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high praise from this review:

foxy digitalis : reviews: Grouper "Dragging a Dead Deer Up a Hill"
http://www.foxydigitalis.com/foxyd/reviews.php?which=3440

"This is an amazing album that will most likely remain a highlight release for the year. " 10/10

djmartian, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 15:28 (ten years ago) Permalink

'grouper' CDR EP - (heavier noiser mixes of her first recordings, most of these were remixed for the first album)
'way their crept' LP - still my favorite, her harmonies & the absurd levels of tape delay bury the songs but the songs are still there
'he knows he knows he knows' EP - like the 1st LP, just as great
'wide' LP - follows on from the first LP, heavier & spacier and more intense, maybe a less instantly memorable group of songs but I need to go back and check
'flashlights: eckords' - collaboration with violinist jorge boehringer, very very very spaced
xiu xiu vs. grouper - 'creepshow' - haven't heard
'cover the windows and walls' EP - only have mp3s of this so haven't spent as much time with it -- never even saw this in stores, but it's songs
'dragging a dead deer up a hill' LP - this is going to do very well for her, she's pulled back on the delays but everything still sounds covered in silt and her songwriting has taken a jump forward

she's one to watch

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 18:00 (ten years ago) Permalink

Ok, I finally listened to the rest of the songs for the first time, and yes, they're all great. Not enough have just straight up said "What a graceful voice", and they should. This is peaceful death music, I love it.

I predict I will post about this again on August 3rd of this year, because that's the day I finally get back home. And when I arrive, there's going to be a small pile of her records because I'm going to have to drunkenly order a good half of those LPs and EPs Milton just mentioned. Not the Xiu Xiu one, though.

Z S, Monday, 23 June 2008 06:26 (ten years ago) Permalink

I'm going to save the S-word too - Slowdive. This wouldn't be out of place on Pygmalion.

Z S, Monday, 23 June 2008 06:28 (ten years ago) Permalink

I will also say it.

Z S, Monday, 23 June 2008 06:39 (ten years ago) Permalink

If this was a dude, you wouldn't care

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Monday, 23 June 2008 06:43 (ten years ago) Permalink

Well, at least I still get to care about something, which is a nice consolation prize.

Z S, Monday, 23 June 2008 06:50 (ten years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Yeah, still fucking awesome.
This is off the newest one:

Heavy Water/I'd Rather be Sleeping

and I have two other (better) songs from Dragging a Dead Deer up a Hill here:
http://headofstate.muxtape.com/

And this is a little older.
HERE

Z S, Saturday, 19 July 2008 07:02 (ten years ago) Permalink

got new lp in the other day

Herman G. Neuname, Saturday, 19 July 2008 10:29 (ten years ago) Permalink

I missed buying that Dragging A Dead Deer album, can't find it anywhere. Any leads?

sleeve, Saturday, 19 July 2008 17:12 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://www.boomkat.com/search.cfm?q=grouper

Z S, Monday, 21 July 2008 06:05 (ten years ago) Permalink

There's a dude here in Portland who's just as good as Grouper. His project is called Dragging An Ox Through Water.

Nate Carson, Monday, 21 July 2008 09:22 (ten years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Finally got the new one today...So amazing. Like, one of the best things I've heard all year. Its been a long time since I've been able to just sit down and let an album wash over me, but this has done it. "Stuck" in particular just makes me swoon. The melodies on this are amazing! I just ordered the re-release of the split with Inca Ore from Aquarius. Can't wait.

jonathan - stl, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 02:07 (ten years ago) Permalink

Is very good, that new one.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 02:10 (ten years ago) Permalink

what is it called?

sleeve, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 02:12 (ten years ago) Permalink

"Dragging A Dead Deer Up A Hill"

Best album title ever too!!!

jonathan - stl, Tuesday, 30 September 2008 02:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

I just ordered the re-release of the split with Inca Ore from Aquarius. Can't wait.

Have you got it yet? Is it good? Did you order it from her website? How much was it?

Yeah, I'm still really, really into the new one. It only sounds better as it gets colder and more leaves fall off the trees.

