Techno/House Bobbins of the past

hey mehlt, i'd try just asking vince directly, i'm sure he'll get back to you.
http://www.myspace.com/musiquerisquee

there is no thread devoted to The Black Dog :[

inspired by listening to Balil 'Nort Route' just now, another giant for those 'saddest house/techno ever' list threads

― Annoying Display Name (blueski), Friday, 17 October 2008 12:50 (41 seconds ago)

Surely an oversight?

Five Black Dog jams worth checking out...

Parasight
Cost II
I.A.O.
Minour
End of Time

That's ironic, I've been spending a bunch of time with Black Dog classics since discovering that Soma had re-issued a bunch late last year (news to me!) and finding them in the Rhapsody catalog. In fact, just today I did a little Black Dog blog post on the Rhapsody blog: http://blog.rhapsody.com/2008/10/concentric-pl-1.html

i love the older SR and black dog tracks (C2 too) that use sloppy sounding breakbeats.

I dislike those sloppy breakbeats!

yeah, well, i love them :D

especially when the breakbeats are quantized in their loops but the edges and timing on the sample is slightly incorrect. kinda like the way flying lotus does it.

I'm sure there are Black Dog threads but they're mostly full of dog latin complaining loudly about how it's all just terrible keyboard presets and how massively superior Plaid (ffs!) are (a Hey guys!!"Foo Fighters >>> Nirvana" scenario of wrong if ever there was one...) and that LFO are bobbins too

hey mehlt, i'd try just asking vince directly, i'm sure he'll get back to you.
http://www.myspace.com/musiquerisquee

― pshrbrn, Wednesday, October 15, 2008 4:29 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

That would require not being horribly shy and terrified of actually taking the initiative to do so. Such is life.

I was thinking of BPD (the real#1 to me) not long ago, after hearing their new single (the one with the Robert hood remixes); it's a beaut. (I must say, though, that whole period from Spanners through to, well, whenever they started sounding like they did at the beginning of the 90's just puts a bad taste in my mouth, and certainly so with Plaid (fandago, OTM). "Trainer" was big-time seriously foundational record for me, and Bytes was not far behind it in terms of personal importance).

Hmm, I LOVE Spanners. "Psil-Cosyin" is sometimes my favourite Black Dog track. So kaleidoscopic.

What don't you like, mehlt? Is it the allusions to Orb/Ultramarine-style "atmosphere" ("Chase The Manhattan" etc.)?

The early stuff is awesome too obv, but for me the whole trajectory up to Spanners feels like the trio learning how to push and push and push at the wiredness of their grooves. I guess a counter-argument is that Spanners introduces stuff that sounds like a lot "straighter" and rather like a lot of the other IDM from the era (and Plaid Mk II continued to push that more syncretist sound), but I think they get the balance right on that album - a whole disc of "Psil-Cosyin"-style tracks would be exhausting...

Well, I guess it's the abandoning of their Detroit via Sheffield sound they started out with in favour of what would eventually be more like what Plaid sounds like. Indeed the grooves got weirder and more experimental, sound design improved, but not necessarily for the better to me at least - too many ideas packed into too little space. Something about it just doesn't mesh well I find, doesn't keep my attention and moreover doesn't make me feel as much as, say, "The Clan (Mongol Hordes)" does.

Also, where's the love for Reload here? How I need a copy of A Collection of Short Stories. . .

'sharp shooting on saturn' from 'temple of transparent balls' is ridiculously gorgeous. think the black dog were kinda embarrassed at how pretty it is, hence the silly coda.

Picked up this yesterday: Dan Curtin - The Web Of Life.

Presented in mix format by a dj I've never heard of, this is still classic Curtain material i.e. lots of quirky acid squiggles and drum programming that could only be him. Definitely at the top of his game around this time.

i paid silly money for "web of life" ($30+ iirc) but it's definitely my favorite curtin disc

dan curtin is so amazing. you can't go wrong with "silicon dawn", "web of life", "art & science" or "deception"

yeah, all good stuff. i get this feeling that dan curtain was listening to a lot of british hardcore/ jungle at this time - something about those uplifing pads he uses on some of these tracks. ahh... the good old days.

lovely record.

wow, that is lovely.

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OK fail

wow, that is lovely.

you fuckin' with me, mehlt? :)

well, given the song itself, I should actually have written LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVEly.

Nice pitchfork article today by the way.

