I HATE APPLE

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Does that ever really happen?

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 20 October 2009 23:50 (fourteen years ago) link

i dunno, don't ask, don't get, i suppose. plan b is threaten to leave at the end of your contract - then you get to speak to the retention department and all manner of options become open to you. i mean, an android phone/palm pre on a new contract on a new network and writing off two months' line rental is cheaper than buying a new iphone at full cost, right? your network provider should be able to make the same calculations.

ps i have never tried this and fold like a weak poker player in all customer service confrontations but do as i say not as i do.

joe, Tuesday, 20 October 2009 23:56 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm the same way, but my ex was a fervent Customer Service Warrior and I can tell you from her experience that if you use the rep's name constantly and sound serious about any threats you make without being beligerent, you can basically get any company to do anything you want. And this is a minor request, really, she could do stuff like get Bank of America to reverse ~$350 of overdraft fees on my account.

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 00:12 (fourteen years ago) link

I had a stupid eligibility conflict that prevented me from getting an iphone at the subsidized price (meaning it would have cost me $200 more) based on a mistake from a AT&T store lackey. I talked my way up the phone support level to the point that I spoke to somebody who at least appeared to have authority and who gave me her actual office number to call, where I explained to her how much more money they would make off me if they let me do this, how I'm basically begging her to pay an extra $50 a month for TWO iphones, how I'd already fulfilled a 2 year contract, threatened to leave for an Android or Palm, and so on and so on. She just said sorry, nothing I can do, yeah it's stupid, it's Apple's policy, tough shit. Maybe you'll have better luck.

joygoat, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 04:53 (fourteen years ago) link

i am so frustrated with my phone right now that i am almost ready to drop the extra $200 to get a new one tomorrow rather than wait for december 12

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 05:01 (fourteen years ago) link

So I forgot (!?!) to extend my AppleCare on my iPhone and now the "home" button only works on like one out of twenty presses.

mine's well on the way to the same thing, used to be every other press, now it's one out of four presses. it's under one year old.

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 05:07 (fourteen years ago) link

well i have now seen the "unsupported architecture" icon for the first time, twice actually within the space of two days - first for google chrome, then for the lightroom 3 beta

i guess a computer that apple was selling brand-new 4 years ago is considered so old as to be not worth even releasing one's software for?? fuck you

Tracer Hand, Monday, 26 October 2009 11:29 (fourteen years ago) link

not sure if that's directed at apple, adobe or google but fuck you all anyway

Tracer Hand, Monday, 26 October 2009 11:54 (fourteen years ago) link

this is you having a ppc, right? you're not still running 10.2 or something are you?

caek, Monday, 26 October 2009 12:22 (fourteen years ago) link

no i got leopard, duke

Tracer Hand, Monday, 26 October 2009 14:48 (fourteen years ago) link

but yes, ppc

Tracer Hand, Monday, 26 October 2009 14:48 (fourteen years ago) link

pp caca more like it

banned, on the run (s1ocki), Monday, 26 October 2009 14:53 (fourteen years ago) link

you're not helping

Tracer Hand, Monday, 26 October 2009 15:01 (fourteen years ago) link

if it's any consolation, the upgrades in LR 3 are not v compelling to me.

caek, Monday, 26 October 2009 15:09 (fourteen years ago) link

i guess a computer that apple was selling brand-new 4 years ago is considered so old as to be not worth even releasing one's software for?? fuck you

― Tracer Hand, Monday, October 26, 2009 7:29 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

what is the deal with airplane food

Bobby Wo (max), Monday, 26 October 2009 15:15 (fourteen years ago) link

you're not helping either

Tracer Hand, Monday, 26 October 2009 17:58 (fourteen years ago) link

this is the i hate apple thread btw, perhaps you took a wrong turning

Tracer Hand, Monday, 26 October 2009 18:04 (fourteen years ago) link

and these computers--you buy one, and then five minutes late its out of date

Bobby Wo (max), Monday, 26 October 2009 18:43 (fourteen years ago) link

tracer i feel for you i really do but lets get real

Bobby Wo (max), Monday, 26 October 2009 18:44 (fourteen years ago) link

no i'm grumpy now

Tracer Hand, Monday, 26 October 2009 19:35 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean how the fuck i am going to survive with lightroom TWO (which is still the current official version) and, like, the most up to date version of safari god only knows

