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FSA is nice stuff, I often think about stealing the FSA triple from my GF's bike. Would like to go compact on the surly having spent the entire bike trip high cadence on the bottom ring. WOuld like to move the surly over to SRAM Apex over time but really don't want to do new levers if I can avoid it.

(Can I shot SRAM with Shimano levers can be the ILTRMB "Can I play Bass through a guitar amp?")

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 10 June 2010 20:58 (fourteen years ago) link

i think you can indeed mix and match shimano and sram as much as you like!

amuse-douche (haitch), Friday, 11 June 2010 04:35 (fourteen years ago) link

the shutt stuff has been getting some really good reviews on forums and stuff Coz.

thanks chris, have ordered some kit so will report back. pro-tip: if you join their club they give you a code (club10 lol) for 10% off :)

EVALUATION COPY (cozen), Friday, 11 June 2010 22:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Want to buy a bike for charity?

http://www.bikeweek.org.uk/page.php?id=74

Mark C, Monday, 14 June 2010 11:18 (fourteen years ago) link

man i just can't get with those pinarellos

well the black-on-black versions are pretty nice

600 grams of chips for men and 300 grams for ladies (haitch), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 14:06 (fourteen years ago) link

why are textforms & logos so lol HUEG & PROMINENT all over most high-end road equipment these days? nagl imo

the one corey (Pillbox), Thursday, 17 June 2010 04:01 (fourteen years ago) link

bike stolen :'(

gonna do ride to work scheme to get next bike

bike has to be from http://www.evanscycles.com

can spend up to a £1000, would like to spend £7-800, but will stretch to £1000 if it's going to make a big difference in quality.

last bike was a giant fcr-1, loved it it was my first road bike and last summer we did 250+ miles a week and a few london to cambridge rides.

i'm still a total noob when it comes to bike stuff though

having looked at my options i really like the look/idea of some of the SS bikes on there, i live in london now and this will be used for communting 10-15 miles a day. like the idea of the trek district with the belt thing

http://www.evanscycles.com/products/trek/district-2010-single-speed-hybrid-bike-ec016811

hoping some of you will convince that getting a SS is a lame idea, because some of them *look* really nice and it is very tempting but i might want to join a club or venture out of london where there are actual hills and things.

so the caad 9 is meant to be a really good frame but kinda shitty bits on it, i could upgrade the bits tho if i want to get serious right? and surely these bits aren't that crappy, right?

http://www.evanscycles.com/products/cannondale/caad-9-tiagra-compact-2010-road-bike-ec020238

the look of the specialized bikes offends me for some reason, so i don't want one of them, the bent bit at the top (top tube?) looks ugly

have heard good things about the trek pilot:

http://www.evanscycles.com/products/trek/pilot-21-2010-road-bike-ec020781

anyone have any thoughts on either of these? or any of the other bikes evans stock?

Crackle Box, Monday, 21 June 2010 11:20 (fourteen years ago) link

i also like the idea of the belt-drive trek, perfect commuter really.

caad9 is excellent frame, tiagra bits are only one step down from 105! u should p33p that, imo.

600 grams of chips for men and 300 grams for ladies (haitch), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 05:39 (thirteen years ago) link

If you're only able to get one bike, then the Cannondale. However, if you're regularly having to leave your bike where it could get nicked, I'd be tempted to go for something a lot cheaper, either an entry level (£500) roadie or an even cheaper fixie liek the Fuji Track.

Mark C, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 10:21 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah that would be my main consideration especially for a commuter - nickworthyness. I think the boardman bikes on the c2w scheme at halfords are about £500 rrp (so less on c2w) and decently specced last time I looked. I think they look nice too but obv ymmv

I'd get this if I were to go fixed
http://www.evanscycles.com/product_image/image/09d/101/92e/45773/product_page/genesis-flyer-520-2010-road-bike-frame-set.jpg

too much vuvuzela dangle (cozen), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 10:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Boardman bikes are excellent value but are exclusive to Halfords. The Genesis FGSS is super pretty, agreed, though in your price range there are loads of excellent ungeared bikes. I say one very similar to mine (Bob Jackson with Phil Wood & Nitto stuff) for £950 in a shop it Putney, it was gorgeous. May be worth checking with Evans what they can get and what they can't. Personally I wouldn't get a Trek because I am a snob (NB I do actually have a Trek, but intend to sell it - I'm sure I'll post a thread soon hawking it :)).

Mark C, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 10:37 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.evanscycles.com/products/charge/mixer-2010-hybrid-bike-ec020530?query=charge%20mixer

quite like the look of this

think i'm gonna go with the caad, hopefully i'll be able to test one round here first, obv i'll get it insured.

so excited about being back on the road again, london cycling seems kind of nuts, i'm used to cambridge which is pretty much the nicest city to cycle around in the uk imo

the commute is stoke newington -> waterloo, hopefully i'll be able to get in on some silly commuter racing

last bike was stolen during the snow we had over here, had to abandon it cuz it was too slippery, d-locked it up in a church in cambridge, hopped on a bus to work, came back in the afternoon w/car to pick it up and it was gone :(

Crackle Box, Thursday, 24 June 2010 12:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Looking to buy a road bike in the $1000-$1200 range. So far I've test-ridden a 2010 Fuji Roubaix 1.0, a 2009 Scott Speedster S20, and a 2009 Cannondale Six 5.

