San Francisco and what to do in it

NtrVP: Mission Market on Mish btw 21/22 iirc

never had a prob with crusties either. they usually are only bussed in on the weekend right?

Walking down Telegraph by Berkeley Amoeba, crusty kids hanging around and all I have time to hear is the shirtless one w/guitar saying "Name ANY Sublime song and I'll play it!"

also nice: drugged man?/woman? on BART yelling at me about 4AD and the Cocteau Twins

heh - a few weeks ago I went to see my friend's new band play at the Long Haul in Berkeley (a lot of these kids were there), and there was this older guy who kept loudly exclaiming that he had crackers he'd be willing to share. The crazy old guys are more entertaining than the young crusties.

otm but they're also more likely to bother you

yeah, I asked him, "What kind of crackers?" and he proceeded to go on about them even more.

did Gene Lee ever make his way to SF, or did he pretty much stay in Oakland, after moving here from Chicago?

It's the kids getting out of school who make the most noise on the buses I take, though a bunch of us once 'politely escorted' a tweaker off the bus after he loudly exclaimed his hatred for SF 'cause it was all *various racial epithets*, fags and dykes.

^^^hmmm I was either on that bus or have ridden with same tweaker.

actually that was on of the first times I'd ridden the bus (this was the F Line on Market, during the evening commute) and this obviously flaming gay guy in blue dolphin shorts and a beanie and other weird accoutrements got on, loudly shouting any and all racial epithets and insults to everyone around him. That guy got physically thrown off the bus though and a cop was called iirc.

other people thrown off the bus: greasy junkie in leather pants (who I'd previously noticed reading a copy of some Aleister Crowley book) gets on, demanding that a "nigger" give up his seat for him. which of course didn't go over very well. gang of young black guys proceeded to throw him off the bus, kicking him in the back on his way out. dude whipped out a knife when he picked himself up, but the bus had already moved on by then.

good times!

14 Mission Bus in the middle of summer - two sweaty, filthy tweakers get on, one with no shirt (and no teeth) and long mangled black hair. Shirtless tweaker is ogling passing women out the window, shouting sexual innuendos at clearly underage teenage girls etc.

dunno how his bus ride ended, I got off a couple stops later.

damn dude, you really have all the "luck."

I won't say much or mind overmuch if you're off your meds, but it's when you think it wise to repeatedly say shit about black people when there are like 5 or 6 black dudes near you that I know you're seriously a danger to yourself and others. I was pretty happy that we just made him get off 'cause I wouldn't at all have been surprised if some one had beaten his ass.

well I've been riding the bus at least 2xday for 10+ years so ... um... yeah

I don't really ride it on the weekends anymore tho (now that I have a car and a baby), which has definitely cut down on the crazy. Mostly I only take the 27 and the 9 these days, which are fairly mellow.

On the 6 or 71, I get Haight-bound tourists, highschool students, commuters, etc... It can be pretty heteroclite.

I won't say much or mind overmuch if you're off your meds, but it's when you think it wise to repeatedly say shit about black people when there are like 5 or 6 black dudes near you that I know you're seriously a danger to yourself and others.

yeah see for me the weirdest thing was when those black guys literally kicked him off the bus... y'know, people cheered. And the black guys were all proud and strutting and bragging about it. While my feelings about it were pretty mixed. I mean, sure the guy was being a jerk but he was also clearly unbalanced, and its not like ganging up on him took any real bravery or anything... and I'm kinda not down with people beating each other in general... it left a bad taste in my mouth.

heteroclite

Michael White, teachin me new words

haha, I plugged that one into my dictionary widget myself.

I had to take the 71 and 6 (or is it the N-bus at that point?) late at night when I lived in SF - there were regular crazies that I've unfortunately forgotten

The guy who was on my bus was a tweaker, to be fair, but he just uttered a string of malicious invective like he was looking to for a confrontation and I just couldn't put up with it anymore. The dudes that kicked him off weren't just the black dudes, though one old black guy precipitated it by basically saying, "That's it. No more of this shit. You gotta get off the bus right now." A bunch of us just stood up, including a gay couple one whom loooked well-pissed, to back him up and the tweaker went from confrontational to sheepish. It was just one of those days when you're on the bus reading quietly, waiting to get home and the anti-social shit just becomes unbearable.

then there was the time some teenage black guys were shooting spitballs at the passengers in front of them. most everyone ignored them. one hit me in the back of the head and I kinda nonchalantly tossed it back in their direction, which prompted lots of "oh no he dint" and threats and the one kid who'd aimed it ran up to my seat. So he's standing over me, yelling at me about do I wanna start something or not. I try to keep calm (I'm the adult in this situation after all) and told him to shut the fuck up and go sit down. oddly, he backed off. then this older black guy started in about how he knew their mommas and they shouldn't be acting like fools etc. and everything calmed down. Not sure what I woulda done if that dude had hit me though.

