letz talk abt gucci mane

i think one of the unintroduced tensions in this stuff is the feeling that he's gonna eventually run out of ways to say stuff! like, look at how many images he 'burns' in just that diamonds hook i just quoted ... its like, you feel the need to hear it all cuz at some pt hes just simply gonna run out of ideas ... (admittedly this may be a more fan/obsessive perspective than casual fan one)

i think that too but then he writes a chorus like the one in "excuse me"

stuff like the multiple sweet=cavity lines make me feel like he's not that far off sometimes (although even as i say that "Follow Me" might my favorite song off these recent tapes)

Ummm, maybe he could talk about something other than cars, ice and women?

it seems like every few months he gets stuck on a few different words that populate his songs of that time and then he kind of moves off onto something else. on burrprint/cold war there are lots of uses of "sauna" & i don't think i remember him using "ornament" up until v recently.

not much to that except that maybe he's still got a bunch of words to fixate on and grow off of. kind of just an observation tho.

Ummm, maybe he could talk about something other than cars, ice and women?

― Samuel (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:27 PM (54 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

did u hear "timothy" yet

man I want to be able to re-parse "repetitive" with as much verve as deej does here

i think one thing i like about how he talks about cars, ice & women is ... i always think of one of the first pieces of rap writing that really got me thinking, & it was kelefa sanneh on jay-z right before blueprint dropped -- he was talking about how jay's tendency w/ bragging about that kind of shit was that it was ultimately empty, that jay-z was not a hedonist, he was all about status -- you never know how the champagne tastes, etc -- anyway with gucci its still very much about status, no doubt, but there's also an element of joyousness (and most definitely hedonism) in his descriptions of his status symbols ... they're not 'just' symbols, they color his world -- plus his party songs are obviously far more hedonistic

I was just being dense when I mentioned cars, ice and women. Of course he raps about other stuff. (And yeah, Timothy and Dope Boys from Burrprint are ridic).

Also, DJ Scream - his voice is makes me just think of Westwood at his worst. It's terrible.

i think one thing i like about how he talks about cars, ice & women is ... i always think of one of the first pieces of rap writing that really got me thinking, & it was kelefa sanneh on jay-z right before blueprint dropped -- he was talking about how jay's tendency w/ bragging about that kind of shit was that it was ultimately empty, that jay-z was not a hedonist, he was all about status -- you never know how the champagne tastes, etc -- anyway with gucci its still very much about status, no doubt, but there's also an element of joyousness (and most definitely hedonism) in his descriptions of his status symbols ... they're not 'just' symbols, they color his world -- plus his party songs are obviously far more hedonistic

― i got nothin (deej), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 23:35 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

Makes me think that Wu-Tang might not just influence the beats, the second Ghost verse on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Esme7cRZu7o

seems like a precursor to Gucci's way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7vxgljd3bA

love this new one

That chain is horrible.

ironically, i'm chronically
twisting up that chronic, blinded
blowin smoke out constantly

man I want to be able to re-parse "repetitive" with as much verve as deej does here

― a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:31 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark

this really isn't it though. he just riffs on hyper-specific themes & sometimes he repeats some things to sort of stay grounded, like how a freestyle rapper keeps some rhymes in his head to restart himself

it seems like every few months he gets stuck on a few different words that populate his songs of that time and then he kind of moves off onto something else. on burrprint/cold war there are lots of uses of "sauna" & i don't think i remember him using "ornament" up until v recently.

not much to that except that maybe he's still got a bunch of words to fixate on and grow off of. kind of just an observation tho.

