Recommend us bars, art galleries and restaurants.
And I'll give anyone a gold star if they can recommend anything in Tourcoing.
― Porkpie (porkpie), Sunday, 25 September 2005 21:39 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.hetschip.nl/index_en.html
but a bit gutted that the museum will be closed when I'm there. Oh well, I'll have to go back some other time. Can anyone recommend a good book on the Amsterdam School?
― Tim (Tim), Monday, 26 September 2005 07:37 (eighteen years ago) link
FESTIVAL RADAR "Rendez-vous Annuel des Acoustiques Radicales" from sept 30 thru oct 7 - a pretty good music festival
JARDINS D'OCTOBRE on the 1st and 2nd of oct - open gardens to walk through,e tc
FESTIVAL BD (comics) from oct 1st thru 29
they also have a nice modern art museum (Le Musée des Beaux-Arts)
the Saint Christophe church is also very nice, neo-gothic
― you better believe it (you better believe it), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:01 (eighteen years ago) link
I went to a great jazz club called cafe alto, off the leidseplein, which is on the way out towards the van gogh museum and those parks, around. those were some really great times
the van gogh museum looks OK, from outside. I have been there twice but never in. nice parks, around. the second time, I went, there was a huge, white, illuminated, inflatable house, nearby. it was part of the late-night gallery opening week or weekend, perhaps. we went inside and drank wine and no-one stopped us
most of the rest of this is buildings stuff. maybe not TOO interesting
the berlage exchange building, just down one of the main streets, from the train station, is v. impressive. I think they were renovating it, the last time I was there, but you could probably get a good tour, these days
I saw some other nice buildings like a wee steven hall, perforated copper pavilion (private, though, so only across a canal), aldo van eyck's hubertus house, some herman hertzberger school (more out of town, I think). don't think much of renzo piano's big, copper NeMo technology centre thing, on the water, but the roof is an OK walk-on.
the west 8-planned borneo & sporenburg bit is a good visit, east of the centre. they are old docks, redeveloped for housing and stuff. some big, landmark buildings, like the silver, twisting "whale", and much smaller, individual houses. these are the most interesting, I suppose, for the walk down either side of them--each is a plot of about four to six metres wide with the front, perhaps, on a street, and the back, perhaps, on the water. they're all quite different and have a kind of spines-on-a-bookshelf look. the big, funny bridges, between the fingers of the docks, are good, too. fun and a nice wee walk but it's colder and windier, I guess, and a bit...dead, out there
got a good talk about the current land reclamation stuff, from an engineer, last time, too. I don't know if they have actually started building on any of the new islands, though
I was very cold, in rotterdam. I think that was in february or march and it was only during the day, so I don't remember doing anything particularly fun. the massive, one-armed, cable-stayed erasmus bridge. dunno
don't know anything about ghent. a friend was there, for a few months and, I think, really enjoyed it, though
have fun!
― RJG (RJG), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:36 (eighteen years ago) link
I think the reason we're in Tourcoing is part of that Radar festival, but still, gold star to you better believe it
― Porkpie (porkpie), Monday, 26 September 2005 18:53 (eighteen years ago) link
berlage:http://gardenhomearchitects.com/Amsterdam-BuildingPrivate-DeBeursVanBerlage.jpg
steven holl:http://www.aplust.net/fotos/fotosquince/15pro01b.jpgand, at night (wee photo):http://www.archimagazine.com/bholl5.jpg
aldo van eyck:http://www.epdlp.com/fotos/avaneyck2.jpg
renzo piano:http://www.galinsky.com/buildings/nemo/Exterior%203.jpg
borneo & sporenburg houses:http://www.ivarhagendoorn.com/photos/architecture/images/borneo_1.jpg
the "whale":http://www.cie.nl/Pages/proj-pages/housing/9532_The%20Whale/whale1%20500.jpg
the bigger bridge:http://dyanmarie.com/SHOW/walkhere/bridges/Bridges_96dpi/BorneoSporenburg_GreatLights.jpg
outside of amsterdam, MVRDV's massive cantilevered housing add-ons:ihttp://www.cse.polyu.edu.hk/~cecspoon/lwbt/Case_Studies/Wozoco/wm_mvrdv07.JPG
rotterdam, I remember, koolhaas' kunsthal:http://www.buildingconnections.co.uk/imagebank/pics/170.jpg
erasmus bridge:http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/jfh2/afewpics/rotterdam/erasmus-bridge.jpg
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oh, yeah, those cubes. some friends got inside one. I think they are cool but silly OK
― RJG (RJG), Monday, 26 September 2005 19:05 (eighteen years ago) link
Sadly I'm a bit sketchy on actual details this far on.
