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Cuzzi had called it foul, negating a leadoff double, and he spent much of the next 24 hours trying to figure out what happened. Part of it, he thinks, was playing an unnatural position - baseball only uses umpires along the outfield foul lines in the postseason and for the All-Star Game.

"We're not used to playing that far down the line,” Cuzzi said. "The instant the ball is hit, we usually start running. I think I may have been looking too closely at it. I never had a feel for where the left fielder was on the play."

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/sweetspot/0-6-36/Chewing-on-Cuzzi-s-call.html

Your Favorite Saturday Night Thing (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 12:47 (fourteen years ago) link

The location of the left fielder does not matter, dipshit.

Andy K, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 13:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Cuzzi had called it a strike, negating a leadoff walk, and he spent much of the next 24 hours trying to figure out what happened. Part of it, he thinks, was playing an unnatural position - a plate umpire isn't usually scratching his ass during the postseason or the All-Star Game.

"We're not used to standing that way behind the catcher," Cuzzi said. "The instant the ball is thrown, we usually start watching. I think I may have been looking too closely at it. I never had a feel for where the hitter was on the play."

Andy K, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 13:12 (fourteen years ago) link

if his glove is in fair territory when he (nearly?) touched the ball, it might

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Your Favorite Saturday Night Thing (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 13:17 (fourteen years ago) link

That's true, although in this case, the ball, the fielder's body, the fielder's feet, and the fielder's glove were all in fair territory during the entire play.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 13:43 (fourteen years ago) link

but he was too close to notice.

Your Favorite Saturday Night Thing (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 13:45 (fourteen years ago) link

So it didn't make any difference where the fielder was, i.e. the ball landed in fair territory, so it was fair, there's no other possibility.

I guess that umpires are trained to watch the fielder's glove and feet on a play like this, and if the ball isn't caught, only then they focus on where the ball is? For plays at first base, for example, umps aren't supposed to watch the ball, they're supposed to watch the bag and listen for the sound of the ball hitting the glove.

Otherwise, I have no clue what Cuzzi is talking about.

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NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 13:51 (fourteen years ago) link

While federal laws prohibit Major League Baseball from discussing injuries of employees, FOXsports.com has learned that the sidelined umpires include crew chiefs John Hirschbeck (testicular cancer), Charlie Reliford (back), Jerry Crawford (back), Tim Welke (concussion), Ed Montague (concussion and neck), Gary Darling (ankle and foot) and Rick Reed (stroke).

Other umpires who are sidelined by injuries include Kerwin Danley (concussion), Alfonso Marquez (back), Brian Runge (details unknown), Bill Hohn (back) and Ed Hickok (concussion).

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Saturday, 17 October 2009 07:41 (fourteen years ago) link

holy crap!

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Saturday, 17 October 2009 16:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Concussions from foul tips??

Super Smize (Leee), Saturday, 17 October 2009 17:39 (fourteen years ago) link

From looking at replays the next day and smacking themselves in the head.

WmC, Saturday, 17 October 2009 17:56 (fourteen years ago) link

laz diaz is the worst

no hongro (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 17 October 2009 18:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Sheehan on Aybar's neighborhood play:

"Ninety-nine times out of a hundred, maybe 995 out of a thousand, Cabrera is called out. Last night, Jerry Layne, at random, called him safe. He suspended the de facto rules in favor of the de jure ones in extra innings of a playoff game. It's good for baseball that the Yankees didn't score in the inning, leaving the call as an afterthought.

You cannot run the game a certain way 99 percent of the time, then randomly decide to make a by-the-book call in a high-leverage moment. It turns the game into a farce. We see this now and again, an umpire calling a runner safe, or denying a batter first base for not making an effort to get out of the way of a pitch, and it becomes a nightmare every time. If the umpires want to have a set of rules separate from the ones in the book, fine, but they can't go back and forth between the two at will."

(several BP commenters disagree)

Your Favorite Saturday Night Thing (Dr Morbius), Monday, 19 October 2009 17:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Pretty sure the "problem" was that the umpire WAS going by the rules in the book, and according to the production team, Aybar had actually touched second on every other force at second prior to that.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Monday, 19 October 2009 17:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Bill (New Mexico): What do you think of the MLB move to install "veteran" umpires in the World Series after all the umpiring screwups of the post season so far? Will it actually help? Color me skeptical.

Eric Seidman: A lot of these blown calls have been from veteran umpires. In my mind there is no solution other than a correction-based system. Either the umps need to correct each other or someone needs to be watching the game capable of making corrections. If official scorers are simply watching the game and making decisions why not something for umpires?

