50 great things about Fleetwood Mac's "Tusk"

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I was not unguilty of using it

― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 29 October 2004 04:37 (nineteen years ago) link

You were duly shamed, I trust.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 29 October 2004 04:39 (nineteen years ago) link

whoa -- ten unread posts. sorry, ILX crapped out for a second so I went away. Anyway, no Ned -- I'd never deny discovering more common stuff years after the fact; I mention it on ILM all the time! I just didn't get the weird arrogance of reviving this thread solely in order to put another record down. That's the part I don't get. That's the reason I largely consider you sort of foolish in general. and yeah, when you do champion a buncha flat-out garbage at the expense of a lot of stuff that people with ears have sort of known and loved and found the good in for ages, it does sort of make you appear a buffoon. heck, I'm no Van fan. It's funny -- a lot of people are! they'll go on about The Poet's Champion's Confession or whatever whichever new album is called. I really couldn't care less. But I like Astral primarily for that great backing; great arrangements. Richard Davis on bass? Connie Kay on drums? Jay Berliner on guitar? shiiiiiit, dog -- I'm there!! which is sort of funny, too, when you talk about rich listening. cuz, see, the thing is, I've played instruments and seen tons of live musicians in improvisational contexts and I can pretty firmly tell ya that those guys are good'uns. I never get the sense from your writing that you know WHAT the heck is going on in a particular instrumental performance. hence, love of mommy's tum-tum music and so forth. but whatever, taste is taste. Keep on keepin' on, friend.

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 29 October 2004 04:48 (nineteen years ago) link

I just didn't get the weird arrogance of reviving this thread solely in order to put another record down.

Actually I was going to revive it anyway, that just happened to be the last post so I was amused. As for everything else, decaf, dude! You'll find it helps you avoid your imminent coronaries.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 29 October 2004 04:59 (nineteen years ago) link

(And really, begging for me to give you a 'serious' answer with all the insults is the easiest way to get me to laugh. You're so cute when you insist you've found God and I haven't!)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 29 October 2004 05:03 (nineteen years ago) link

the way you guys feud makes me think of all of the strife in fleetwood mac at the time of their great double album Tusk.

― peter smith (plsmith), Friday, 29 October 2004 13:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Bags being Stevie

― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 29 October 2004 13:06 (nineteen years ago) link

I'll go for Mick, I appreciate his height.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 29 October 2004 13:09 (nineteen years ago) link

is this a great double thread?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 29 October 2004 14:23 (nineteen years ago) link

five months pass...

"Reeeeal savage-like"

― PB, Tuesday, 12 April 2005 13:22 (nineteen years ago) link

"I wanna be a star...I don't wanna be a cleaning woman...."

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 13:27 (nineteen years ago) link

How "Brown Eyes" and "Never Make Me Cry" are actually the same song: the beginning and end of a love affair, moistened by weird electronic Eno treatments on the latter that's like looking at your lover after a few glasses of wine and tearing up.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 13:30 (nineteen years ago) link

This thread made me put the album on just now. Christine beats Stevie like rock beats scissors, but the restrained Stevie songs on this are great ("Storms," "Beautiful Child").

I didn't know about the 2CD reissue until just now. Will acquire toot sweet.

― Curious George (1/6 Scale Model) (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 13:59 (nineteen years ago) link

The way the bass and treble (or is it two treble?) piano hook at the beginning of "Sara" come out of the left and right channels. Amazing arrangement and production.

― PB, Tuesday, 12 April 2005 14:04 (nineteen years ago) link

ALL the backing vocal sounds being uncomfortably intimate

also, "What can they say / It's not against the law"

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 14:36 (nineteen years ago) link

I lost the first disc of the re-issue. :(((( I am pretty sure I slipped it into some other CD case some time when I was driving in the last few months. But which one? I am thinking this is going to turn up some day here when I really need it the most.

Anyone else think "Angel" is the best Stevie Nicks song?

― Scott CE (Scott CE), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 14:41 (nineteen years ago) link

No, that would be Beautiful Child

― Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 14:48 (nineteen years ago) link

"Walk a Thin Line" has some of my favorite vocal arrangements ever.

― jason., Tuesday, 12 April 2005 15:21 (nineteen years ago) link

YES.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 15:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Wasn't Tusk the first album to be returned platinum???

― peepee (peepee), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 15:40 (nineteen years ago) link

It's certified double platinum, but it's difficult to tell how much it actually sold since (a) it's a double album (b) it's the pre-Soundscan era.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 16:17 (nineteen years ago) link

But it was either Tusk or Captain Fantastic... which initially sold so much less than anticipated that the record company got over a million returns.

― peepee (peepee), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 16:40 (nineteen years ago) link

I think that 2x platinum number is actual units, Alfred, as I heard Tusk went 4x platinum, which prob. refers to the number of LPs sold.

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 16:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Lindsey told me Tusk sold three million in America.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 11:00 (nineteen years ago) link

The inside cover photograph where Lindsey seems the center of universe gravity, as all the members are either looking or clinging to him.