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 26 September 2005 20:24 (eighteen years ago) link
Thanks chaps! I've seen some of those, R, and I particularly liked that van Eyck one, it seems to disappear when you look at it. I was completely floored on my first trip to Amsterdam by the big 20s Amsterdam School developments in the South of town past the Pijp, which is why I'm so excited to see Het Scheep and that.
Talking of van Eyck, there's that van Eyck in one of the Cathedrals in Ghent isn't there? One of the earliest known oil paintings, can't go wrong there.
And I understand our Tourcoing expedition does indeed intersect with RADAR, love. I shall be interested in which members of the 'Tele are Acoustices Radicales. I won't be shouting "Judas!" though, that would be corny. Yes it would.
Dancing in the streets is only aany good if there is TAR involved, TAR on FIRE.
― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 08:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 08:30 (eighteen years ago) link
http://tinyurl.com/7d59k
SOrry, not much help, I know.
― nathalie, a bum like you (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 08:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 08:40 (eighteen years ago) link
Cafe Gollem is exceptional if you're a belgian beer enthusiast (check the beer list linked off this page), and has a nice crowd.
If you don't mind spending a bit on food, I heartily recommend going with the chef's surprise menu at d’Vijff Vlieghen, on Spuistrasse. They also have five original Rembrandt etchings on display.
― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 08:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― nocure, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 08:53 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.d-vijffvlieghen.com/nl/index.asp?
― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 09:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― Vicky (Vicky), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 09:19 (eighteen years ago) link
Oh yes! Definitely. Hence why so many students, who once lived in Bruges, stay in Ghent after they graduate from university.
― nathalie, a bum like you (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 10:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 11:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― Porkpie (porkpie), Friday, 30 September 2005 11:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tim (Tim), Friday, 30 September 2005 11:56 (eighteen years ago) link
OK it’s fifty years later, we had a great time. I am going back to Ghent. Anyone have any strong recommendations?
― Tim, Sunday, 14 January 2018 17:04 (six years ago) link
It's been over 10 years since I've been there but the Dr. Guislain museum (a former psychiatric ward) has an excellent collection of outsider arthttp://www.museumdrguislain.be/en
― willem, Sunday, 14 January 2018 18:32 (six years ago) link
Failed to get there this weekend but halfway through the weekend we decided there was so much we wanted to do (and eat and drink) that we will return at some point. Ghent's a great place to visit.
― Tim, Monday, 22 January 2018 10:14 (six years ago) link
Failed to get to the Guislain museum, I mean - it's a shame because my wife's all about museums of medical history. Next time. Thanks for the tip, Willem.
― Tim, Monday, 22 January 2018 10:15 (six years ago) link
Real tru players call it 'Gaunt' btw
― But doctor, I am Camille Paglia (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 22 January 2018 10:21 (six years ago) link
My people are not the real tru players, happily. My people are the fake fake players.
― Tim, Monday, 22 January 2018 10:29 (six years ago) link
did u not make a resolution to cut fake ppl out of your life in 2018
― But doctor, I am Camille Paglia (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 22 January 2018 10:39 (six years ago) link
I should go to Ghent, passed through the station on way to Bruges several times- and you get a pretty impressive vista just from the train.
