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really noticed this on a flight between Noo Yawk and Miami, and it was one of many soft drink options

milquetoast malone (King Boy Pato), Tuesday, 27 March 2018 09:16 (six years ago) link

never really seen it ordered on non-US flights

milquetoast malone (King Boy Pato), Tuesday, 27 March 2018 09:16 (six years ago) link

I don’t take caffeine so I asked for it and the stewardess had to go search for it lol

droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 27 March 2018 09:18 (six years ago) link

You guys have some problem with drinking booze on a flight?

Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Tuesday, 27 March 2018 09:31 (six years ago) link

I don’t like getting dehydrated so I rarely drink on flights. This last trip (12+ hour flight) I was bumped up a class on air france and the stewardess, relieved to find a French speaker, talked me into wine.

droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 27 March 2018 09:33 (six years ago) link

Yes, I wouldn't normally drink on flights either, but on a long flight I'm not going to drink ginger beer tbh

Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Tuesday, 27 March 2018 09:44 (six years ago) link

I am a savage it is true

droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 27 March 2018 09:47 (six years ago) link

the thing is.. drinking ginger ale on a plane fuckin rules

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 27 March 2018 11:10 (six years ago) link

I bought a 2-liter of ginger ale lemonade, and I'll tell you something, it ain't the same.

Last time I was on a plane, I asked for either a Sprite or a 7-UP. They said they only had Sierra Mist.

So I drank ginger ale.

pplains, Tuesday, 27 March 2018 13:08 (six years ago) link

ginger ale isn't ginger beer btw

ale's ok as a mixer, beer is good any time

bad left terf nut (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 27 March 2018 13:12 (six years ago) link

ginger ale is an abomination tbh

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 27 March 2018 13:18 (six years ago) link

About as much of an ale as root beer is a beer.

pplains, Tuesday, 27 March 2018 15:00 (six years ago) link

i'm old enough to remember people ordering tomato juice because they thought it was healthier/would keep them hydrated

i usually just drink water, but will sometimes opt for orange juice

F# A# (∞), Tuesday, 27 March 2018 16:32 (six years ago) link

i've also noticed the tomato juice on a flight thing!

surm, Tuesday, 27 March 2018 18:45 (six years ago) link

actually i never thought of ginger ale on a flight but there's something about the marketing of ginger ale that i find very appealing at large. it's an ale! it's healthy! no caffeine! still tastes great! etc
def my favorite soda even though crush is my close #2 haha

surm, Tuesday, 27 March 2018 18:47 (six years ago) link

i would love to know how ginger ale worked its way so firmly into the american psyche as something you drink on the plane. surely this must constitute the bulk of the ginger ale business. whenever else do you even see it??

literally the last thing i ever want to happen on a flight is some gastrointestinal emergency and ginger ale helps mitigate that risk

tomato juice on the other hand i have no fucking clue

brendon urine (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 27 March 2018 18:55 (six years ago) link

it's an ale!

it's not

it's healthy

...

just noticed tears shaped like florida. (sic), Tuesday, 27 March 2018 18:57 (six years ago) link

i was on flights in the early 80s and distinctly remember my dad ordering ginger ale. it's just what you do.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 27 March 2018 19:20 (six years ago) link

Ginger is an anti-emetic so it’s meant to stop you vomiting over everything though idk how much actual ginger is involved in ginger ale.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Tuesday, 27 March 2018 19:24 (six years ago) link

ginger ale and tomato juice are what i remember adults drinking when taking a break from being actively, aggressively alcoholic. (c. late 1970s)

Right column Leftist (sunny successor), Tuesday, 27 March 2018 19:32 (six years ago) link

ginger ale works well as a mixer but that's about it

was recently advised that in certain south east asian countries, ginger intake is less about the stomach and more about giving zing to the, uh, gentleman and lady parts

milquetoast malone (King Boy Pato), Tuesday, 27 March 2018 20:19 (six years ago) link

prices on store shelves or menus not including the sales tax

Lee626, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 04:08 (six years ago) link

^ this is almost as insane as tipping but doesn't get the same press

just noticed tears shaped like florida. (sic), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 07:14 (six years ago) link

always get caught out on the sales tax, every freaking time

milquetoast malone (King Boy Pato), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 07:28 (six years ago) link

“Resort fees” at hotels, too.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 07:28 (six years ago) link

When I was in Manhattan a couple of years ago I said to the guy in a store where I'd just bought a map, "I keep forgetting about the sales tax". His reply: "How do you think we pay for all these wars buddy?"

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 08:00 (six years ago) link

most places in Miami had a 'service fee' and expected a tip!!!

outrageous!!!

