 February 2021 18:14 (three years ago) link
I think sarahell is very thoughtful and does a great jobnever really beefed with the ilxor in question thank god except one time I ended up calling them the "mayor mccheese of suicide" which I don't remember the specifics and probably regretful
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 22 February 2021 18:17 (three years ago) link
im sorry but lol
― lag∞n, Monday, 22 February 2021 18:18 (three years ago) link
literal irl lol
― superdeep borehole (harbl), Monday, 22 February 2021 18:20 (three years ago) link
is there something you can be the "mayor mccheese" of that would not be lol tho? not to diminish matt's very well earned lol.
― sarahell, Monday, 22 February 2021 18:23 (three years ago) link
i mean tbh, i just went through any number of possibility in my head, it felt like i was trying to title a bunch of Prurient albums.
― it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Monday, 22 February 2021 18:24 (three years ago) link
never really beefed with the ilxor in question thank god except one time I ended up calling them the "mayor mccheese of suicide" which I don't remember the specifics and probably regretful― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, February 22, 2021 1:17 PM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, February 22, 2021 1:17 PM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
best thing i've read on here for a while. going on my tumblr
― treeship., Monday, 22 February 2021 18:27 (three years ago) link
omg Prurient -- that reminds me of when Prurient was touring w/Merzbau a couple years ago, and I forget what the context was, but Merzbau blocked our friend s1nuba on twitter for ... I forget why ... but his comment was something like "Merzbau disapproved" and we spent like an hour making memes of random images and putting "Merzbau disapproved" on them.
― sarahell, Monday, 22 February 2021 18:30 (three years ago) link
This thread has become brilliant.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Monday, 22 February 2021 18:32 (three years ago) link
I'm the mayor mccheese of sleep
― rob, Monday, 22 February 2021 18:39 (three years ago) link
I'm the mayor mccheese of mis-spelling the names of prominent noise acts
― sarahell, Monday, 22 February 2021 18:43 (three years ago) link
merzbow mccheese
― treeship., Monday, 22 February 2021 18:45 (three years ago) link
lol I was wondering if I needed to bump the Unnecessary Googleproofing thread ;)
― Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Monday, 22 February 2021 18:49 (three years ago) link
nah s1nuba is a Scorpio ... they would search for their name and find this thread ... oh wait ...
― sarahell, Monday, 22 February 2021 18:50 (three years ago) link
speaking of which -- post your astrological sun / moon /rising sign and I will tell you what you are Mayor McCheese of ...
― sarahell, Monday, 22 February 2021 18:51 (three years ago) link
I ended up calling them the "mayor mccheese of suicide"
*Grimace*
― pplains, Monday, 22 February 2021 18:55 (three years ago) link
omg ... !!!!!!
― sarahell, Monday, 22 February 2021 18:56 (three years ago) link
lol
― lag∞n, Monday, 22 February 2021 18:59 (three years ago) link
should ilxors be banned for taking their all beef patties to social media
― stilt in the wings (sic), Monday, 22 February 2021 19:04 (three years ago) link
impossible burger tbh
― sarahell, Monday, 22 February 2021 19:13 (three years ago) link
Ouch, my mcribs
― if you meh them, shut up (Neanderthal), Monday, 22 February 2021 19:16 (three years ago) link
http://pics.me.me/thumb_i
― That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 22 February 2021 19:20 (three years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/EcXNqnR.png
― That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 22 February 2021 19:21 (three years ago) link
Sad I missed Whiney's intrusion into the No Boys Allowed thread, even though I think that is poor form.
― Rocky Thee Stallion (PBKR), Monday, 22 February 2021 19:21 (three years ago) link
it actually did get commemorated:
Who are the self-clowning ovens of ILX?
― sarahell, Monday, 22 February 2021 20:06 (three years ago) link
there is this v troubling and uncomf pattern I have seen where when ppl try to patiently explain their transgressions to them or hold them accountable, they will derail it by switching to this facetious hyperbole thing of "well I GUESS I can't say ANYTHING then! I guess EVERYONE just HATES me!!!!!!!", it is incredibly manipulative
― Warmed Regards, (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 22 February 2021 20:09 (three years ago) link
Yeah, that's pretty much just the pattern, afaict.
― The Mandolinrainian (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 February 2021 20:11 (three years ago) link
idk if it's facetious or if they are genuinely feeling that way but ... it definitely functions to make people feel shitty who confront them in a respectful manner
― sarahell, Monday, 22 February 2021 20:13 (three years ago) link
and it leads to compounding the amount of ... really, it's a pretty appropriate term here ... emotional labor ... required to broach the subject and not immediately back down or leave or ...
― sarahell, Monday, 22 February 2021 20:14 (three years ago) link
facetious is not the right word but when you scream "I GUESS I can't say ANYTHING", you know that you cannot in fact not say anything, there is a knowing dramatic exaggeration for effect
― Warmed Regards, (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 22 February 2021 20:16 (three years ago) link
it's so incredibly childish!!
― Warmed Regards, (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 22 February 2021 20:18 (three years ago) link
the answer there is "you CAN'T say ANYTHING, you can say MOST THINGS and there are a few things you CAN'T say and if you had been raised properly you would KNOW WHAT THOSE THINGS ARE"
― That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 22 February 2021 20:19 (three years ago) link
fwiw admin log now saying ban is permanent
― jammy mcnullity (wins), Monday, 22 February 2021 20:20 (three years ago) link
i would just like to say i'm very grateful to sarahell for documenting this moment in the self-clowning ovens thread.
― lord of the ting tings (map), Monday, 22 February 2021 20:20 (three years ago) link
the whole thing makes me sad, bcz they are incredibly smart and often have v insightful and unique and interesting things to say, but they are also capable of so much harm, and no amount of like gentle calling-in seems to have had any long-term effect on their behavior. like I so so so wish they could get to a place where they could accept criticism w/o such volatile reaction but as long as that is the case it does not seem like a v great environment for us OR them
― Warmed Regards, (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 22 February 2021 20:22 (three years ago) link
i mean, i think they see gendered oppression everywhere they look. they read it into civil critiques offered by non-male, non-straight, non-cis ilxors -- everyone is an avatar of patriarchy. there is a degree of manipulation in this, for sure, but i also think they see the world like this, which is what makes me feel weird about the whole thing. it feels delusional.
― treeship., Monday, 22 February 2021 20:22 (three years ago) link