― But doctor, I am Camille Paglia (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 22 January 2018 10:41 (six years ago) link
Ghent is really great IMO, everything that Bruges has to offer and more because of the large university, meaning life after 7pm #TeamGhent
― Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Monday, 22 January 2018 10:51 (six years ago) link
I am cutting the real fake people out of my life, and I am having a think about the fake real people. The fake fake people have always been my people.
ANYWAY part of the attraction of Ghent for me is how easy and quick it is to get to from London on the train. I think it's slightly quicker / easier to go London -> Brussels -> Ghent than it is to go London -> Lille -> Ghent. Given the distances involved this seems counterintuitive to me but it seems correct, unless there's a quick and cheap rail route from Lille to Ghent that I'm missing.
Outside of the fairly obvious places you could find in the guidebooks, we went to a wine bar called Alberte near Dampoort where the food and the wine were outstanding, I'd recommend the place to anyone.
― Tim, Monday, 22 January 2018 10:54 (six years ago) link
And you can travel onwards from Brussels anywhere in Belgium for free with a eurostar ticket- don't think similar applies if you get off at Lille.
― But doctor, I am Camille Paglia (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 22 January 2018 10:57 (six years ago) link
Right - though it's not any Eurostar Ticket, you have to buy an "any Belgian Station" ticket, so there is a premium compared to just going to Brussels or Lille. But yeah a return from Lille to Ghent seems to cost like 17 euro, so the any Belgian station option would work out cheaper overall. It just seems weird that it takes about the same time to get a direct train from Lille to Ghent (about an hour and a quarter) as it does to stay on the train to Brussels and get a train back west to Ghent.
On the plus side, we had a few hours in Brussels, always a pleasure. This time we went to the weird bourgeois toytown burb of Woluwe-St-Pierre to see the outside of this place: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoclet_Palace and the inside of this place: http://wittockiana.org/en/ , both amazing.
― Tim, Monday, 22 January 2018 11:08 (six years ago) link
Eurostar direct rail services between London and Amsterdam will begin on 4 April, the company has announced, in an eagerly awaited move expected to spark a price war with airlines.Tickets for the two daily trains – starting from £35 one way – will go on sale on 20 February. The services will allow passengers to travel from St Pancras station in central London direct to the Netherlands in three to four hours.More than 4 million passengers a year fly between London and Amsterdam, making it one of Europe’s busiest air routes as the Netherlands grows in popularity as a key business and tourism hub.The cross-Channel rail operator is set to challenge established airlines on the route, including British Airways, easyJet and Ryanair. It will target potential converts by saying a London-Amsterdam Eurostar journey emits 80% less carbon than the equivalent flight.Plans for the service were first announced in September 2013 but the official start date has been subject to numerous delays while immigration and passport controls were agreed.These issues mean direct services returning to London will not be in place until the end of next year. Passengers travelling from Amsterdam and Rotterdam will have to connect through Brussels for passport controls and security screening until the two governments complete an agreement allowing passport checks to be conducted in the Netherlands.Nicolas Petrovic, the outgoing chief executive of Eurostar, said the Netherlands service heralded a new era in international high-speed rail. “With direct services from the UK to the Netherlands, France and Belgium, we are transforming the links between the UK and three of Europe’s top trading nations.”The launch follows the completion of testing on the Dutch high-speed network and construction of Eurostar terminals in Amsterdam and Rotterdam. The journey time will be 3hr 01min between London and Rotterdam and 3hr 41min between London and Amsterdam.
Tickets for the two daily trains – starting from £35 one way – will go on sale on 20 February. The services will allow passengers to travel from St Pancras station in central London direct to the Netherlands in three to four hours.
More than 4 million passengers a year fly between London and Amsterdam, making it one of Europe’s busiest air routes as the Netherlands grows in popularity as a key business and tourism hub.
The cross-Channel rail operator is set to challenge established airlines on the route, including British Airways, easyJet and Ryanair. It will target potential converts by saying a London-Amsterdam Eurostar journey emits 80% less carbon than the equivalent flight.
