Words, usages, and phrases that annoy the shit out of you...

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"on the pull"

oops (Oops), Thursday, 18 August 2005 17:39 (eighteen years ago) link

i overheard two people speaking in englsih the other day and one of them said "canada is freaky fucking cold" i controlled myself not to punch him right away

chupa-cabra, Thursday, 18 August 2005 17:49 (eighteen years ago) link

'Cukes' for cucumbers.
'Purple onions' when they're talking about red onions.

STOP TRYING TO BE COOL WITH VEGETABLES

chrisco (chrisco), Thursday, 18 August 2005 17:52 (eighteen years ago) link

"canada is freaky fucking cold"

yep, did you know that toronto has the EXACT SAME CLIMATE as ellesmere island?

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 18 August 2005 17:55 (eighteen years ago) link

I loathe every one of these words and phrases you have listed and for the very same reasons listed. In particular, marketing buzz words bug the s--t out of me (anyone recall "buzzword bingo" a game played in meetings about 10 years ago?) I also hate "ditto". Ditto is punctuation, not a way to say “I feel the same”! The bastardization of language in general bothers me. I sound like an old fogy, but it disturbs me that kids are learning this crap as acceptable language when it is not acceptable at all. When broadcasters and journalists use it on the air it makes me cringe and I get angry as it perpetuates the myth that these terms are adequate substitutions for legitimate language skills. If it continues, the true language will be lost entirely just from laziness and the fear of offending some segments of the population, from kids to adults of all cultures and races. Why are governments and such so afraid these days to offend? Fear of lawsuits? Or is it excellent PR from cultural preservation groups? What is the deal?

Don’t even get me started on how Ebonics should simply be accepted in schools and not corrected by educators as a politically correct cultural acceptance.

Do you think I feel strongly about this topic? You bet. However, I find myself hypocritical since I use shortcuts in emails and on these posts often; however I would not think of doing it in a business email or conversationally. I'll stand down from my soap-box now.

Wiggy (Wiggy), Thursday, 18 August 2005 18:16 (eighteen years ago) link

didn't they give up on ebonics (because of all the controversy)?

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 18 August 2005 18:22 (eighteen years ago) link

this woman at work says "you welcome" rather than you're welcome about 20 times a day on the phone. i wish i could have her fired.

andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Thursday, 18 August 2005 18:35 (eighteen years ago) link

"Thank you much."

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 August 2005 18:46 (eighteen years ago) link

HAVE A GREAT DAY

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 18 August 2005 18:47 (eighteen years ago) link

"Thank you much."

this doesn't bother me, but it's a little obnoxious when people linger on the "ccccccchhhhhhhhhhhhhh" sound at the end.

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 18 August 2005 18:48 (eighteen years ago) link

"can i help who's next?"

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 18 August 2005 18:50 (eighteen years ago) link

what's wrong with "may i help the next person?"

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 18 August 2005 18:51 (eighteen years ago) link

dawg (when used by white people)

whatknot

fauxhemian (fauxhemian), Thursday, 18 August 2005 19:02 (eighteen years ago) link

also, when people stupidly misspell annoying words...

'whatnot'

fauxhemian (fauxhemian), Thursday, 18 August 2005 19:03 (eighteen years ago) link

xxpost: it must be tough being you

Outsider Enter Port City (sexyDancer), Thursday, 18 August 2005 19:04 (eighteen years ago) link

what's wrong with "may i help the next person?"

There's actually a certain economy to "Can I help who's next?" that makes sense, I think, given the circumstances in which it's usually used. Plus, it allows you to put the stress on the next, since it's at the end, so that if the addressee isn't really paying attention, they'll at least hear "blah blah blah blah NEXT?"