Z S, Sunday, 5 October 2008 19:52 (ten years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

nice

czn (cozwn), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 13:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

vaguely recall a mention on ILX and an Inca Ore connection (blown away Ms. Saelens live recently, her LP one of few sweet spots of '08 for me)...

must investigate further!

also, this Grouper LP punching well above it's weight in obscurity here http://rateyourmusic.com/charts/top/album/2008

fandango, Sunday, 14 December 2008 08:26 (ten years ago) Permalink

The inca ore and grouper split is from 2007. It's ok, sort of a bridge between her first records and the minimalistic approach of guitar/voice style that she used on 'dragging a dead dear'.

Moka, Sunday, 14 December 2008 09:10 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/inca_ore___grouper/split/

Moka, Sunday, 14 December 2008 09:11 (ten years ago) Permalink

Has anybody deciphered the lyrics to 'heavy water/I'd rather be sleeping'? - so far I can only make up: 'love is enormous / it's lifting me up / i'd rather be sleeping / i'd rather fall in your tidal waves / right where the deepest currents pull'

Moka, Monday, 22 December 2008 07:25 (ten years ago) Permalink

this album ! :-O

really really good.

fandango, Monday, 22 December 2008 22:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

If this was a dude, you wouldn't care

― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Monday, June 23, 2008 2:43 AM

(Z S) (Z S), Monday, 22 December 2008 22:42 (ten years ago) Permalink

If she was a dude she would still be 1000x more interesting than Fleet Fuxxes

fandango, Monday, 22 December 2008 22:46 (ten years ago) Permalink

^^real talk. 'Dead Deer' is on my top ten list of the year, but I don't know what she looks like (if looks are what's implied). And well, imagining the vocals as coming from a he, well that's just silly.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 22 December 2008 23:17 (ten years ago) Permalink

btw, I wasn't quoting that as in "I agree with this", I was quoting that as in http://i44.tinypic.com/2mhvo8j.jpg

(Z S) (Z S), Monday, 22 December 2008 23:58 (ten years ago) Permalink

I want to say something about how this album unfolds it's pleasures like a flower, at about the same speed, without it sounding dirty.

Possibly the most gorgously intimate and non "produced" sounding thing I've heard all year too. She might as well be in the room.

fandango, Sunday, 28 December 2008 23:03 (ten years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

This goes down well with a copy of Chris Ware's graphic novel The Smartest Kid on Earth and my Mom's fried boneless fish.

dreamsonvhs, Saturday, 11 April 2009 07:34 (nine years ago) Permalink

If this was a dude, you wouldn't care

Plenty of us care about Sonic Boom!

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Saturday, 11 April 2009 09:06 (nine years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

I picked this up on a whim today from amazon's mp3 store, where it's on sale for $1.99. It's remarkably gorgeous!

Euler, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 14:53 (nine years ago) Permalink

by "this" I mean the Dragging a Dead Deer album

Euler, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 14:53 (nine years ago) Permalink

Deeply amused by "fart alert"

Shannon Whirry & the Bad Brains, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 16:55 (nine years ago) Permalink

That's a damn good price (I paid $14.99 retail) and almost makes me want to switch over to buying in digital format... but not really. xpost

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 29 April 2009 17:41 (nine years ago) Permalink

That's exactly my sentiment, ilxor. But if a crazy low price like that leads to more people getting into her music, it's all for the better. She deserves it.

Gerard (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 29 April 2009 17:44 (nine years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Baffling, pointless review on Tinymixtapes of the live show:

The show is sold out, but most fans are waiting to pile in after the opening act, Grouper — a one-woman showcase of bullshit. Imagine Enya making airport symphonies for hipsters. I try to salvage something from the fuzzy reverb and her long, lonely wails, but I can’t stop picturing her masturbating in front of a full-length mirror. Self-indulgence, indeed.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 12 June 2009 04:12 (nine years ago) Permalink

...but you write for tinymixtapes.com

ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Z S), Friday, 12 June 2009 04:14 (nine years ago) Permalink

ugh.

original bgm, Friday, 12 June 2009 16:38 (nine years ago) Permalink

...but you write for tinymixtapes.com

Really? That's news to me!

