The United States has the 42nd highest life expectancy in the world - Jordanians outlive Americans by six months

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Jersey, Guernsey & The Isle of Man are above it and aren't countries?

Mark C, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 09:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Israel ranking better than the US is quite frightening.

Also depressing that the entire bottom half of the list is all African nations :(

Trayce, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 09:25 (sixteen years ago) link

European Union isn't a country either. US is 41st?

Jibe, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 09:27 (sixteen years ago) link

This is only one side of the equation - years of good health are important as well.

e.g. from the UK National Statistics site:

The population of Great Britain has been living longer over the past 20 years, but the extra years have not necessarily been lived in good health. Life expectancy and healthy life expectancy (expected years of life in good or fairly good health) both increased between 1981 and 2001, with life expectancy increasing at a faster rate than healthy life expectancy.

Life expectancy is higher for females than for males. In 2001 the life expectancy at birth of females was 80.4 years compared with 75.7 years for males.

In 2001, healthy life expectancy at birth was 67.0 years for males and 68.8 years for females, a gap of 1.8 years.

The difference between life expectancy and healthy life expectancy can be regarded as an estimate of the number of years a person can expect to live in poor health. In 1981 the expected time lived in poor health for males was 6.5 years. By 2001 this had risen to 8.7 years. Females can expect to live longer in poor health than males. In 1981 the expected time lived in poor health for females was 10.1 years, rising to 11.6 years in 2001.

So it was a bit depressing during the media reporting over changes to pension age last year when people were saying things like:

"I don't mind working til 67 - after all I'm probably going to live to 90"

And lots of papers reporting that there was a "third of your life" left after retiring at 65.

Bob Six, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 09:40 (sixteen years ago) link

You'd be better off in Gabon

Tom D., Tuesday, 14 August 2007 09:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Belgium at 33. Bummah. Japan third. Quelle surprise.

nathalie, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 09:46 (sixteen years ago) link

If Jordan had millions of, say, starving uneducated malnourished Africans settling in their country, their numbers would get skewed, too.

Countries like Belgium and Japan have such high numbers because they don't have the insane 3rd world immigration countries like America do. Though our health care system is appalling and desperately needs to be fixed, people seem to forget how much of the 3rd world the US absorbs in its own population (that countries like Europe and Japan refuse to ever let near their borders).

uhrrrrrrr10, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 11:04 (sixteen years ago) link

What are you talking about?

Tom D., Tuesday, 14 August 2007 11:05 (sixteen years ago) link

that countries like Europe

LOLz

Tom D., Tuesday, 14 August 2007 11:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Australia has plenty of immigrants from Somalia and Vietnam and Papua New Guinea and oh why am I even arguing with this idiot.

Trayce, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 11:17 (sixteen years ago) link

Immigrants coming over here, taking our cemetery plots...

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 11:18 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm not sure if I even should answer that, but...

EU is not a single country, some European countries have immigration rates that are equal to the US, I think. And it's not the "starving uneducated malnourished" 3rd world people who immigrate to 1st world countries, in order to to fo that you usually have to have some cash and at least be in average condition in order to make the trip. And it's not like they import the malnourishment with them. Your country of destination should have much bigger influence on your life expectancy than the country where you came from. The biggest thing lowering life expectancy at birth in, for example, many African countries, is child mortality, so it's not like you drag your life expectancy with you when you immkigrate.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 11:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Damn straight. Filthy immigrants. grrrrr!!! though I'm sure Australia doesn't take on tens of millions every year.

Of course, it's also because America is evil. Europe is the crowning enlightenment of the world (according to themselves and Americans who like to kiss Euro ass at any chance they get).

Anyway, I'm just trolling. I work for a huge Japanese corporation in the US, and since the US is basically a free-for-all, they've decided to not pay a dime for any health care for me. Good times.

uhrrrrrrr10, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 11:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Worst troll ever.

Trayce, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 11:24 (sixteen years ago) link

Rank amateurism

Tom D., Tuesday, 14 August 2007 11:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Trolling is like being a goth. Admitting it is resigning yourself to being no good at it, denying it continually (like Eldritch, or Alex in NYC) is a sure-fire sign you're quality.

aldo, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 11:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Nah, my best trolling years are behind me but it comes out by accident, even on the subway.

uhrrrrrrr10, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 11:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Using the same site, Canada's net migration rate is 5.79/1000 compared to 3.05/1000 for the US. Australia's is 3.78/1000.

