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It's just not Imperail ffrr without Yes She is My Skinhead Girl and Wednesday and Proud.

EDB, Sunday, 11 October 2009 12:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Must be a UK v. US thing - I don't associate those songs with Imperial f.f.r.r. at all. Good songs, but in my mind would tip the album toward a poppier vibe than it should be.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 11 October 2009 13:03 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm North American but have a UK version. Those are two of the best songs on the album, and I couldn't live without them (I guess US distributers were a bit sketched out about songs about fucking skinhead girls on sandy beaches?)

Also I was shocked to find out how bored I was by Perfect Teeth about a month ago. I spent a long time looking for a copy, and now aside from utter classics like Angel I'll walk you home, Breather xoxo and six layer cake, I can barely be bothered. Not a criticism, per se, as much as a personal feeling of disappointment.

EDB, Sunday, 11 October 2009 14:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Don't think US distribs were sketched about anything. It's just that the UK version tacked on a few contemporaneous singles that might have been hard to track down outside the States. I.e., those songs really don't properly belong on Imperial F.F.R.R. Sort of standard practice for US vs. UK releases. Most of the US Fall LPs include singles not on the original UK versions.

And, yeah, I always saw Perfect Teeth as a disappointment in the wake of Imperial. Decent record on its own merits, just a bit of a let-down in comparison.

a bleak, sometimes frightening portrait of ceiling cat (contenderizer), Sunday, 11 October 2009 16:17 (fourteen years ago) link

perfect teeth is great!

scott seward, Sunday, 11 October 2009 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link

so, is it weird that i LOVE almost everything i've heard from mark robinson since 1991 (cherry cherry single), but that i've heard very little before 1991? i mean, i just never sought it out. i love unrest, i love mark solo, i love flin flon, i love air miami, i like (maybe not love) grenadine. i think maybe i'm afraid i won't like the earlier stuff as much. or maybe i'm just a weirdo. and i still need a copy of origami and urbanism.

scott seward, Sunday, 11 October 2009 16:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Early stuff is very different, so your trepidation makes a kind of sense. Prior to Imperial, I don't think they really knew what they wanted to do or be, so they sort of bounced around through their influences. Kustom Karnal Blaxploitation seems like the epitome of this. Slots in with the loud guitars, funk-metal tendencies and dangerous/transgressive fascinations of early 90s indie/avant culture, but the band doesn't seem to feel terribly comfortable in that clothing. Skinhead Girl single seemed like the breakthrough at the time, the point at which they became themselves (kicking off a rush of great material on the run-up to Imperial: Factory EP, Bavarian Mods, Cherry Cherry).

a bleak, sometimes frightening portrait of ceiling cat (contenderizer), Sunday, 11 October 2009 17:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Don't think US distribs were sketched about anything. Since they were on the label they ran I would say no, too. Also noteworthy that they didn't tack those on to the remaster.

Scott -
The further back you go the less pop and more post-punk Mark's work is; if that's your thing, it's worth exploring. I have copies of some of the early cassette stuff but never dif out anything pre-Imperial.

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EZ Snappin, Sunday, 11 October 2009 17:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Picked up a copy of the Isabel Bishop EP at the shoppe this morning - after trying and failing to find the "Skinhead Girl" 45 (where do things go when you aren't looking at them?). So great, and it's especially interesting to hear Teenage Suicide and Nation Writer in the context of this discussion. They seem like the bridge between Kustom Karnal and Imperial, along with She Makes Me Shake Like a Soul Machine, which sounds totally out of place on KK.

Now I gotta track down BPM and the Cath Carrol EP...

a bleak, sometimes frightening portrait of ceiling cat (contenderizer), Sunday, 11 October 2009 20:15 (fourteen years ago) link

As far as I know, the two older tracks that fans of late Unrest need to hear are, "She Makes Me Shake Like a Soul Machine" and "Can't Sit Still." Not to say that the other stuff isn't worth hearing. My favorite song of theirs is still "Vibe Out!" Completists shouldn't forget the Mod Fuck Explosion soundtrack, only one song of which is on CD to my knowledge.

dlp9001, Sunday, 11 October 2009 20:28 (fourteen years ago) link

2nd Can't Sit Still - that was the song that first caught my attention, twenty goddam years ago. Would add Christina to the S list, also from Malcolm X Park.

a bleak, sometimes frightening portrait of ceiling cat (contenderizer), Sunday, 11 October 2009 20:43 (fourteen years ago) link

"Vibe Out" is one of my favorites also, so good.

also search "Headringer" from the Magic Flowers 7" box and the acoustic "Cath Carroll".

sleeve, Sunday, 11 October 2009 21:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Forgot about Headringer! Box was called Magic Ribbons, irc. A lot of it was crap, but that's a great Unrest song it also had a whole bunch of early Sebadoh tracks, including Cyster, which I liked a lot. Plus I loved the shit out of Mystery Tramps' The Trip, though I don't think I ever heard anything else by the band. Kind of CVB-esque.