I liked the Fuji and the Cannondale so far. The Scott, apart from the ugly paint scheme, threw a chain when shifting to the small ring, and would skid when braking hard. I don't know if that was a setup issue, because the Cannondale had the same 105 shifters and front derailleur, but diff. brakes and rims. The Fuji had SRAM Rival shifters and derailleurs, which I liked the feel of. I also think I prefer standard to compact gearing.

I plan to test a 2010 Specialized Allez Elite tomorrow. I had wanted to try the Felt F85 and F75, but one local shop stopped carrying them, and the salesman at the other dealer was kind of eh on them. Also wanted to try a Trek 2.1, but nobody had one in my size.

Any advice? I'm a noob when it comes to new bike shopping, but want to make an informed decision. Should I give it a few months and wait for the 2011 models?

naus, Thursday, 1 July 2010 07:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Or give it a few months and wait for the 2010 models to be discounted?

Ultimately, there are few obvious yays or nays in that price range, so it'll more than likely come down to what you like the look of and what feels best when you test ride it. Or the bargain/last year's model approach.

If you'd consider internet bargains (no test ride obv) then how about, say, this carbon lovely? Or a real bargain (aluminium, but check the groupset - also I am a big Focus fan, owning the next model up)?

Mark C, Thursday, 1 July 2010 13:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Of your selection the 2009 Cannodale six 5 seems like a pretty good deal at that price. I liked the ride on that, very direct. Didn't not like the scott much by comparison, although TBF it was a CR1.

Raleigh Competition (fugly paintjob)
Jamis Ventura (road a xenith when I was on the hunt and it was pretty nice)
Gary Fisher Rail Super (Road the ion also when testing things out and liked it)

Didn't like the Felt so much, big rise on the stem on the one I tried which is a 30 second fix.

I won't rep for them as I have never ridden one but if you have a Performance Bike nearby it may be worth trying one of their Scattante CFR own brand bikes alongside the Focus Culebro. Cannondale CAAD 9 6 would be a good one to throw in as well.

If you can find one to ride the Orbea Aqua TTG looks nice, looks like you are trading down on gruppo a little.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 1 July 2010 13:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Thanks for the suggestions!

JensonUSA isn't an internet thing for me, as their retail store is less than 10 minutes away from my office. I should call them about the Culebro. It's only listed in a 50cm, and I'm about a 51-52 based on what I've tried so far. They seem to be the only local place that carries Jamis bikes as well. I think I saw one Rocky Mountain when I was there, but it could have been a lesser model. Would like to try a full-carbon bike though!

The bikes I liked at Performance were just out of my price range, but they frequently have sales and send coupons. Two weeks ago, I could have gotten that Fuji out the door for about $1000!

I will check for shops that carry Raleigh and Orbea.

naus, Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:43 (thirteen years ago) link

I plan to test a 2010 Specialized Allez Elite tomorrow.

i rent one of these when I'm in Hawaii 2x a year. They either come equipped with 105, Tiagra or Sora depending on the rental. It's a great bike. Handles hills well and can maintain speed on the flats. Things to look for when you're testing them are the subtle differences in the frame geometry. Try to (if possible) find a stretch that you can test each bike on and make mental (or written/voice) notes of what frame feels more relaxed, more aggressive to try and tune your comfort zone. Another thing to remember is that as you get into better fitness, what may have at first been uncomfortable may ultimately become what you desire most about the bike... if that makes any sense.

_▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:50 (thirteen years ago) link

^good advice, I had a great time in a few bike stores with a little loop with a couple of short climbs (and then ended up buying a completely different bike on the internet with a geometry that (somewhat) matched)

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Warning - if you try a carbon bike you'll find it very, very difficult to settle for an aluminium one afterwards :)

Mark C, Friday, 2 July 2010 12:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Which is probably why I ended up going for the Cannondale Six 5, which is half-carbon. Picked it up (along with shoes and pedals) last night, and got ~22 mi. in before the sun went down.

I did like the Specialized, but the carbon seat- and chainstays on the Six 5 seemed to make a difference. I'm far too noob to articulate how exactly, but I'm guessing that the CF stays helped to dampen, but not deaden, the unevenness of the road. Of course that could be part of the placebo effect of knowing what the frame was made of. It could have just been the frame geometry?

The shop itself played a big part in feeling confident about my purchase. The salesman took me on a few rides around the block and put the bike onto a trainer to monitor my knee position, arm reach, and kept making adjustments to the saddle and seatpost to dial everything in. He even adjusted the cleat position on the shoe. Free tune-ups and everything! I've heard of other people getting stuff like pedals thrown into the deal, but I didn't care to ask or haggle, since mom-and-pop stores like that tend to be low-margin, low-volume specialist dealers anyway.