T/S White suit and scarf vs. That outfit(!) and that hair (!)

In retrospect, as end of the year mania starts popping up, I'm amazed at how much less I've focused on new music since I started this thread. I blame self-righteous negativity and increased concern for my hearing, not the records themselves, though.

That is the Darryl Pandy I know and love!

Does anyone know much about his 80's solo discography? Is there anything from 85-90 that is worth hearing?

Dollar Bin find of the week: http://www.discogs.com/release/1337960

I don't really remember these ladies from the first time around, but both Adonis and Kevin Saunderson provide real nice acid mixes.

Adonis's "Chicago House Mix":

Part of KMS's "Detroit House Mix":

That Wee Papa Girls track is great. Just picked that one up myself.

http://www.discogs.com/release/208508

Would it be a good idea to pick this mix up (the track it is named after is a treasured record in my house)

Returning to Audio Werner. (Let's see if I can write this out without sinking to the depths of complaining about someone being underrated) Dude just holds it down. I just listened to Trust, which is just wonderful, stuff like this and Onandon are so full of vim and vigour, really a pleasure to listen to.

lofi wbmx cassette mixes:

http://www.nuyoshi.com/wbmx.htm

hey anyone know what was the techno|house mix where there was elephant sounds in the jungle at one point? must have been between 2003 and 2005 I guess. wighnomy brothers maybe. that pass and around it was particularly mad and nice and still working

You might be thinking about Kiki's Boogy Bytes mix where he layers Andre Kraml's "Safari" (with the elephants) over that great Donal Tierney track . Correct me if I'm wrong.

Didn't Safari have the elephant noises on it anyway? I'll have to dig it out but I guess its this one.

Not sure. I'm unfamiliar with both tracks outside of this mix. But Safari def has the elephant noises right...

The elephants sound best in the Kiki & Silversurfer remix of "Safari" - it's on Damian Lazarus' Rebel Futurism 2 mix. Not sure if it was used anywhere else.

Out of nowhere, I find a craigslist posting wherein I for sale are over 500 records for a grand total of $250. Good stuff too, Perlon, Trapez, Kompakt, Force Inc and several more quality labels are cited. It's 2 days later and dude hasn't emailed me back. The suspense is killing me, not to mention worrying about how buying 500 records at once is going to change my life (not necessarily for the better) as I'm the type who needs to listen to an album/record straight, even if it's 500 at once. I don't know how I'd feel about a 5 foot high stack of 12' on my floor which would take like a year and a half to get all listened to (esepecially when, because of my sensitive hearing, I have to be very moderate in my listening habits, which would be affected too. I know I'm coming up with excuses for the sake of it, but when I spent even more on 18 records and 1 CD a few weeks ago, I mean, record buying deal of a lifetime.

I should probably have put that in a vinyl thread, but it's all 97-04 house/techno, so, y'know.

Wow good luck luck with that one. I bet there are some real gems in there. That's a whole lot more realistic than Mr C's ridiculous sale.

You need to start volunteering at a soup kitchen. You might find that it makes your "problem" seems pretty insignificant.

Ok, seriously. Is it soooooo apparent that I'm trivializing serious issues? Because no one, ever, and certainly not on ILM have ever talked about extremely-minor issues like this, and if anyone, like I, dare do it because I'm a greedy self-absorbed and malevolent asshole? What the fuck?

I mean, really. I'm not denying it's an insignificant problem, I don't see where it's appropriate that I should be accused of 1) presenting it as such, and 2) not recognizing salient social issues because of it.

What's this 'problem' people are writing about? I don't understand.

Supposedly, my worrying about buying a bunch of records has caused me to fail to recognize more serious problems, and as such I need to volunteer at a soup kitchen so I can see how trivial they are.

I think the fact you didn't even see a "problem" is much more telling than my getting worked up above.

wheres your christmas spirit

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/02/monorail_cat_zoom.gif

Admittedly I've been having unprecedented bouts of anxiety and mood swings lately, on top of being a very defensive and kind of paranoid person, which probably makes me look like the asshole (not to say there is an asshole here, but comments like the above, which are generally lazy and cheap attacks, irritate the hell out of me for a number of reasons).

My lack of Christmas spirit, however, is probably due to not being Christian. I don't know what a monorail cat is.

you're not the one who looks like the asshole

Yeah ridiculous comment above.

jesus, $250. i would probably email him offering $275 to encourage him to reply!