Your Favorite Saturday Night Thing (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 24 October 2009 13:58 (fourteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

Long... but well-done:

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=%2F20100606%2FSPORTS02%2F6060457%2F1318%2FHow-ump-went-from-Ohio-to-bigs-to-national-scrutiny&;template=fullarticle

(could be xposted tot he kisckass media thread?)

_▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 03:52 (thirteen years ago) link

three months pass...

http://twitter.com/DSpxp/status/24543405780

Andy K, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 11:04 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

ANAHEIM, Calif. -- New York Yankees catcher Russell Martin said plate umpire Laz Diaz decided on an unusual way to punish him for arguing balls and strikes.

Martin said Diaz wouldn't allow him to throw new baseballs back to his pitchers after fouls during New York's 6-5 win over the Los Angeles Angels on Wednesday night.

"Laz Diaz is a d---. Write it hard," Martin shouted as he came into the clubhouse.

Martin said the ball ban was put into effect after he and Diaz exchanged some words over strike calls early in the game.

"He said that it was a privilege that I had to earn, for me to throw the ball back," said the catcher, a seven-year veteran and three-time All Star. "That's never happened to me before. I even told him, because there's guys on base, I like to keep my arm loose. Nope. 'I'm not letting you throw the ball back.' That's pretty strange, to me. That's a good story, huh?"

mookieproof, Thursday, 31 May 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link

Destroy all.

Grusin' Gang (Andy K), Thursday, 31 May 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

@Tom_Gage
"Umpire told Alex (Avila), he missed the 2-2 pitch," said #Tigers Leyland about two-out walk that led to Boston's tie-breaking run in 7th

OH, THANKS.

Grusin' Gang (Andy K), Thursday, 31 May 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

New York Yankees catcher Russell Martin said plate umpire Laz Diaz decided on an unusual way to punish him for arguing balls and strikes.

He forced him to watch an eight-hour Filipino movie about melancholy?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_satkzCjK2F4/SPrB_tlklzI/AAAAAAAABKQ/Du_tHNiQugc/s320/melancholia2.jpg

(Directed by Laz Diaz--I'm just kidding, I was intrigued by it until I had to leave a couple of hours in for reasons that had nothing to do with the film.)

clemenza, Thursday, 31 May 2012 23:02 (eleven years ago) link

Oops--the film's by Lav Diaz.

clemenza, Thursday, 31 May 2012 23:02 (eleven years ago) link

tbf, it was just the new baseballs, and some umps throw them themselves as a matter of course -- i mean if russell martin can't keep his arm loose throwing back every other pitch that isn't fouled off, then he's got some other issues

that said, i don't think we need umpires who are so obviously petty and passive aggressive

mookieproof, Friday, 1 June 2012 00:36 (eleven years ago) link

laz diaz is the worst

― no hongro (J0rdan S.), Saturday, October 17, 2009 2:00 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

johnny crunch, Friday, 1 June 2012 01:36 (eleven years ago) link

cb bucknor thinks that's a bad call

mookieproof, Friday, 1 June 2012 01:48 (eleven years ago) link

two years pass...

The third vacancy stems from the retirement of Crew Chief Tim McClelland, who served 32-plus years and more than 4,200 games, including 94 Postseason games, as a Major League Umpire. The Michigan native had the second-most Major League experience among the active staff, trailing only 37-year Umpire Joe West. The Michigan State University product worked four World Series (1993, 2000, 2002 and 2006) in his career along with nine League Championship Series, five Division Series and three All-Star Games (1986, 1998, 2003). McClelland was the home plate umpire for the “Pine Tar Game” between the Kansas City Royals and the New York Yankees at Yankee Stadium on July 24, 1983, as well as Game Seven of the 2003 American League Championship Series at Yankee Stadium. He also called balls and strikes in the perfect game by Yankees left-hander David Wells on May 17, 1998 in New York.

mookieproof, Friday, 20 February 2015 19:06 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

His night ended with Freeman standing along the first base line, the All-Star's hands on his head after he bounced his batting helmet off the ground. From across the diamond, third base umpire John Hirschbeck ejected him.

Freeman said afterward he told Hirschbeck the call wasn't right, but stressed he didn't make it personal.

"I was just walking toward first base and I just told him ... I didn't say 'You're bad,' I said 'That's bad' a few times and (Hirschbeck) started pointing at me," Freeman said. "I kind of looked in the dugout and I heard him say 'Shut your f'n mouth.' So that's when I kind of looked at him and just (waved him off). Once I raised my hands is when he kicked me out."

Freeman said he had never heard an umpire say anything like that to a play before and made a point to stress there were young fans in the crowd.