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 12 June 2009 18:14 (nine years ago) Permalink

if you're going to choose such an ambiguous username...

suggestzybandias (jim), Friday, 12 June 2009 18:16 (nine years ago) Permalink

Hahaha, no no, that was meant as a response to the reviewer, for some reason. I saw my comment this morning and wondered what the hell I was talking about, because I don't really have any beef with tinymixtapes.com.

That AOL sonned thread has me thinking about who I do and do not have beefs with today.

ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Z S), Friday, 12 June 2009 18:21 (nine years ago) Permalink

it's kinda weird with reviews like that where you can't tell if the reviewer is trying to be funny... or if they're just trying to come up with the most awe-inspiring humorless zings to satisfy their explosive rage at the act in question.

guammls (QE II), Friday, 12 June 2009 19:58 (nine years ago) Permalink

I don't really mind Enya as a reference (Enya is pretty awesome imo tho) and I have been digging pretty heavily on Dead Deer for the last couple weeks.

❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉Plaxico❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉ (I know, right?), Friday, 12 June 2009 20:01 (nine years ago) Permalink

Enya making airport symphonies for hipsters is the kind of stuff my friends say about the downtempo balearic cheeze i listen to. it kind of goes hand in hand with "elevator music for grad students", a term which used to bug me but i think i'm ok with it know

guammls (QE II), Friday, 12 June 2009 20:13 (nine years ago) Permalink

Hahaha, no no, that was meant as a response to the reviewer, for some reason.

Ah, makes sense now. I laughed out loud. Nice one.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 12 June 2009 20:36 (nine years ago) Permalink

WAY THEIR CREPT and DRAGGING A DEAD DEER are two of my favorite records right now. Is there any other stuff out there like this? Melodic, atmospheric, experimental, droning, and emotional?

dreamsonvhs, Friday, 12 June 2009 23:37 (nine years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

this album is kinda staggered by the one two punch of heavy water and stuck

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 21:55 (nine years ago) Permalink

dead deer obv

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 21:55 (nine years ago) Permalink

I really wish we could edit the title of this thread!

PIN number at the ATM Machine (Z S), Wednesday, 12 August 2009 22:05 (nine years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Video for HOLD THE WAY

http://www.thefader.com/2009/10/07/video-grouper-hold-the-way/

dreamsonvhs, Thursday, 8 October 2009 16:50 (nine years ago) Permalink

Per the PR guff:

Opaque assemblages of Mellotron, guitar, field recordings, tapes, and broken FX pedals by Pacific Northwest musician Liz Harris, created during and after two contrasting residencies in the Azores, Portugal and Murmansk, Russia, combined with pieces made at home in Astoria, Oregon.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 February 2019 17:07 (one month ago) Permalink

can't waaaaaait to get home from work today!

Karl Malone, Friday, 8 February 2019 17:13 (one month ago) Permalink

i love how the track lengths go down to milliseconds

0 - 7:48:544 Cloudmouth
7:48:544 - 8:19:489 blue room
8:17:503 - 11:27:011 Night-walking
11:27:011 -16:41:254 Funeral song
16:41:254 - 26:00:991 Thirteen (version)
26:00:991 - 28:39:125 Crying jar
28:39:125 - 29:29:394 Entry
29:29:394 - 37:33:056 Walking in a spiral towards the house
37:30:846 - end Weightless

Walking in a spiral towards the house

0 - 3:14:509 Night-walking
3:14:509 - 8:37:153 Funeral song
8:37:153 - 12:59:510 Thirteen
12:59:510 - end Walking in a spiral towards the house

Karl Malone, Friday, 8 February 2019 17:14 (one month ago) Permalink

also very interesting how the "nightwalking>funeral song>thirteen" sequence is repeated twice (once per LP)

Karl Malone, Friday, 8 February 2019 17:16 (one month ago) Permalink

Damn!

flappy bird, Friday, 8 February 2019 17:26 (one month ago) Permalink

can't waaaaaait to get home from work today!