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 August 2005 19:06 (eighteen years ago) link

valorize
privilege, as a verb
waitperson's questions in present progressive

M. V. (M.V.), Thursday, 18 August 2005 19:08 (eighteen years ago) link

xxpost: it must be tough being you

every day is a struggle for survival. < /puts hand to forehead and faints>

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 18 August 2005 19:20 (eighteen years ago) link

When people lose their train of thought, pause, and say "Gosh, I gone braindead" makes me want to start ripping out some feeding tubes.

Also, the word "manchild" makes me uncomfortable.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 18 August 2005 19:24 (eighteen years ago) link

"Gosh, I gone braindead"

I've never heard this, but I kind of despise "brain fart."

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 August 2005 19:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Dude, does anybody properly remember what the Ebonics thing was actually about? Half of the whole point was to say "these kids aren't coming to us speaking standard English; we need to acknowledge the way they speak as another dialect so we can devote time in the curriculum to teaching them standard English as a sort of second language. And maybe get funding for that. And maybe in the meantime just let the language thing go when we're trying to teach them, like, math."

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 18 August 2005 19:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Brains farting is like white people saying "dawg." Poser brains are trying to co-opt all the cool stuff the butt comes up with.

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 18 August 2005 19:32 (eighteen years ago) link

There's actually a certain economy to "Can I help who's next?" that makes sense, I think, given the circumstances in which it's usually used. Plus, it allows you to put the stress on the next, since it's at the end, so that if the addressee isn't really paying attention, they'll at least hear "blah blah blah blah NEXT?"

the stressed-"NEXT" part makes sense, it's just the "can i help who's" that makes me tear my hair out.

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 18 August 2005 19:36 (eighteen years ago) link

People making 5 bucks an hour caught in not using perfect english shocker.

Outsider Enter Port City (sexyDancer), Thursday, 18 August 2005 19:42 (eighteen years ago) link

"can i help who's next?"

This is great if the next person in line happens to be Pete Townshend.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 18 August 2005 19:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Nabisco OTM re: ebonics. It annoys me how often the idea is misunderstood or deliberately misrepresented.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 18 August 2005 19:46 (eighteen years ago) link

"Dude, does anybody properly remember what the Ebonics thing?"

You used "thing"!

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 18 August 2005 19:49 (eighteen years ago) link

AAVE (formerly BVE) has been around as a recognized dialect long before the Ebonics craze -- that was a classic case of the media blowing up a language issue because it's controversial. Does anyone remember when the jogger was attacked in Central Park? There was a media outcry against "wilding." What the kid actually said was that they "did the wild thing." Not that the media outcry over "wilding" and Ebonics is the same, I admit it's a tangent, but what the linguists wanted originally was, iirc, to acknowledge that AAVE has rules and is a verifiable dialect rather than a "bastardization" of English.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 18 August 2005 19:55 (eighteen years ago) link

ax anybody...

Outsider Enter Port City (sexyDancer), Thursday, 18 August 2005 19:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, hate to be pednatic (don't really), but:

cooler-than-thou disinterest in the event

A *lot* of people get this wrong. To be disinterested is not to be uninterested. It's to have a lack of stock in the outcome (ie, "Jack, not a taxpayer himself, remains politically disinterested is this issue."). This does not mean that Jack is uninterested in the issue, but just that he has nothing to gain or lose from it.

paulhw (paulhw), Thursday, 18 August 2005 19:58 (eighteen years ago) link

people mix up "un- " and "dis- " and "mis- " all the time! they're not interchangeable!

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 18 August 2005 20:11 (eighteen years ago) link

The misspelling 'rediculous', for some reason, bugs me more than any other; I think because I can't work out any sort of phonetic reason for it.

spontine (cis), Thursday, 18 August 2005 20:12 (eighteen years ago) link

"I could care less about..."

Then, you're implying that you do care, if not just a little.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 18 August 2005 20:13 (eighteen years ago) link

The misspelling 'rediculous', for some reason, bugs me more than any other; I think because I can't work out any sort of phonetic reason for it.

especially since it's an adjective of "ridicule," which i've never seen ANYONE spell "redicule."