Plans for the service were first announced in September 2013 but the official start date has been subject to numerous delays while immigration and passport controls were agreed.
These issues mean direct services returning to London will not be in place until the end of next year. Passengers travelling from Amsterdam and Rotterdam will have to connect through Brussels for passport controls and security screening until the two governments complete an agreement allowing passport checks to be conducted in the Netherlands.
Nicolas Petrovic, the outgoing chief executive of Eurostar, said the Netherlands service heralded a new era in international high-speed rail. “With direct services from the UK to the Netherlands, France and Belgium, we are transforming the links between the UK and three of Europe’s top trading nations.”
The launch follows the completion of testing on the Dutch high-speed network and construction of Eurostar terminals in Amsterdam and Rotterdam. The journey time will be 3hr 01min between London and Rotterdam and 3hr 41min between London and Amsterdam.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/feb/09/eurostar-to-launch-london-amsterdam-direct-service-in-april
This is such great news.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 9 February 2018 13:59 (six years ago) link
It is. The changing at Brussels on the way back is a stupid pain mind (unless one can pop off at Centraal for a swifty in the Mort Subite obv).
― Tim, Friday, 9 February 2018 14:03 (six years ago) link
That is a pain. Hope they'll sort that soon.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 9 February 2018 14:06 (six years ago) link
This has sorted visiting my London mate in June and planning something for his birthday.
― call me by your name..or Finn (fionnland), Friday, 9 February 2018 14:32 (six years ago) link
Amsterdam FAP on May 3rd or 4th? Paging all ilxors.
― Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Friday, 12 April 2019 14:33 (four years ago) link
I'll know next week if I can make it on the 3rd!
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 12 April 2019 15:13 (four years ago) link
awesome! sent u an ilxmail.
― Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Friday, 12 April 2019 15:14 (four years ago) link
let me double check the schedule but I'm 95% sure we're there on the night of the 3rd in time to go out
― Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Friday, 12 April 2019 15:15 (four years ago) link
Cool, will get back to you after the weekend
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 12 April 2019 15:20 (four years ago) link
I'm going to be in Amsterdam/NL for a week in September, would love any recommendations on food spots, beer, and other non-Amsterdam places to go for a day or two? Going with my partner and we tend to not spend a lot of time in museums on trips, but are into walking/biking around outside (getting out into some nature and coming back for a good late dinner is the sweet spot).
― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 25 July 2019 16:43 (four years ago) link
Lower your food expectations drastically. Amsterdam is one of the worst eating destinations I’ve ever been. But! You can get Surinamese food there, which is about the only good option.
De Bierkoning is possibly the best beer store in Europe.
― Deverly (Bangelo), Thursday, 25 July 2019 17:25 (four years ago) link
Noted, ty :/
― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 25 July 2019 17:30 (four years ago) link
Strong disagree with Bangelo, there's so many places that offer nice food. Will post some later on.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 25 July 2019 17:38 (four years ago) link
Thanks LBI! I'm down for some roti rolls at least.
― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 25 July 2019 17:48 (four years ago) link
this one was very good:
https://buffet-amsterdam.nl/
― bookmarkflaglink (sleeve), Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:02 (four years ago) link
There is really good Thai food in amsterdam too.
― Yerac, Thursday, 25 July 2019 18:24 (four years ago) link
Singel 404 is a lovely cafe with great sandwiches, soups, and salads for breakfast or lunch.
De Kas is a restaurant in a greenhouse in a park where some of the food is grown on site.
Cafe Modern is a slightly funky restaurant in an old bank building in Amsterdam Noord across the harbor. Set menu iirc.
If you like fine dining, Lastage was one of my favorite meals ever. Just perfect cooking in a handsome canal house setting. Not cheap, but worth it imo.
Recommendations are about 4 years old, so you may want to check more recent reviews.
― Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Thursday, 25 July 2019 19:11 (four years ago) link