The label, Leopard Gecko put out some early Seaweed stuff, a Treehouse single that I remember half liking, cool stuff by an Melvins-y Oly band called Dangermouse and a Barbed Wire Dolls 45 that's still a guilty pleasure (vaguely reminiscent of The Cult).

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a bleak, sometimes frightening portrait of ceiling cat (contenderizer), Sunday, 11 October 2009 21:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Apologize for the terrible prose/grammar there. And elsewhere.

a bleak, sometimes frightening portrait of ceiling cat (contenderizer), Sunday, 11 October 2009 21:34 (fourteen years ago) link

the 'fuck pussy galore' cd has at least five tracks that would appeal to fans of the imperial-era stuff. i think it's pretty easy to find cheap secondhand

i just remembered that courtney love did a cover of 'skinhead girl' that i don't think i've ever heard, i should seek it out for laffs

sound of contusion (electricsound), Sunday, 11 October 2009 21:37 (fourteen years ago) link

those Sebadoh tracks are now on the Domino reissue of Freed Weed (xpost)

sleeve, Sunday, 11 October 2009 21:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Picked up a copy of the Isabel Bishop EP at the shoppe this morning- - love love love this version of the song & also the Marine Girls cover. I wish I had access to it right now, actually, but it is buried in a box somewhere..

cervix-a-lot (Pillbox), Sunday, 11 October 2009 21:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Aaaaand this afternoon I picked up BPM, just to get full coverage of the circa-Imperial singles & cetera (OCD kicking in hard). Nice that this stuff is so easily available used in indie shops. Again, the entire whoosh of songs they released between late 1990 and early '93 is just incredible. Sudden outpourings of all-genius material in otherwise uneven careers are strange. Welcome, but strange...

a bleak, sometimes frightening portrait of ceiling cat (contenderizer), Monday, 12 October 2009 01:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Why why why hasn't some aspiring rapper sampled "Champion Nines" (off Imperial)?????

Mr. Snrub, Monday, 12 October 2009 01:22 (fourteen years ago) link

[nabisco]=Nabisco? Why do you hide under a different name? What's the point if everyone recognizes you anyway? Is this a quiz show?

― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Tuesday, August 27, 2002 6:42 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
N****h has googling fears, Alex -- it's to do with a thread he posted on that his mother found, but the thread itself wasn't the type of thing you'd necessarily talk to your mother about. ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, August 27, 2002 6:50 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Ha ha old ILM.

Mr. Snrub, Monday, 12 October 2009 01:23 (fourteen years ago) link

Ha ha also on the new ILX automatically substituting nabisco's real name on the quote.

Mr. Snrub, Monday, 12 October 2009 01:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Every time an Unrest thread pops up, I go to the teenbeat site and find out that there's new product. No exception now: two live shows now available. May have to investigate...

dlp9001, Monday, 12 October 2009 02:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Hey, just noticed that the copy of B.P.M. I picked up the other day tacks on three bonus tracks at the end: a three-minute version of "Make-Out Club", a short acoustic tune with Bridget singing, and a very brief instrumental version of Styx's "Sailing Away" (more a quote than a proper cover, but whatever). These songs aren't mentioned on the packaging or on Allmusic/Amazon/Discogs, so I'm wondering what the Bridget song is. Anyone know?

from alcoholism to fleshly concerns (contenderizer), Wednesday, 14 October 2009 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link

keep repeating keep repeating

cutty, Wednesday, 14 October 2009 20:03 (fourteen years ago) link

Turns out it's an acoustic version of Light Command, another Perfect Teeth track. Dunno where it comes from, or if it appears anwhere else but on BPM.

from alcoholism to fleshly concerns (contenderizer), Wednesday, 14 October 2009 20:12 (fourteen years ago) link

perfect teeth is great!

― scott seward, Sunday, October 11, 2009 12:31 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark

鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 14 October 2009 21:08 (fourteen years ago) link

everything post KK Blaxploitation through to the end is near flawless, inc Perfect Teeth

Remove This Vile Tweet (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 14 October 2009 21:15 (fourteen years ago) link

one of my favorite bands ever, so creative

Remove This Vile Tweet (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 14 October 2009 21:16 (fourteen years ago) link

Light Command is a great song. Haven't heard that acoustic version tho.