― Karl Malone

otm, although I have a record show to hit first so this will have to wait a bit

sound amazing!

sleeve, Friday, 8 February 2019 17:34 (one month ago) Permalink

Ordered the double LP sight unseen / sound unheard. Can't wait.

flappy bird, Friday, 8 February 2019 18:49 (one month ago) Permalink

has no one else listened to it yet? of all days where i had to stay 3 hours late at work...

putting it on (aka 'clicking the bandcamp button') now!

Karl Malone, Saturday, 9 February 2019 04:32 (one month ago) Permalink

also i just remembered that i'm seeing her play next week (for the first time), so hopefully i'll be able to pick this up at the show!

Karl Malone, Saturday, 9 February 2019 04:36 (one month ago) Permalink

this is very ambient even by her standards, only "Cloudmouth" really resembles her usual work

not really sure what the intention is for Walking In A Spiral Towards the House to be mostly repeats of tracks from After Its Own Death, only track that isn't is the alternate version of "Thirteen"

ufo, Saturday, 9 February 2019 04:41 (one month ago) Permalink

i haven't made it to the second LP yet, but i was assuming they'd be different versions of the tracks that appeared on the first LP? i'm really enjoying the vibraphones on 'night-walking' and 'funeral song' so far.

Karl Malone, Saturday, 9 February 2019 04:43 (one month ago) Permalink

they're all the same except "thirteen" which swaps out the guitars on the first LP's version for more of the vibraphones that are everywhere else

ufo, Saturday, 9 February 2019 04:49 (one month ago) Permalink

oh, bummer! well, i'll cross that road when i get to it (in about 20 minutes)

sounds like you weren't a fan of it, overall? i have to say, i'm really really enjoying the first side of LP1, but i also like super ambient stuff.

Karl Malone, Saturday, 9 February 2019 04:54 (one month ago) Permalink

but yeah, i could understand the criticism that it's just a bunch of super reverbed out vibraphones. it is that, a lot of the time. i must admit that i played percussion in middle/high school, and i always really enjoyed my time after school, by myself, just holding down the vibraphone pedal and playing lots of chords in a row. i would do that for a really long time, just playing chords and listening to them slowly dissipate. a lot of this kind of brings me back into that happy zone, but it probably wouldn't have that effect on everyone

Karl Malone, Saturday, 9 February 2019 04:57 (one month ago) Permalink

i think it'll be pretty nice music to fall asleep to but nothing much more than that for me. the second LP being mostly a condensed version of the first is a weird choice but looking as it as "two slightly different versions of the same thing" rather than "one album across two LPs" is how i'm trying to understand it

ufo, Saturday, 9 February 2019 05:04 (one month ago) Permalink

yeah, i'm listening to the second LP now and i see what you mean. it's kinda weird, because even if i end up preferring the versions of the songs which appear on the second LP, they appear without the context of the other songs that appear on the first LP, which i also enjoy.

Karl Malone, Saturday, 9 February 2019 05:19 (one month ago) Permalink

re: it being more ambient than her usual work - how close is it to Dream Loss? I ordered the record and am going to wait to listen.

flappy bird, Saturday, 9 February 2019 05:33 (one month ago) Permalink

"Cloudmouth" is pretty similar to Dream Loss but a pretty significant part of the album is indeed a lot of super reverbed out vibraphones, without her usual vocals.

I think the "Thirteen" on the second LP might just be a fragment of the longer version on the first? the second LP seems to just collect all the echoey vibraphone tracks together in one place

ufo, Saturday, 9 February 2019 05:49 (one month ago) Permalink

that's an interesting comparison to make...

it's less distorted than dream loss, more clear, less reverb and echo. the instrumentation is much more limited - most of it is just vibraphones, with occasional guitar. there's not much singing on it, other than the first track and a few seconds at the very end. the tracks run together, so it pretty much plays as one long piece (repeated in abridged form on the second LP). i think it's more ambient in the eno sense of blending into the background. i need to listen to it again, obviously, but i can already imagine that i will play it as music for writing or making stuff.

xp

Karl Malone, Saturday, 9 February 2019 05:52 (one month ago) Permalink

sounds cool! very curious about her working with vibraphones

flappy bird, Saturday, 9 February 2019 05:52 (one month ago) Permalink

i guess, yeah, it is super reverbed out vibraphones. but dream loss (and so much of grouper's music) is SUPER reverbed out, so it seems more direct and clear to me in comparison.