Nothing like that ever happens to me, but one time a homeless guy kept shouting "GODDAMNED TALKING BUS"

sarahel, the most interesting are the Delancy Street people taking teh bus to work in the morning. They may be clean and sober but they still talk really loudly and vulgarly like street people.

on the one hand I was like, this kid is 14, maybe 16 at the oldest, and I'm pretty sure he couldn't physically hurt me very much unless he's got a weapon... otoh it seemed ridiculous to get into hypothetical "who can I beat up" scenarios...

Shakey, a cursory inspection of my own misdeeds in adolescence added to the experience of taking the bus home from work now does not leave me with a stellar opinion of teenagers.

I was coming home late night on the 71 or 6, this scary disturbed guy - one of the types that seem like they could do something violent - asked the few people around me if he could borrow their cell phones, and they all said no pretty curtly. I wanted to be nicer, so when he asked me, I said sorry...I don't have it with me. Then...I remembered that I was expecting a call. He sat across from me - nobody else around, and I basically just prayed that it wasn't going to go off.

sounds like a Seinfeld episode

I've kind of given up on being 'cool' with people on MUNI (or in the street). If they want a cigarette and I don't want to give them one, I'll simply say, "Sorry. No." I don't really owe it to them and I don't mind being kind but I hate the implication of obligation.

xp more like curb id say but lets not split hairz

xp - one of these days, I am going to get my ass kicked for rudely telling someone "no" they can't have a cig.

one of my worst Muni experiences was when these two 13 or 14 year old kids were on a packed N-Judah during morning commute, goofing around, being really loud, and pushing each other into other riders. This older office-worker lady asked them nicely to stop, and one of them said, "shut up, Coffee-breath!" (which actually cracked me up, because it was true).

Anyway, I started getting pissed after they rammed into me a few times, so when the doors opened at Civic Center, I grabbed them both and pushed them out the door, and said something like, "get the fuck OFF!".

After the doors closed, the kids were kicking the train and spitting on the windows, and the other riders were thanking me and stuff.

When I got to work, this lady I work with was like, "hey thanks for throwing those rude kids off the train this morning", and I pretty much did a facepalm knowing someone I work with saw me do that.

as someone who grew up in a chinese household, this

If I don't stand up for myself, she won't get scared.

is some unimpeachable shit

hey dyao, could you understand that Taishanese dialect or is it too thick?

haha I can't understand any of it cause I'm a native mandarin speaker (beijing dialect)

I'm v. tempted to show the video in class to my HK students and see if they can understand it...dunno if I'd get in trouble from the uni or not haha

person who smashed my car window and stole my ipod: I stab you

you left your ipod in your car?

it was in the dashboard. I was at rehearsal. but there are tweakers that live in the parking lot.

i actually left my ipod in my car in SF last night while I was eating at a taqueria in the Mission, but it wasn't in public view.

i am so anal about leaving stuff in the car. my gf got her car broken into, i believe because i left an empty pack of cigs on the floor.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/10/09/MNEI1A2O16.DTL&tsp=1

MORE MUNI BEATDOWNS

so happy I drive my (shitty) car to work in the East Bay

my car just got broken into a couple nights ago in Oakland.

i wish someone would break into my shitty car and drive it away

San Francisco and what to do in it: Get beat up on Muni and your car window smashed.

haven't had my car window smashed in SF, though I did have my trunk broken into. Caught the guy in the act of rifling through the trunk. First thing the guy said, "This is my car."

^^^lololol classic

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/10/09/MNEI1A2O16.DTL&tsp=1

this is kinda a weird story - I mean, I'm not saying the dude should have been beaten up (obviously that's ridiculous) but dude is a young latino guy, playing a street thug, and he doesn't know norteno gang colors/territory? wtf

there's been a bunch of dumb gang shit lately. thanks for releasing all those prisoners, CA budget battle!

fucking republicans.

er isn't a lot of the prisoner release stuff due to a court decision and vehemently opposed by the pubbies?

although I don't doubt that budget concerns come into play with a lot of frequent early releases, maybe the the guy involved with the shooting at 24th/shotwell the other weekend.