"There's some kids in the stands and that's just not nice what he said," Freeman said.

http://www.foxsports.com/south/story/three-cuts-emotions-run-high-as-atlanta-braves-jump-on-slumping-washington-nationals-042715

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 28 April 2015 19:09 (eight years ago) link

Hirschbeck looked like he was seriously spoiling for a fight last night. I was glad the cameras caught the "you shut your fuckin' mouth" part.

WilliamC, Tuesday, 28 April 2015 19:36 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...
five months pass...
five months pass...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cg-jz1tUcAAkYjk.jpg

mookieproof, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 15:26 (seven years ago) link

i really wish they'd update that legend so that it clearly indicated which ones are called strikes and which are swinging strikes. i forget and have to look it up every single time

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 16:02 (seven years ago) link

life is so hard

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 16:02 (seven years ago) link

dale scott picking up right where barrett left off last night in colorado

mookieproof, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 01:57 (seven years ago) link

eight months pass...

The minimum monthly salary for rookie and short-season Class A umpires, which had started at $1,900 under the previous five-year agreement, will rise to $2,000 under the new deal and increase to as much as $2,300 for a fourth-year umpire.

For full-season Class A, the minimum rises from $2,000 to $2,100 and increases to $2,600 by a seventh season. At Double-A, the minimum goes up from $2,300 to $2,500 and rises to $3,100 by a ninth season. At Triple-A, it goes up from $2,600 to $2,900 and rises to $3,900 by a 14th season.

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/18439218/minor-league-umpires-get-hotel-upgrade-family-leave-raises

mookieproof, Tuesday, 10 January 2017 20:55 (seven years ago) link

three months pass...

possibly as entertaining: umps may give miked explanations of relay rulings

JOE WEST: THE ANGLE DIDN’T SHOW CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE THAT ... LISTEN, SHUT UP. ALL OF YOU SHUT UP AND STOP BOOING. I SAW THE VIDEO, AND YOU DIDN’T, SO SHUT. UP. ALRIGHT ...

[points into the stands]

YOU’RE GONE.

[points into the stands]

OUTTA HERE.

[points into the stands]

I WILL FIND YOU AND BITE YOU.

http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2017/4/18/15342348/umpires-microphones-video-review-instant-replay

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 20 April 2017 16:14 (six years ago) link

lol

and yeah, that's a really dumb idea. and kind of a humiliating demotion for the umps as well. over a course of a few years they go from being the all-powerful arbitrators of justice to messengers for the decisions made by a mysterious replay room in nyc

Karl Malone, Thursday, 20 April 2017 16:20 (six years ago) link

hey rookie umpire kid, go out there and tell the notoriously friendly philadelphia crowd that a call is going against them and explain why in really boring, obvious ways

Karl Malone, Thursday, 20 April 2017 16:21 (six years ago) link

super - so they found another way to make them take up even more time.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 20 April 2017 16:28 (six years ago) link

my dream job is to be the guy who holds the bag for the umpire replay reviews:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Instantreplaymlb.jpg/280px-Instantreplaymlb.jpg

Karl Malone, Thursday, 20 April 2017 16:29 (six years ago) link

i'm fine w/ calling pitchouts as strikes on Werth

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 20 April 2017 17:05 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

So 2b Umpire Alan Porter just told Daniel Murphy "F-- you" when asked to shift in #nats game. @FightinHydrant and I are aghast. pic.twitter.com/jrd2QKPN6G

— Steve Weddle (@steveweddle) June 13, 2017

personally i'm cool with anyone saying fuck you to daniel murphy

na (NA), Wednesday, 14 June 2017 01:41 (six years ago) link

Joe West umpired his 5000th game tonight, and weighed in on last year's election for metaphorical reasons.

http://deadspin.com/lets-check-in-with-umpire-joe-west-about-wikileaks-and-1796281278

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 03:04 (six years ago) link

joe west is the umpire america deserves

k3vin k., Wednesday, 21 June 2017 03:31 (six years ago) link

U have got to be kidding me https://t.co/VQJaeIfbaX

— Chipper Jones (@RealCJ10) July 4, 2017

mookieproof, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 15:18 (six years ago) link

Angel should learn to discriminate btwn balls and strikes

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 15:33 (six years ago) link

This is still my all time favorite WBC moment, courtesy of Angel Hernandez pic.twitter.com/QbIW2bpUDd

— Nutzo, the Clown (@azta110790) March 22, 2017

mookieproof, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 18:10 (six years ago) link

Jesus. Is that enough to get an ump canned??