Tracer Hand, Monday, 26 October 2009 19:37 (fourteen years ago) link

thank god twitter works on the old safari right?!

caek, Monday, 26 October 2009 20:25 (fourteen years ago) link

i want a new computer

how rad bandit (gbx), Monday, 26 October 2009 20:27 (fourteen years ago) link

indexing on snow leopard is ridiculous. every time it wants to index the drive, my 2.6 GHz 15" MBP - that i shelled out top-dollar for - turns into a laggy, buggy mess.

i hate you, indexing.

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 15:31 (fourteen years ago) link

I used to have that problem on my old 2 GHz MB, but haven't noticed anything on my MBP with Snow Leopard.

Might be that it's just indexing the drives at a more convenient time.

Millsner, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 15:32 (fourteen years ago) link

caek i actually did mean "with" there

actual new stable mainstream products that do not run on PPC = only google chrome as far as i know

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 18:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Christ, Apple. The exact-same Zing for iPhone app that they rejected a fortnight ago because they didn't like "henfap" as a keyword, has now been rejected because it might confuse you if you have no internet connection then try to log in to a server on the internet and it doesn't work. I have to make a big flashing "you have no internet" banner to make sure you are not confused. fuck apple.

stet, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 19:15 (fourteen years ago) link

I took my computer for repair the other day, a couple keys aren't working because of water damage from about six months ago and I wanted to know how much it would cost to get fixed. They quoted me $1280! "Well...other parts could be rusting and rotting inside...and you have a dent on one corner so that could've caused hardware damage...we'd have to send it in and list it as a Tier 4 repair, that's the most major kind, and the flat charge is $1280." "Really? I just have three keys that aren't working...." "You can get a refurbished macbook starting at $999!" Guess I'll just stick with my external keyboard then, THANKS APPLE.

Maria, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 21:15 (fourteen years ago) link

haha, yeah they are terrible in that regard. when my internal HD died (2 months out of warranty, natch) they asked a crazy figure to repair it. i ended up buying a HD twice as big off newegg, took it to a local shop, the whole thing was way way less than what the Apple Store quoted me.

Nhex, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 22:31 (fourteen years ago) link

is time machine a horrible godawful slow mess for anyone else or just me? I can't even have it running on my mac mini (running snow leopard), it slows the entire thing down to an awful crawl.

akm, Thursday, 29 October 2009 17:59 (fourteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

finally figured out how to get rid of "Apple To Do" mailboxes from showing up in ALL of my IMAP accounts ON IPHONE

1. quit Mail
2. open terminal, paste

defaults write com.apple.mail NewNoteToDoAccount -string LocalAccountId

and hit enter.

3. you'l still need to delete the mailbox on the server, but now it won't be created again.

is it just me or does it seem weird that leopard has the permissions to create mailboxes on my own mail server??

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 10:55 (fourteen years ago) link

hey, that's just IMAP (4) and your mail server at work

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 10:59 (fourteen years ago) link

fuck now it's back.