― 57 7th (calstars), Thursday, 14 April 2005 21:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Plus he's the only one who looks 1979, as opposed to all the others who evidently still think it's 1971.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 15 April 2005 05:10 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't know if that double album = two sales toward certification rule was in effect back then.

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Friday, 15 April 2005 07:34 (nineteen years ago) link

"Wasn't Tusk the first album to be returned platinum???"

Huh? How do you mean returned?

― nathalie doing a soft foot shuffle (stevie nixed), Friday, 15 April 2005 07:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Plus he's the only one who looks 1979, as opposed to all the others who evidently still think it's 1971

But Mac has a tracksuit of some kind on!

― 57 7th (calstars), Friday, 15 April 2005 12:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Jogging was the "in" thing then! Have you never seen the hilarious John Travolta/Jamie Lee Curtis comedy Perfect?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 15 April 2005 12:06 (nineteen years ago) link

cheerleaders

― dontsaythatyouloveme boyclub girls, Friday, 15 April 2005 12:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Jogging was the "in" thing then! Have you never seen the hilarious John Travolta/Jamie Lee Curtis comedy Perfect?
-- Marcello Carlin (marcellocarli...), April 15th, 2005.

1 inspired eric prydz "call on me "
2 soundtrack contains the brilliant - jermaine jackson / pia zadora "when the rain begins to fall"

― dontsaythatyouloveme boyclub girls, Friday, 15 April 2005 12:18 (nineteen years ago) link

stevie dressed as a cheerleader for the "tusk" video! chingford tor ascender ahoy!

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 15 April 2005 12:19 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...

64 (are we still counting?). the beautifully placid, almost glacial, "over & over" (and for an opening track!). i like this quality in "sara" (listen to the drum & bass) too.

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 2 June 2005 02:11 (eighteen years ago) link

65. the harmonica in "i know i'm not wrong"

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 2 June 2005 02:13 (eighteen years ago) link

What ever happened to Stormy Davis? He was good for a tousle.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 2 June 2005 13:10 (eighteen years ago) link

he's around, somewhere

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 2 June 2005 15:53 (eighteen years ago) link

66. the reprise of "dont blaaaaaame me..." in "i know im not wrong."

im so glad i have this album. are s/t and rumours anywhere near as good?

― peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 14:01 (eighteen years ago) link

67. My sister used to say that the vocals in the chorus of 'Tusk' sounded like the Muppet Chorus, led by Gonzo.

― geyser muffler and a quarter (Dave225), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 14:09 (eighteen years ago) link

s/t and rumours are great!!

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 19:47 (eighteen years ago) link

(though i'm thinking lately that "then play on" is my favorite FM lp)

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 19:47 (eighteen years ago) link

hmmm... interesting...

i think ill check out the rest of the "classic period" pop albums, but maybe then ill move back to some of the peter green/blues/etc stuff.

thanks amst! that one looks really good, too. "transitional albums" pwn.

― peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 19:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Rumours > Fleetwood Mac, but both are entirely classic. Rumours is certainly in Beatles territory as far as the quality-to-popularity ratio goes.

― PB, Tuesday, 7 June 2005 20:44 (eighteen years ago) link

"thanks amst! that one looks really good, too. "transitional albums" pwn."

Which is why I defend "Mirage," Peter.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 20:48 (eighteen years ago) link

I've always had a weird pathological fascination with the number 3, and its recurrances in nature. And so I've always loved trilogies of all sorts - the IDEA of them, that is, not necessarily the content - and that extends to albums. Any consecutive trio of chronological LP that are usually lumped together, from The Stooges/Fun House/Raw Power through Low/Heroes/Lodger to Swordfishtrombones/Rain Dogs/Frank's Wild Years gives me a warm feeling. And if it's not a trilogy officially recognized as such by others, I'll happily do it myself. So, in the tradition of Bowie's "Berlin Trilogy" and Tom Waits's "Island Trilogy" and Slayer's "Rick Rubin Trilogy", I speak of Fleetwood Mac's "Off-white Trilogy", of which Tusk is the third instalment. So its very existence comforts me (even though I don't actually OWN it! so sue me!) And so, that's the 69th-or-so Great Thing about Tusk.

And yeah, I probably will buy it one of these days, since you've all made it sound most intriguing; and I do own & enjoy its two predecessors after all. I honestly don't think I've heard "Tusk" itself since it slipped off the charts 25+ years ago!

― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 02:48 (eighteen years ago) link

stevie gets sensual and doesn't know the effect she had on me.
my pants are shrinking just thinking about it.

― stevie's bf, Wednesday, 8 June 2005 03:07 (eighteen years ago) link

someone covered it
http://www.sanity.com.au/search.asp?LOC=1379&q=tusk&l=1303&f=

― stevie's bf, Wednesday, 8 June 2005 03:09 (eighteen years ago) link

semi-OT: i've never heard camper van beethoven's version, but i can tell you than dougal reed's version of Rumours is shocking tripe except for "second hand news".

― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 03:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Nobody mentioned Lindsay's awesome eyeliner...

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 14:26 (eighteen years ago) link

and the cool sneakers on the cover

― The Emancipation of Baaderonixx (KERERU 4 LIFE!) (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 14:43 (eighteen years ago) link

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