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 11 March 2023 17:35 (one year ago) link

Nothing is

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 11 March 2023 17:38 (one year ago) link

The Southland Conference's statement on the New Orleans and Mississippi Valley State Baseball contest on March 10. pic.twitter.com/jZ5mFeRj6K

— Southland Conference (@SouthlandSports) March 11, 2023

mookieproof, Saturday, 11 March 2023 22:24 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

Homeplate umpire Randy Rosenberg ejects JT Realmuto for this 🤨 pic.twitter.com/dkQtpU1bHt

— Tim and Friends (@timandfriends) March 27, 2023

mookieproof, Monday, 27 March 2023 20:29 (one year ago) link

Beware, Catchers: The Robots Are Coming

Once an obscure art, pitch framing has become an essential MLB skill. But with robo umps seemingly destined for the big leagues, it is suddenly endangered.

mookieproof, Tuesday, 28 March 2023 21:10 (one year ago) link

the jomboy breakdown of this is essential. he really is excellent at reading lips

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ab8_xERdUa4

it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Tuesday, 28 March 2023 21:19 (one year ago) link

tbf getting thrown out of an exhibition game -- especially for a catcher -- is absolutely a bonus. save your knees for something that counts

mookieproof, Tuesday, 28 March 2023 21:31 (one year ago) link

This is one of the worst calls I've ever witnessed. Thankfully, it was overturned. #LGM pic.twitter.com/Po7x6k5zMs

— GENY Mets Report (@genymets) April 5, 2023

na (NA), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 18:51 (one year ago) link

i mean it looks like he simply didn't turn fast enough to see where it landed but that seems like when you go with a default fair call and then call it back if it was foul, not the other way around

na (NA), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 18:57 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

Be careful when you applaud because it may get you ejected.pic.twitter.com/yBbaxVZcZo

— Codify (@CodifyBaseball) May 13, 2023

mookieproof, Saturday, 13 May 2023 06:26 (eleven months ago) link

two months pass...

Obsessed with this. 34% of called strikes were balls!

Umpire: Laz Diaz
Final: Yankees 1, White Sox 5#RepBX // #WhiteSox#NYYvsCWS // #CWSvsNYY

More stats for this game 👇https://t.co/7VIQZpnDj3 pic.twitter.com/VVQPo0vHIs

— Umpire Scorecards (@UmpScorecards) August 8, 2023



All time ejection from Boone as well.

Umpire Laz Diaz missed 21 calls in the #Yankees #WhiteSox game and 14 went against the Yankees.

He had a lower correct call rate than Angel Hernandez did on Sunday.

After 8 innings of bad calls, Aaron Boone exploded, was ejected, and gave his best Laz Diaz impression. pic.twitter.com/VdKAuqZzgO

— Umpire Auditor (@UmpireAuditor) August 8, 2023



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F2-ethMWsAAaP71?format=jpg&name=large

ydkb (gyac), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 17:47 (eight months ago) link

sycophant john kay refusing to question any of those, classic

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 18:05 (eight months ago) link

seven months pass...

https://twitter.com/umpjob/status/177703412546497754

mookieproof, Sunday, 7 April 2024 18:06 (one week ago) link

The ball is three inches high, the pitcher stepped off the rubber right before the pitch

Angel Hernandez: "Strike three!" pic.twitter.com/FtFHaLYKQY

— Welcome to the Ump Show (@umpjob) April 7, 2024

mookieproof, Sunday, 7 April 2024 18:07 (one week ago) link

I've seen more horrific ball/strike calling this year already than I saw all of last year

H.P, Tuesday, 9 April 2024 01:17 (one week ago) link

Umpire Brennan Miller missed 10 calls in the first 4 innings and 9 went against the Twins.

He then called two more bad strikes to ring up Matt Wallner and ejected the hitting coach for complaining.

Miller missed 22 calls in the game and 17 went against the Twins. pic.twitter.com/sk6dhCueAF

— Umpire Auditor (@UmpireAuditor) April 7, 2024

na (NA), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 13:17 (one week ago) link

Nobody does it better

Umpire: Angel Hernandez
Final: Rangers 12, Astros 8#StraightUpTX // #Relentless#TEXvsHOU // #HOUvsTEX

More stats for this game 👇https://t.co/RJKSQogI6y pic.twitter.com/uRM1ykGr3R

— Umpire Scorecards (@UmpScorecards) April 13, 2024

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Saturday, 13 April 2024 14:39 (five days ago) link

curious about how this CWS-CIN ump gets rated, he was in a different universe in the top of the 2nd.

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Saturday, 13 April 2024 19:18 (five days ago) link


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