i mean tbh, i just went through any number of possibility in my head, it felt like i was trying to title a bunch of Prurient albums.
― it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Monday, 22 February 2021 18:24 (three years ago) link
never really beefed with the ilxor in question thank god except one time I ended up calling them the "mayor mccheese of suicide" which I don't remember the specifics and probably regretful― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, February 22, 2021 1:17 PM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, February 22, 2021 1:17 PM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
best thing i've read on here for a while. going on my tumblr
― treeship., Monday, 22 February 2021 18:27 (three years ago) link
omg Prurient -- that reminds me of when Prurient was touring w/Merzbau a couple years ago, and I forget what the context was, but Merzbau blocked our friend s1nuba on twitter for ... I forget why ... but his comment was something like "Merzbau disapproved" and we spent like an hour making memes of random images and putting "Merzbau disapproved" on them.
― sarahell, Monday, 22 February 2021 18:30 (three years ago) link
This thread has become brilliant.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Monday, 22 February 2021 18:32 (three years ago) link
I'm the mayor mccheese of sleep
― rob, Monday, 22 February 2021 18:39 (three years ago) link
I'm the mayor mccheese of mis-spelling the names of prominent noise acts
― sarahell, Monday, 22 February 2021 18:43 (three years ago) link
merzbow mccheese
― treeship., Monday, 22 February 2021 18:45 (three years ago) link
lol I was wondering if I needed to bump the Unnecessary Googleproofing thread ;)
― Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Monday, 22 February 2021 18:49 (three years ago) link
nah s1nuba is a Scorpio ... they would search for their name and find this thread ... oh wait ...
― sarahell, Monday, 22 February 2021 18:50 (three years ago) link
speaking of which -- post your astrological sun / moon /rising sign and I will tell you what you are Mayor McCheese of ...
― sarahell, Monday, 22 February 2021 18:51 (three years ago) link
I ended up calling them the "mayor mccheese of suicide"
*Grimace*
― pplains, Monday, 22 February 2021 18:55 (three years ago) link
omg ... !!!!!!
― sarahell, Monday, 22 February 2021 18:56 (three years ago) link
lol
― lag∞n, Monday, 22 February 2021 18:59 (three years ago) link
should ilxors be banned for taking their all beef patties to social media
― stilt in the wings (sic), Monday, 22 February 2021 19:04 (three years ago) link
impossible burger tbh
― sarahell, Monday, 22 February 2021 19:13 (three years ago) link
Ouch, my mcribs
― if you meh them, shut up (Neanderthal), Monday, 22 February 2021 19:16 (three years ago) link
http://pics.me.me/thumb_i
― That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 22 February 2021 19:20 (three years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/EcXNqnR.png
― That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 22 February 2021 19:21 (three years ago) link
Sad I missed Whiney's intrusion into the No Boys Allowed thread, even though I think that is poor form.
― Rocky Thee Stallion (PBKR), Monday, 22 February 2021 19:21 (three years ago) link
it actually did get commemorated:
Who are the self-clowning ovens of ILX?
― sarahell, Monday, 22 February 2021 20:06 (three years ago) link
there is this v troubling and uncomf pattern I have seen where when ppl try to patiently explain their transgressions to them or hold them accountable, they will derail it by switching to this facetious hyperbole thing of "well I GUESS I can't say ANYTHING then! I guess EVERYONE just HATES me!!!!!!!", it is incredibly manipulative
― Warmed Regards, (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 22 February 2021 20:09 (three years ago) link
Yeah, that's pretty much just the pattern, afaict.
― The Mandolinrainian (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 February 2021 20:11 (three years ago) link
idk if it's facetious or if they are genuinely feeling that way but ... it definitely functions to make people feel shitty who confront them in a respectful manner
― sarahell, Monday, 22 February 2021 20:13 (three years ago) link
and it leads to compounding the amount of ... really, it's a pretty appropriate term here ... emotional labor ... required to broach the subject and not immediately back down or leave or ...
― sarahell, Monday, 22 February 2021 20:14 (three years ago) link
facetious is not the right word but when you scream "I GUESS I can't say ANYTHING", you know that you cannot in fact not say anything, there is a knowing dramatic exaggeration for effect
― Warmed Regards, (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 22 February 2021 20:16 (three years ago) link
it's so incredibly childish!!
― Warmed Regards, (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 22 February 2021 20:18 (three years ago) link
the answer there is "you CAN'T say ANYTHING, you can say MOST THINGS and there are a few things you CAN'T say and if you had been raised properly you would KNOW WHAT THOSE THINGS ARE"
― That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 22 February 2021 20:19 (three years ago) link
fwiw admin log now saying ban is permanent
― jammy mcnullity (wins), Monday, 22 February 2021 20:20 (three years ago) link
i would just like to say i'm very grateful to sarahell for documenting this moment in the self-clowning ovens thread.
― lord of the ting tings (map), Monday, 22 February 2021 20:20 (three years ago) link
the whole thing makes me sad, bcz they are incredibly smart and often have v insightful and unique and interesting things to say, but they are also capable of so much harm, and no amount of like gentle calling-in seems to have had any long-term effect on their behavior. like I so so so wish they could get to a place where they could accept criticism w/o such volatile reaction but as long as that is the case it does not seem like a v great environment for us OR them
― Warmed Regards, (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 22 February 2021 20:22 (three years ago) link
i mean, i think they see gendered oppression everywhere they look. they read it into civil critiques offered by non-male, non-straight, non-cis ilxors -- everyone is an avatar of patriarchy. there is a degree of manipulation in this, for sure, but i also think they see the world like this, which is what makes me feel weird about the whole thing. it feels delusional.