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 18 August 2005 20:16 (eighteen years ago) link

1) "...As it were."
2) "...if you will."
3) "... the [X] that is [Y]" (e.g.) "The powerhouse that is John Cale."

Remy (x Jeremy), Thursday, 18 August 2005 20:18 (eighteen years ago) link

2) "...if you will."

i like "if you'll allow" better.

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 18 August 2005 20:24 (eighteen years ago) link

SPORTSCASTER: [insert generic inquiry here]
ATHLETE OR COACH: No question about it, [insert generic answer here]

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 18 August 2005 20:28 (eighteen years ago) link

it JUST DOESN'T GET any better than this.

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 18 August 2005 20:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Bad usages are legion. So many people should die.
First, we kill the impact-as-verbers. Save impact for meteorites. Impacted for BOWELS.
On a daily basis.
To be perfectly honest (always preceding BIG FAT LIE).
Labor-intensive (childbirth?)
Empowerment.

Beth Parker, Thursday, 18 August 2005 20:43 (eighteen years ago) link

only one mention of "proactive"? and by that roger adultery guy

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 18 August 2005 20:48 (eighteen years ago) link

the one time i heard someone use the phrase "crunch some numbers" in total seriousness, it required every ounce of my strength to not annihilate him where he stood.

i will also echo the "rediculous" hatred and submit "definately" and all related butcherings of D-E-F-I-N-I-T-E-L-Y, PEOPLE, for the love of...

joseph (joseph), Thursday, 18 August 2005 23:10 (eighteen years ago) link

I hate it when people write 'tow the line' instead of 'toe the line'.

estela (estela), Thursday, 18 August 2005 23:14 (eighteen years ago) link

"crunch some numbers" is kinda cute!

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 18 August 2005 23:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Two things that totally drive me crazy:

1. Seeing "could of" or "should of" or "would of"
2. "The hell with..." - this can't be right. It must be "to hell with...", but I've seen the former version in print so many times I'm starting to wonder. But even if "the hell with..." is somehow correct, I still despise it with all my soul.

zayats, Thursday, 18 August 2005 23:26 (eighteen years ago) link

I hate it when people write 'tow the line' instead of 'toe the line'.

here here! (sic)

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 18 August 2005 23:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Based on this thread, we are all guilty of follies and should be slain.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 18 August 2005 23:47 (eighteen years ago) link

It's been said that the disinterested/uninterested distinction is one that was called to attention by Fowler as a pet cause, and it's unknown whether it would be seen as such a bugaboo without his lead.

Geoffrey Nunberg in The Atlantic:

Unbiased and impartial will not do the work that disinterested used to be reserved for. But there is no point making a fuss about this change, because it was forgone that disinterested would lose its older sense once interested lost the sense of "having a stake in," which we retain only in the fixed phrase interested party. Even if disinterested had survived intact, therefore, it would eventually have become one of those curious asymmetric negatives like untoward and disgrace, whose senses are not recoverable as the sum of their parts. Invoking the second criterion, we should be prepared to admit that the fight on behalf of disinterested is a "lost cause," as Trilling described it. This may be an occasion for regret, but indignation would be out of place. Isaac Asimov writes, "I'm very proud of knowing the distinction, and insist on it, correcting others freely." The fact that being familiar with a distinction can be a cause for self-congratulation is, however, reason to eliminate it from the canons of standard usage, which should not be repositories of grammatical arcane.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 18 August 2005 23:50 (eighteen years ago) link

I hate people who write "draw" instead of "drawer" (the things you store your cutlery in etc). DRAWER, people. IT ISNT A PEN.

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 18 August 2005 23:52 (eighteen years ago) link

panties

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Thursday, 18 August 2005 23:53 (eighteen years ago) link

when someone in the uk says 'do the math', my blood starts to boil.

stirmonster (stirmonster), Thursday, 18 August 2005 23:54 (eighteen years ago) link


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