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 14 October 2009 21:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Wanna pick up a copy of Perfect Teeth now, as I haven't heard it in ages and the PT-era stuff on BPM is just as good as Imperial etc. I have a tendency to fall hard for a certain record and to look askance at whatever comes next simply because it isn't that thing. Years later I'll hear the follow-up record I once denounced and be completely shocked by how RONG I was. Perhaps this is one of those...

from alcoholism to fleshly concerns (contenderizer), Wednesday, 14 October 2009 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

I just noticed that a kind of ok Unrest track that's not so easily found has turned up on one of them there blog things. Song is "House Proud" on the soundtrack to Hippy Porn from 1991, which was supposed to come out on Matador, but never did. It sounds a bit like one of their Air Miami demos. I like it, even if it is pretty short. I've had it on cassette for a while but could never manage to transfer to digital.

The soundtrack has a number of other big names on it (Unsane, Frogs, Cop Shoot Cop, Thurston Moore) and a very unessential Dustdevils instrumental. Googling the pertinent bits of this post will turn it up.

dlp9001, Sunday, 15 November 2009 03:44 (fourteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

can someone tell me the name of that Mark Robinson solo album that's all cutup voice and sine waves?

sleeve, Sunday, 6 December 2009 01:48 (fourteen years ago) link

I believe you're thinking about the *Taste* EP: http://www.amazon.com/Taste-Mark-Robinson/dp/B00004TJZ1/

ernestp, Sunday, 6 December 2009 02:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Those early Unrest cassettes are available on CD from Teenbeat's site now. I'm guessing they're made to order CD-R's but I may be wrong. But to finally hear Twister and Lisa Carol Freemont after all these years of wondering.

Sock Puppet Queso Con Concentrate, Sunday, 6 December 2009 02:10 (fourteen years ago) link

four months pass...

I've got to find a way to get to one of those shows.

kate78, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 18:35 (thirteen years ago) link

bummed, no west coast dates!

the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 18:38 (thirteen years ago) link

I think the Black Cat show in DC is on sale now.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 18:42 (thirteen years ago) link

DC area local me should get a ticket before it sells it.

Some of you might find this article that discusses the old Teenbeat house in Arlington, VA., to be of interest

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/articles/38231/the-orange-line-revolution-the-year-that-punk-rock-left

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 18:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Wow Ropers opening in Hoboken SO FUCKING EXCITED!!!

Evan, Thursday, 6 May 2010 01:18 (thirteen years ago) link

great article, thanks! xp

bug holocaust (sleeve), Thursday, 6 May 2010 01:32 (thirteen years ago) link

I love this band so much.

bug holocaust (sleeve), Thursday, 6 May 2010 01:33 (thirteen years ago) link

I saw them 3-4 times back in the day & once as Air Miami. They are an absolutely terrific live band! Such simple arrangements & yet such lockstep rhythm b/w the guitars & drums - Mark R has such a huge voice too. Hopefully it has aged well?

I might have to make my way east this July.

in movie 2001 resurrect thread on planet jupiter (Pillbox), Thursday, 6 May 2010 01:46 (thirteen years ago) link

I saw them the night Clinton was elected. All I remember is them playing "Hydroplane" for 8-10 minutes and Bridget resting her head on Mark's shoulder while they effortlessly jammed out.

bug holocaust (sleeve), Thursday, 6 May 2010 01:50 (thirteen years ago) link

One of the best double-bills I've ever attended: Unrest & Stereolab in '93 @ St. Andrews Hall in Detroit - touring for Perfect Teeth & TRNBWA respectively.

in movie 2001 resurrect thread on planet jupiter (Pillbox), Thursday, 6 May 2010 02:29 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^ was at that same show...awesome

henry s, Thursday, 6 May 2010 02:39 (thirteen years ago) link

One of the best triple bills I ever saw: Unrest, Volcano Suns, Wesding Present at the 9:30, 20 years ago. Anyone else going to the Cambridge show?

dad a, Thursday, 6 May 2010 02:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Suki is pretty catchy. I've seen a couple lists that rank Imperial ffras the number one indie album of all time - DO NOT AGREE. But I can't deny it's a pretty attractive album, all the songs are very well done. But holy shit, talk about iconoclasm. I'm sure people have seen the list I'm talking about.

kelpolaris, Thursday, 6 May 2010 02:47 (thirteen years ago) link

xxp - have we been through this before, henry s? I think we were probably at a lot of the same shows.

in movie 2001 resurrect thread on planet jupiter (Pillbox), Thursday, 6 May 2010 02:48 (thirteen years ago) link

One of the best double-bills I've ever attended: Unrest & Stereolab in '93 @ St. Andrews Hall in Detroit - touring for Perfect Teeth & TRNBWA respectively.

Caught that bill out here at UC Irvine, with Idaho opening. Hell of a triple bill.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 May 2010 02:52 (thirteen years ago) link


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