― treeship., Monday, 22 February 2021 20:22 (three years ago) link
yeah, sorry for semantic nit-picking -- I guess I try not to focus on trying to read said poster's mind or assuming anything about their intentions or thought process, but the effect on the people that they treat that way, and how you feel abused and manipulated ... like, that's the key thing. That it's a pattern, that it affects many people, that it's been brought to this poster's attention by numerous people, some of them friends (and now former friends), and things don't really change.
Like, you should be able to say respectfully: maybe you didn't intend to come across this way, but this feels abusive and I feel manipulated by the way you do x. And the other poster should respond: Fuck! I don't want to be an asshole! I don't want to hurt you. I am sorry.
And not like you are obligated to just accept that at face value, but, the fact that there didn't appear to be any regret or empathy and only defensiveness and anger ... that is bad.
― sarahell, Monday, 22 February 2021 20:24 (three years ago) link
the whole thing makes me sad, bcz they are incredibly smart and often have v insightful and unique and interesting things to say, but they are also capable of so much harm, and no amount of like gentle calling-in seems to have had any long-term effect on their behavior.
otm!!!
― sarahell, Monday, 22 February 2021 20:26 (three years ago) link
The thing is that literally anyone on this board has some 'thing' they could point to as the reason they constantly behave badly if that person were of a mind to constantly behave badly, but an explanation is not an excuse. And it's not something people here do, by and large. We fuck up because we're humans who fuck up and, by and large, when we fuck up, we issue our mea culpas and try to make right rather than saying 'oh, this one thing about me is why I fucked up and why it's basically your shit to deal with rather than mine'.
Anyway.
― The Mandolinrainian (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 February 2021 20:28 (three years ago) link
― Warmed Regards, (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, February 22, 2021 8:22 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
yes, this is what it boils down to imo. like, lots of us have rough edges but most of us who do genuinely want to apologize for and change behavior that needlessly hurts other people (though lord knows for some of us it's not always easy). but this person hasn't shown any willingness to move in that direction at all, which over time creates an untenable situation.
― lord of the ting tings (map), Monday, 22 February 2021 20:29 (three years ago) link
xp They're on the record as saying that the only use for empathy is to keep men from physically abusing women. I was chilled to my core when I read that.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Monday, 22 February 2021 20:47 (three years ago) link
They are the only traumatised person in the entire world, the only one with mh issues. The only trans person. In fact they are the sole protagonist of the universe and other humans don’t actually exist, so don’t merit consideration. As another poster said it’s a hell of a lot to continue putting up with narcissists at a time when everyone is looking for community and support. I had to have a grim chuckle at Neanderthal’s post upthread about a horrible incident being “the last straw”... “a few years back”! it clearly takes a lot to get to this stage & they have put the work in to get this ban
― jammy mcnullity (wins), Monday, 22 February 2021 20:54 (three years ago) link
i miss mh ... did he quit ilx?
― sarahell, Monday, 22 February 2021 21:05 (three years ago) link
Just busy with work iirc
― scampless, rattled and puce (gyac), Monday, 22 February 2021 21:09 (three years ago) link
That corn won’t cob itself
― jammy mcnullity (wins), Monday, 22 February 2021 21:09 (three years ago) link
isn't it more like C:>/ orn or something ...?
― sarahell, Monday, 22 February 2021 21:10 (three years ago) link
Corned beef #
― scampsite (darraghmac), Monday, 22 February 2021 21:34 (three years ago) link
I had to have a grim chuckle at Neanderthal’s post upthread about a horrible incident being “the last straw”... “a few years back”!
Villager: He's a Frankenstein, and they're all the same. It's in their blood, they can't help it. All those scientists, they're all alike. They say they're working for us, but what they really want to do is rule the world.Second Elder: That's enough now. I will not have this meeting become a free-for-all. These are very serious charges you're making. All the more painful to us, your elders, because we still have nightmares from five times before.
― I'm Going to Bring a Watermelon to Mark Grout Tonight (Tom D.), Monday, 22 February 2021 21:45 (three years ago) link
Lol.Love that scene, especially because the villagers all have British accents, like Peter Noone or something.
― The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 22 February 2021 22:11 (three years ago) link
I have too many dogs in this fight, and as far as I can see you have none.
no one but they has the appropriate experience to comment on a wide range of matters; for someone to even try is discriminatory. all your dogs are belong to them
It is ableist to hold autistic people to these highly gendered neurological standards around the management of other people’s emotions.
it is discrimination to expect them to care about other people or their feelings, even those of 'friends'. consideration of others requires emotional labour, which they refuse to perform. someone died? not their problem; they shall neither amend nor apologize
this has been going on for 18 years! everyone (well, not gyac or tombot) walks on eggshells whenever they're around and it always turns out the same way! people, most notably sarahell in recent times, bend over backward to accommodate them, only to be shivved in turn. they're only here, periodically, for attention or to-the-letter agreement, and do not care in the least about other people or their experiences
fucking enough already
― mookieproof, Monday, 22 February 2021 22:49 (three years ago) link
notable Admin Log update:
(Update, Feb. 22, 2021: after reflection and consultation, this ban is now permanent. Signed WmC)
― Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Monday, 22 February 2021 22:52 (three years ago) link
And the crowd goes wild.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Monday, 22 February 2021 22:54 (three years ago) link
ah -- i'd assumed that 'permanent' was the usual admin log misnomer
nm!
― mookieproof, Monday, 22 February 2021 22:54 (three years ago) link
Look i aint been starting anything this past few years, sure, but i must protest at eggshells tbh
― scampsite (darraghmac), Monday, 22 February 2021 22:58 (three years ago) link
Yeah I think plenty of ppl have not at all hesitated to smash a few rounds of eggs over the years tbh. For whatever aim/result it had.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 22 February 2021 23:05 (three years ago) link