Cardigan B (King Boy Pato), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 08:43 (six years ago) link

When I was in Manhattan a couple of years ago I said to the guy in a store where I'd just bought a map, "I keep forgetting about the sales tax". His reply: "How do you think we pay for all these wars buddy?"

― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:00 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that's...not how it works in america but ok

NBA YoungBoy named Rocky Raccoon (m bison), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 11:00 (six years ago) link

It was said w/ some humour, yr honour.

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 11:43 (six years ago) link

humor, yr honor ... remember what thread you're in.

Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 11:45 (six years ago) link

:-)

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 11:57 (six years ago) link

I like having the sales tax factored into the price already, but here's why I don't think it works in the U.S.:

- Different tax rates for different types of food.

- Different tax rates for different municipalities, counties and states.

It's much easier for a company to set a price and let the government add what they want to it rather than trying to work backwards by figuring out what the local tax is and figuring up what your base price will be. Imagine designing a grocery flyer for a six-county metro, saying GROUND CHUCK $3.80/lb and having to have each county try to work out what their real price is going to be.

Here's where I totally expect non-USAers to say WELL WE MANAGE TO SEND OUT OUR FLYERS WITH THE SAME PRICE, but I expect that your taxes are a bit more generalized than our little Balkanized nation of 2000 counties.

pplains, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 13:20 (six years ago) link

just use income tax for state revenues ffs

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 13:46 (six years ago) link

Believe me I wish we would

valorous wokelord (silby), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 15:47 (six years ago) link

Know where in the U.S. you can usually find sales tax included in the price of off-the-shelf goods? Liquor stores.

pplains, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 16:33 (six years ago) link

I bought a bottle of booze the other month and it was ~$15 more than the sign said.

Who's looking at or receiving flyers for chains of groceries? If you're selling something in a shop, you can put the price of that item within that shop on the sign in the shop that tells you the price of the item! Instead of a different price that does not actually relate to the price you will pay!!!

just noticed tears shaped like florida. (sic), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 16:40 (six years ago) link

Who's looking at or receiving flyers for chains of groceries?

Those of us who aren't vagabound adventurers!

https://i.imgur.com/kTcsuVU.jpg

I think the big reason is just the time it takes to figure out the retail cost of an item. Just figure out what the tax is at check out, like everyone else. That way, you won't waste time figuring up the price of items that don't sell.

($15 is a lot more than what anyone should expect though... unless the bottle cost $150.)

pplains, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 16:47 (six years ago) link

PolySci (university course)

I only realized yesterday it is short for Political Science and doesn’t mean “Lots of Science”

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 17:00 (six years ago) link

well, it's "poli sci"

valorous wokelord (silby), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 17:05 (six years ago) link

heaps of people write it as polysci

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 17:13 (six years ago) link

heaps of people spell laptop 'labtop'

sleepingbag, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 17:14 (six years ago) link

I think the big reason is just the time it takes to figure out the retail cost of an item. Just figure out what the tax is at check out, like everyone else. That way, you won't waste time figuring up the price of items that don't sell.

this makes absolutely no sense*. if you stock 500 of a successful item, then you're taking the time to figure out the retail cost 500 times at the check out, as opposed to once, at shelving.

one of the most infuriating things about it is the inability to get money ready to pay for your items before reaching the checkout; the amount of time this adds to everyone's transaction, if someone wishes to pay in cash, is enormous. in other countries, if I am buying a small item or three, I can count the money out before reaching an employee, hand it over, and leave. here, so as to not hold up everyone else in the shop, I now have about three kilos of coins that I have to find the time to take to a machine somewhere which will, for a TWELVE PERCENT handling fee, give me a VOUCHER that I can then take elsewhere to exchange for money.

*ie not sure if srs

just noticed tears shaped like florida. (sic), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 18:08 (six years ago) link

Do u still not exist enough in America to have a bank acct

valorous wokelord (silby), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 18:09 (six years ago) link

the amount of time this adds to everyone's transaction, if someone wishes to pay in cash, is enormous.

ime waiting for people to use their debit card takes longer than paying with cash.

new noise, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 19:09 (six years ago) link

micromanaging fellow patrons time, just fuck off

brimstead, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 19:12 (six years ago) link

lifehackers must die

brimstead, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 19:13 (six years ago) link

if you stock 500 of a successful item, then you're taking the time to figure out the retail cost 500 times at the check out, as opposed to once, at shelving.

Think about where ever the price is printed though. On the shelf. In advertising. On the board in the window. Oh, and the city held a special election last month to expand the marina and now every single one of those items has to be ticked up half a percent.

Good news though. The sales tax is only temporary which means you'll have to reverse the process in 18 months.

pplains, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 21:26 (six years ago) link

pp you are not effectively arguing for the sensible convenience of the current system

just noticed tears shaped like florida. (sic), Thursday, 29 March 2018 02:42 (six years ago) link


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