― brrrmuda triangle (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:28 PM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark

would like to add "arizona" to this

deej here is an mp3 of that http://www24.zippyshare.com/v/789628/file.html

great zay beat

this really isn't it though. he just riffs on hyper-specific themes & sometimes he repeats some things to sort of stay grounded, like how a freestyle rapper keeps some rhymes in his head to restart himself

so he's the craig finn of rap is what you're saying

ha kind of

'wasted' could be an h.s. song

this usher / gucci single is infuriating

"no competition" is beautiful but that last verse is just gross. like, eugh.

yeah shame it'll be on the album xpost

i think gucci is writing their verses

really? i'd be surprised, and anyways i meant more just his nasty ass voice

i love gucci's verses on "spotlight", but that hook's uh, unfortunate.

its awful. its so clear whoever conceived that song doesnt get his music at all

it's really a shame - where is the polow of "throw some d's" & "pimpin all over the world" & "get buck"

it's like the record label wanted a ciara record and not a record that could appeal to his rap fanbase & a crossover audience

i mean look at the comments section of the youtube -- its this totally confused cross section of ppl who only like parts of the song not enjoyed by the others

although i think it's pretty clear that gucci has a hard time writing really dope verses on crossover r&b singles. he definitely dumbs himself down, and i think it's a mixture of him not being as creative a lothario as lil wayne & ludacris, and him having in his head an idea of what a crossover verse should be, and it doesn't seem to involve all the things that make him a great rapper

like, wayne & luda improved, and arguably in some sense, made their reps with having unusually awesome verses on would-be boring girl songs. gucci's rep is taking a hit especially because lots of people have first been confronted with him via "break up" & "lol :-)" & now "spotlight"

in some ways i want the song to flop so they release something that's not so head-smackingly obvious & bad, but if it is a huge hit for him then i guess i'll feel okay about it

yeah i mean...i know some of you guys like "lollipop" but it never ceases to amaze me how some rappers can build a following releasing hundreds and hundreds of songs just kinda being themselves and doing what comes naturally, and then when it comes time to make a single end up with some bizarre miscalculation of what their appeal is or what their career needs.

yeah but lollipop wasn't a miscalculation of anything. it was a perfect calculation.

i def. agree that gucci is dumbing himself down on the big rnb verses but 'girls are like buses, miss one next 15 one comin, which is definitely his most popular line with mainstream listeners (which some random entourage member cites as such on one of the recent mixtapes), is pretty weird and essential gucci, when it comes down to it. so i think there's hope.

he just riffs on hyper-specific themes & sometimes he repeats some things to sort of stay grounded,

i know this is prob a trite analogy but this is the type of stuff that brings me back to gucci...he comes from a jazz impulse rather a blues or gospel one...he has his musical parameters, his favorite lyrical themes, and just goes in on them, improvising slightly with each new verse but always retuning to some grounded base that changes slightly with each new song. it's nothing new being repetitive, when a musician is in that zone and they're a virtuoso no one should top them.

by musical parameters I mean ZAYTOVEN!!! not a bad rhythm section

also xp: *"stop them" not "top them

i'm white boy wasted tonight...oj/wacka was fun btw

jk

forks, fyi couldnt get near it. good job

the first verse of "trap goin crazy" is a close cousin of "wonderful" imo

i barely know him, but shine blockas, the new big boi song, is incredible and he's on it

colder than a penguin
drinkin
ice cold water in new england

rivals frozen crystals in the cigarillos for me

six girl sleepin over it's a slumber party
house so big yeah i be usin walkie talkies

not to make any judgment on which one is better, but so far i'm liking brrrussia over burrprint. for all the latter's lyrical charms i think i just prefer gucci in party mode. beats and hooks on brrrussia are just unbelievably fun

i don't think ya feel me like i'm feelin myself
you suckas hate on gucci man that's bad for ya health
generate cars clothes women and wealth
so you hate on a kid just like you hate on yourself

that song is actually from the first THE MOVIE from last year

dj holiday got lazy. kinda surprised they decided to fill the tape out w a song that was on probably his biggest tape.

really dope chorus tho

it's called "feelin myself" on that tape

i barely know him, but shine blockas, the new big boi song, is incredible and he's on it

― FACK, Thursday, October 22, 2009 5:52 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

haha deej gonna rip your head off, man

i kinda thought that was a goon sock tbh

I have already reported FACK to SOCKSPOTTING 2009 authorities

50 cent feat. gucci - crime wave

d-_-b

link plz

check traps n trunks

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