WARNING. BUM TIP.

whatchoo talkin bout alang. it isn't my work mail server it's MINE OWN.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 11:06 (fourteen years ago) link

unless you have done skillz stuff to stop your mail server allowing it, IMAP clients have the ability to make folders when they like innit

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 11:10 (fourteen years ago) link

I have a folder INBOX.INBOX.INBOX.INBOX.INBOX.INBOX.INBOX.INBOX.INBOX.INBOX.Trash or something. It's pretty buggy.

caek, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 11:12 (fourteen years ago) link

the whole point of using IMAP over POP3 is that IMAP can do stuff to yer mail server

would like to know how to get rid of To-do folder too though

囧 (dyao), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 11:16 (fourteen years ago) link

I have this golden vision of opening my mail program ON IPHONE and seeing "Inbox" "Drafts" "Sent" and "Trash" for each of my email accounts, and nothing else. Or even a consolidated inbox so I don't have to check each account individually but let's not get carried away.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 11:18 (fourteen years ago) link

I am sorely tempted to set permissions on /~Home/Library/Mail/IMAP-account/INBOX to read-only so that Mail can't create anything there (but would still be able to alter lower folders) but I'm a big scaredy cat.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 11:20 (fourteen years ago) link

has anyone here lost their ability to send out gmail in OS X Mail? I didn't change anything but one day mails in my gmail outbox just stopped getting sent; instead it just spins indefinitely. I've tried removing gmail from Mail and putting it back in, but nothing. And google hasn't helped.

Yah Kid A (Euler), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 11:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Euler you may possibly be running into a mail relay situation with your local ISP - they may have changed their policy about what ports they accept outgoing traffic on. Have you tried sending it non-securely (port 25), or over port 465 or 587?

IMAP on Mail seems to just suck though. I've spent the last two days trying to get all my accounts moved from POP3 to IMAP, and I'm running into all these weird bugs, like the one caek mentioned.

http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/bto/20081005/2_nested_inbox.png

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 11:37 (fourteen years ago) link

are you using an IMAP prefix option in the account setup?

does this help?

http://www.geekology.co.za/blog/2009/02/configure-gmail-imap-accounts-properly-in-apple-mail-and-on-the-iphone/

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 11:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Tracer I'll try that. Thanks!

Yah Kid A (Euler), Wednesday, 25 November 2009 12:01 (fourteen years ago) link

alang it's not a gmail account. :(

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 12:44 (fourteen years ago) link

I generally do this once in a while, which is great to be doing in 2009.

n11:mike$ cd Maildir/
n11:Maildir$ find . -name 'INBOX.INBOX*'
./courierimaphieracl/INBOX.INBOX.INBOX.INBOX.INBOX.INBOX.INBOX
./courierimaphieracl/INBOX.INBOX
./courierimaphieracl/INBOX.INBOX.INBOX.INBOX
./courierimaphieracl/INBOX.INBOX.INBOX.INBOX.INBOX.INBOX.Trash
./courierimaphieracl/INBOX.INBOX.INBOX.INBOX.INBOX
./courierimaphieracl/INBOX.INBOX.INBOX
./courierimaphieracl/INBOX.INBOX.Junk
./courierimaphieracl/INBOX.INBOX.INBOX.Junk
./courierimaphieracl/INBOX.INBOX.INBOX.INBOX.INBOX.Trash
./courierimaphieracl/INBOX.INBOX.INBOX.INBOX.INBOX.INBOX.INBOX.Trash
./courierimaphieracl/INBOX.INBOX.INBOX.INBOX.INBOX.INBOX
n11:Maildir$ find . -name 'INBOX.INBOX*' -print0 | xargs -0 rm -rf

caek, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 12:59 (fourteen years ago) link

and

n11:Maildir$ rm -r .Apple\ Mail\ To\ Do/

caek, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 12:59 (fourteen years ago) link

and remove all the subscriptions to this bullshit in the web interface of my IMAP account (or hacking the Maildir files if you are elite)

caek, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 13:00 (fourteen years ago) link

and then I set

ToDosMailboxName
to an empty string in the relevant account in com.apple.mail.plist

caek, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 13:00 (fourteen years ago) link

and then i trash ~/Library/Mail (saving a copy of my rules)

caek, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 13:01 (fourteen years ago) link

and then I restart Mail

caek, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 13:01 (fourteen years ago) link

good times

caek, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 13:01 (fourteen years ago) link


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