The Independence of Liz Phair

My girl's gone and she don't care at all
And if she did -- I wouldn't care. Let's ball

Whatever U heard about me is true
I change the rules and do what I wanna do

Pictures, please.

yeah but I'd be cheating 'cause I really couldn't care if Liz releases a triple-disc of trombone improvisation, my presence in this thread is strictly "wtf, people are interested in Liz Phair" with a smidgen of Prince exegesis thrown in for texture

AM: yeah I suppose yr right about "Your Man" though I hear regret in it as much as anything ("I Could" being key here, as in "I'm not capable of"). but "LPWM" is not exactly what I would call loaded with self-confidence. most people I know don't go out hunting for a snarling revenge-fuck when they feel GOOD about themselves, particularly. the second stanza you quote isn't part of the main body of the song anyway, it's an add-on at the end, and it just emphasizes the bravado without actually being all that convincing, which is why it works--when you're that upset about something your pride and anger puff up and you get defensive. (like me earlier in this thread, ahem.)

(I do think it's funny that I thought "Why Can't I" was more ambiguous lyrically than it actually was--the exact opposite of what most of the people who disliked the song for being unambiguous.)

x-post Matos, I'm referring to these specific songs. I'm on the planet where we read each others posts in full and back up our arguments, ok?

"a specific line" like THE FUCKING TITLE OF THE SONG

Banana is completely OTM.

I'm still waiting for you to do the latter.

And if you re-read the sentence (and the thread) its pretty clear I'm not accusing you of anything.

By a very slight margin, but bear in mind that it cost TONS more to make and
TONS AND TONS more to promote - the return on the investment in it was
her poorest yet. So far, this has been true for each album.

> It seems like she's gained new fans to make up for those crying betrayal. It
> will hurt though when she realizes that these new fans are just as fickle as
> the indie fans.

I think she's always "traded even" - gaining (roughly) one new fan for every one
she's lost. But I think her ruin will be from the fact that it's been an expensive process, and therefore dangerous in careerist terms. She (and Capitol) really
believed that the last record would sell millions, and they spent an inordinate
amount of cash to make this happen. Barring greater success on this record,
you will either see Liz abandon music (she doesn't care enough about it for to
continue for its own sake) or totally retread.

I hate to break up the Prince dialogue but I have to track back to a point:

"Now I'm just trying to figure out if "singles" is a term that's not understood by the general population and thus needs to be defined in a NYT article."

I don't assume the general population realizes that certain songs are specifically crafted and tailored to the MOR (with top-tier artists, often with the involvement of guest writers like Diane Warren or Desmond Child) while other album tracks are by process closer to the artist's original intent.

So yes, the NYT had a good point in operationally defining "singles."

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--- A.D. Amorosi

that's much nicer than the recent indie trend of giving songs totally opaque song titles. although maybe this is not such a recent trend, and not necessarily indie either.

"One Thing She Did In the Early Days That I Miss"
"I Hate To Break Up the Prince Dialogue But I Have To Track Back To A Point"
"Although Maybe This Is Not Such A Recent Trend"
"The Whole Thing Had A Pleasing Concision To It"
"I Am Just A Big Talker and I Happen To Enjoy Spinning My Wheels"
"I Don't Know This Guy From Adam But I'll Call Him
Out"
It's About To Snap At Any Moment"
"Christ, She's On A Major"
A Diva Without Portfolio Or A Sly Genius, Depending"
Dude She's Looking For Someone To Take Care Of Her Kids"

Don't ask me to rationally defend this distinction, because I can't, but there it is.

those are great song titles.