Sundar, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 14:12 (sixteen years ago) link

(I'm assuming net migration refers to immigration not to people leaving?)

Sundar, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 14:13 (sixteen years ago) link

YOU CAN PROVE ANYTHING WITH FACTS.

aldo, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 14:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Proof if proof be need be...

Tom D., Tuesday, 14 August 2007 14:27 (sixteen years ago) link

it's the dirty, thieving French

http://www.clipartguide.com/_small/0060-0503-0413-2137.jpg

uhrrrrrrr10, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 14:28 (sixteen years ago) link

look at him. thinking he's so much better than you. what, you not gonna stand up for yourslef? let some frenchman push you around liek that? pussy

uhrrrrrrr10, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 14:29 (sixteen years ago) link

some of those places are artificially high on the list cuz people go there to retire

Maria :D, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 14:29 (sixteen years ago) link

or maybe that doesn't make sense - fallacious argument. I guess having more old people wouldn't necessary bump up the average life expectancy. But you might say that healthier seniors would tend to move somewhere like the cayman islands.

Maria :D, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 14:32 (sixteen years ago) link

The U.S. would be in 84th place, but my grandmother messed up the curve.

Rock Hardy, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 14:33 (sixteen years ago) link

some of those places are artificially high on the list cuz people go there to retire

My parents moved from Belgium to Japan. They are planning to stay there until they die at the age of 142 years old.

nathalie, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 14:35 (sixteen years ago) link

I love the way with lists like this the game is to find the most comedic country with a higher life expectancy than the USA. And there aren't really that many... if Niger had a higher life expectancy than the USA then yes, it would be time to worry, but the USA only really has other first world countries ahead of it (and Jordan), so big mickey.

The Real Dirty Vicar, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 14:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Israel ranking better than the US is quite frightening.

socialised health care strikes again?

The Real Dirty Vicar, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 14:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Yes, believe it or not, Jordan is fairly civilised (xpost)

Tom D., Tuesday, 14 August 2007 14:58 (sixteen years ago) link

We beat Denmark.

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 15:00 (sixteen years ago) link

... it's all that lager, bacon and butter

Tom D., Tuesday, 14 August 2007 15:00 (sixteen years ago) link

BTW no African country is even in the top ten contributors to the US foreign-born population.

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 15:06 (sixteen years ago) link

A charticle/graph showing the rate of obesity and heart disease for each country would be revealing.

Dandy Don Weiner, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 16:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Hey uhrrrrrrr10 you americans ought to conquer Andorra and take over their health riches

ps. It's not the starving immigrants, Americans are unhealthy because they can't stop stuffing their mouths

Heave Ho, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 23:43 (sixteen years ago) link

who cares how long you live? would you rather live to be 120 in north korea or live to be 40 in new york city? fucking quality over quantity motherfuckers!!!

chicago kevin, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 23:50 (sixteen years ago) link

myself i'm looking forward to my booze and coke induced heart attack at 35 next year.

chicago kevin, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 23:51 (sixteen years ago) link

AMERICANS SUCK AT LIFE.

The Brainwasher, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 23:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Americans also work more hours than people in most of those countries (which does not necessarily contradict what Brainwasher said).

Hurting 2, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 01:04 (sixteen years ago) link

I think Australians are as obese as Americans these days?

W4LTER, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 01:10 (sixteen years ago) link

you should see kids in the uk these days, bunch of fatties

zappi, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 01:26 (sixteen years ago) link

eleven years pass...

good news, everyone!

Lifespan 2040: US down, China up, Spain on top

Life expectancy in 2040 is set to rise at least a little in all nations but the rankings will change dramatically, with Spain taking the top spot while China and the United States trade places, researchers said Wednesday....

In a shift that will be seen by some to reflect a superpower changing-of-the-guard, the world's two largest economies effectively swap positions compared to 2016: in 2040 the US drops from 43rd to 64th (79.8 years), while China rises from 68th to 39th (81.9 years).

https://www.france24.com/en/20181017-lifespan-2040-us-down-china-spain-top

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 14:11 (five years ago) link


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