BTW I went with Look Keo Classics as opposed to the Keo Easy or the Speedplay Zeros. I was pretty close to going w/ Speedplay, esp. 'cause they make the Platformer, but replacement cleat prices steered me to the Looks.

naus, Sunday, 4 July 2010 00:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Nice! Good job on getting the mileage base in as well! One question though: WDYBLL?

_▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Sunday, 4 July 2010 02:38 (thirteen years ago) link

That's brilliant, naus. I hear such great things about the Cannondales in that price range. I'm sure you'll love it.

Mark C, Sunday, 4 July 2010 20:35 (thirteen years ago) link

WDYBLL

naus, Monday, 5 July 2010 00:27 (thirteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

should i get bad karma?

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/1874766826.html

Felt FC 2009 Road Bike 58cm - $500 (SOMA / south beach)

To bikers everywhere,

Bitter divorce. Ex-husband hasn't picked up his bike in a week. First 1 with cash takes it. He screwed me, I'd like to screw him.

Pick up only. Cash only.

jaxon, Sunday, 1 August 2010 21:03 (thirteen years ago) link

long stem

that's what she said (cozen), Sunday, 1 August 2010 21:41 (thirteen years ago) link

think I may need to buy a new bike : (

cozen, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 18:10 (thirteen years ago) link

or at least a new frame

the braze-on for my front mech is torn and so the carbon that bonds it is torn - not sure it can be re-bonded, or removed without weakening the frame - and it's a second hand frame, and way out of warranty, anyway : /

cozen, Wednesday, 4 August 2010 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link

OK so it might be alright

dang there goes my canyon

cozen, Thursday, 5 August 2010 08:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Dude, there are so many excellent-value frames out there. You owe it to yourself - and, yes, to us too - to find one.

Mark C, Thursday, 5 August 2010 13:52 (thirteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

So what should I get to replace the surly? Probably not for a while, I have a loaner till then.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 12:22 (thirteen years ago) link

You really liked the Surly, didn't you? Like for like not practical?

Mark C, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 13:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Other than the dropout thing that both gbx and I suffered from it's just fine. Soma double cross is functionally the same thing with a proper dropout. Just seeing if there is anything out there I should be looking at and really just hoping something comes good on CL/eBay.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 14:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Do you have a budget (sorry if that's a sore point)? Do you know Cotic?

Mark C, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 16:16 (thirteen years ago) link

I have less of a budget the longer I can ride the loaner. Need to work that out, constraint is it's a pain the the arse to buy groceries and stuff without a bike, so may end up getting something sooner rather than later, which means cheaper.

Gunnar crosshairs would be good, but not sure it gives much over surly/soma.

Hoping a good steel cyclocross frame turns up on eBay, build it out with SRAM Apex, could swap wheels with the BMC and hold off on buying new wheels till next spring.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 17:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Don't know cotic, but the seem to be more of an mountain outfit.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link

The Roadrat gets a lot of love:

http://www.cotic.co.uk/product/roadrat

Mark C, Tuesday, 31 August 2010 20:46 (thirteen years ago) link

is apex really a lot less expensive than rival? last time I looked the saving was only around £70

jozam djinn (cozen), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 20:52 (thirteen years ago) link

It's not, but I think it is less of a lower down product, more satisfying a different market. The claim is that you can get close to a triple range with a compact double.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 31 August 2010 21:54 (thirteen years ago) link

It would be wrong to put a panier rack on this, no?

http://www.wrenchscience.com/DBImages/800H/bmc_crossmachine_blkwht_2010.jpg

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 1 September 2010 14:07 (thirteen years ago) link

and by that I mean the older aluminum frame. I do love my BMC.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 1 September 2010 14:11 (thirteen years ago) link

fact: i saw a bmc road bike with kickstand yesterday.

my stomach is full of anger. and pie. (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 1 September 2010 15:12 (thirteen years ago) link

I have just bought a Brompton. Sadly, only on behalf of a friend. But it's pretty and I want it (though sitting on it I find the suspension disconcerting).

Mark C, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Hey Americans, the Jenson USA end of summer sale is on - they have A+ bargains.

Mark C, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 19:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Garmin-Slipstream Felts 4 sale (including hunter, taylor phinney & steven cozza's)
http://www.shopslipstreamsports.com/bikes-and-equipment.html

Fartbritz Sootzveti (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 1 September 2010 19:39 (thirteen years ago) link

someone posted one of these on the bike lust thread recently iirc?

Fartbritz Sootzveti (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 1 September 2010 19:40 (thirteen years ago) link

A dude at the local velodrome (san diego) races on one of those Union Jack Felt track bikes with B.Wiggins nameplates on it. Dude wears a full England national kit and is ungodly fast.

sous les paves, Thursday, 2 September 2010 00:28 (thirteen years ago) link

He'd have to be with that gear. It's definitely not Brad, is it? Try criticising The Jam in his earshot and see if he explodes.

Hey, Crackle Box, did you buy a bike?

Mark C, Thursday, 2 September 2010 10:08 (thirteen years ago) link

mark sell us ur dog eh

ultimusmoron (cozen), Thursday, 2 September 2010 20:23 (thirteen years ago) link


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