Karl Malone, Saturday, 9 February 2019 05:54 (one month ago) Permalink

anyone recognize this song?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBE08ybWZ_U

flappy bird, Saturday, 9 February 2019 07:15 (one month ago) Permalink

new helen when

J. Sam, Saturday, 9 February 2019 22:19 (one month ago) Permalink

wow flappy, that song is gorgeous. sounds kind of like "Water People" but darker

J. Sam, Saturday, 9 February 2019 22:23 (one month ago) Permalink

I was at that (incredibly excellent) show. Not my video; glad someone got it.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 9 February 2019 22:28 (one month ago) Permalink

I had to stop listening to Grouper when I realized how many creeps there are out there whose entire personality consists of “listens to Grouper”

flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 10 February 2019 15:51 (one month ago) Permalink

I have yet to meet a Grouper groupie

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Sunday, 10 February 2019 15:57 (one month ago) Permalink

You are fortunate

flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 10 February 2019 16:59 (one month ago) Permalink

lol. they can't all be bad

calumy (rip van wanko), Sunday, 10 February 2019 17:47 (one month ago) Permalink

Only takes a couple to really spoil it! That said, this new album is refreshing in its pivot away from obscurantism-- "Grid Of Points" made me wonder if she was gradually moving toward entire albums of untouched, unprocessed single-take field recordings. Not the case! I don't know if I like this Nivhek thing more or less than the more clouded stuff but it's definitely good good good

flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 10 February 2019 21:12 (one month ago) Permalink

the Helen album is really good

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Sunday, 10 February 2019 21:18 (one month ago) Permalink

Love the Helen album as much as the late 80s early 90s indie pop it resembles

Evan, Monday, 11 February 2019 01:10 (one month ago) Permalink

always happy to have new music from Liz but i hope someday we get a new Mirrorring album

alpine static, Monday, 11 February 2019 02:18 (one month ago) Permalink

First listen and I'm IN in a big way.

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Thursday, 14 February 2019 15:37 (one month ago) Permalink

anyone know the set time for Friday’s show. billed as an afterparty, but doors at 7:30?

by the light of the burning Citroën, Thursday, 14 February 2019 15:44 (one month ago) Permalink

oh this new one is excellent.

calzino, Thursday, 14 February 2019 15:51 (one month ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

....... this is tight
damn

flappy bird, Thursday, 7 March 2019 06:08 (one week ago) Permalink

I keep forgetting I'm listening to Grouper because I'm not

flappy bird, Thursday, 7 March 2019 06:08 (one week ago) Permalink

the show in chicago a few weeks ago, at the athletic association, was so, so good. first time i saw her play live. i went in expecting a great show and was still still unexpectedly blown away. she played a new song, an acoustic/reverb one in line with D a D D up a H, that i'm guessing flappy b referenced or posted above somewhere, that was on par with the best of her work

Karl Malone, Thursday, 7 March 2019 06:20 (one week ago) Permalink

I'm glad I listened to the black record first. the white record, the 45rpm one, feels like a bonus disc at best but is it the one that's sequenced first in the digital? there are no markings on the LP at all, not even in the runoff grooves (besides her usual aphorisms).

flappy bird, Saturday, 9 March 2019 22:07 (one week ago) Permalink

Hey the vinyl is back on the bandcamp for those that missed it:

https://grouper.bandcamp.com/album/after-its-own-death-walking-in-a-spiral-towards-the-house

Evan, Thursday, 14 March 2019 17:35 (five days ago) Permalink


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