Sarah Silverman: Funny or not? Hot or not?

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Are you on AIM and can you send these to me so I can listen?

ModJ (ModJ), Thursday, 8 January 2004 05:39 (twenty years ago) link

I like her!

latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 8 January 2004 07:42 (twenty years ago) link

She totally looks like Melissa Rivers, btw.

Allyzay, Thursday, 8 January 2004 15:44 (twenty years ago) link

Well that's a right cold shower.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 8 January 2004 17:17 (twenty years ago) link

It is true, though.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Thursday, 8 January 2004 17:18 (twenty years ago) link

a Melissa Rivers who looks like she could actually hold a conversation, perhaps.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 8 January 2004 17:25 (twenty years ago) link

How does someone "look like they can hold a conversation"? Define conversation anyway, SS is like the definition of obnoxious. I mean not that Jimmy Fallon isn't but at least I never pretended I could hold a conversation with him.

Allyzay, Thursday, 8 January 2004 17:26 (twenty years ago) link

I'm actually really curious, if you know nothing about these two women besides what they look like, how on earth does Sarah Silverman "look like she can hold a conversation" and Melissa Rivers doesn't? They're like clones for christ's sake!

Allyzay, Thursday, 8 January 2004 17:28 (twenty years ago) link

So hot. And I'm not even into Jewish girls, usually.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 8 January 2004 17:34 (twenty years ago) link

I mean not that Jimmy Fallon isn't but at least I never pretended I could hold a conversation with him.

It's not like you posted a thread question to him!

bnw (bnw), Thursday, 8 January 2004 17:34 (twenty years ago) link

I've seen both interviewed on TV, so perhaps I'm not really able to say they "look" a certain way or not. Big vacant smiles vs. smirking, really.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 8 January 2004 17:35 (twenty years ago) link

It wasn't a difficult question, bnw.

haha Anthony, I've seen plenty of people who smirk/scowl all goddamn day who cannot even manage a basic conversation their lack of social skills is so bad. You potentially lose either way. Britney Spears has a big vacant smile but I'd rather have a conversation with her than with Silverman based on tv interviews/specials I've seen with both.

Allyzay, Thursday, 8 January 2004 17:40 (twenty years ago) link

If I got stuck having to hold a conversation with either of those women I'm pretty sure I'd snap within a few minutes. MORE DRINKS OVER HERE PLZ

TOMBOT, Thursday, 8 January 2004 17:43 (twenty years ago) link

I wouldn't worry too much, it's not like any of these women would give any ILXor the time of day so there's no worry of boredom-based alcohol poisoning!!

Allyzay, Thursday, 8 January 2004 17:46 (twenty years ago) link

I kinda regretted the smile vs. smirk thing as soon as I wrote it. It's really more based on the interviews that made me have any preference between the two. But honestly the thing I like most about Sarah Silverman is that she'd admit to dating Jimmy Kimmel. I think that's rad.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 8 January 2004 17:48 (twenty years ago) link

I think I would have to sock Jimmy Fallon for his constant mugging.

bnw (bnw), Thursday, 8 January 2004 17:48 (twenty years ago) link

I wish rapid aging on the sonuvabitch.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 8 January 2004 17:49 (twenty years ago) link

I would pay $10,000 to see a bnw/Jimmy Fallon fist fight.

Allyzay, Thursday, 8 January 2004 17:49 (twenty years ago) link

He is like a 40 year old still using makeoutclub.

bnw (bnw), Thursday, 8 January 2004 17:49 (twenty years ago) link

Fallon should wake up tomorrow with Mick Jagger's face. Let's see if he gets away with cracking up out of character then.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 8 January 2004 17:50 (twenty years ago) link

but the Mick Jagger-in-the-mirror bit was Fallon's best sketch ever!

"I like the young guy who plays the new-agey piano. he's short, wears New Balance, does the late-night talk show circuit.

-- Aaron A. (__...), May 8th, 2003."

you mean Zach Galifinakis, host of the short-lived "Late World with Zach" on VH1? that guy is great. so was the show, despite its abysmal ratings.

Mitch Hedberg has some good jokes (especially the one about soup of the day: "we need to make a decision, I want to know what the soup-from-now-on is"), but his schtick is just too much of a Steven Wright ripoff, except he comes off less deadpan and more brain-damaged.

Tina Fey and Sarah Silverman are both funnier than they are hott, but in both cases it's a winning combo.

Al (sitcom), Thursday, 8 January 2004 18:49 (twenty years ago) link

clearly Silverman is way bigger.

Al (sitcom), Thursday, 8 January 2004 19:00 (twenty years ago) link

I haven't heard a single joke the woman has ever told, but based on the pictures of her, I'm going with the "not hot." Eh, better make that "not my type."

Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Thursday, 8 January 2004 19:08 (twenty years ago) link

I've always found her to be hot. Her stuff on Crank Yankers can be good sometimes too, although there've been a couple sketches where she's taken the joke way too far.

may pang (maypang), Thursday, 8 January 2004 19:12 (twenty years ago) link

haven't heard a single joke the woman has ever told
you'll hear all 3 of them sooner or later.

she is kindof a cutie-pie tho.

dyson (dyson), Thursday, 8 January 2004 19:19 (twenty years ago) link

she's dating Kimmel? ehhhhh.

She's still pretty hot. the dirty mouth thing only holds up if she's a whore in the sack though. And I mean that in a good way. There's nothing worse than someone with a really dirty mouth who is horrible in bed. Especially if this person is attractive.

don weiner, Thursday, 8 January 2004 20:32 (twenty years ago) link

eight months pass...
haha - i was about to start a SS thread and wondering whether i should call it "funny or not?" or "hot or not?" and LO AND BEHOLD!

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 08:18 (nineteen years ago) link

answer: both, of course.

Yeah, I think Lenny Bruce dates extraordinarilty badly. A routine about Hitler being inducted by a talent agency was riotous and egdy as hell in 1957, I'm sure, but who needs that when you've got Mel Brooks? I admire Lenny Bruce, but he doesn't make me laugh.

i think Lenny Bruce is still funny, but he admittedly requires some getting adjusted to. the first time i heard his stuff i was really disappointed, but i love it now. it helps to read a bit about his life beforehand so you're not totally lost when he starts going on about his court cases (his descriptions of which are totally hysterical).

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 08:27 (nineteen years ago) link

not hot.

AaronK (AaronK), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 11:27 (nineteen years ago) link

admittedly she looks pretty bad in all the pics of her posted to this thread.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 12:08 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
Good Slate article on Silverman

Confounded (Confounded), Monday, 14 November 2005 15:49 (eighteen years ago) link

A Playboy interviewer, probing for something salacious, once asked Silverman if she had a nickname for her vagina. She answered "Faggot"—a throwaway joke that manages to kink sexual identity into such an ingenious pretzel it could fuel a doctoral dissertation.

The writing's a bit much.

kingfish cold slither (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 14 November 2005 16:06 (eighteen years ago) link

I think it's probably better than the New Yorker article, half of which was devoted to just recapping her act. (I'm worried that with all the press I've been reading about Silverman that by the time I get around seeing Jesus is Magic I'll already know all the jokes.)

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 14 November 2005 16:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Just read the NYer article and skip the movie, you'll save like 5 bucks.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 14 November 2005 16:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Ebert's review of her movie is great.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 14 November 2005 16:26 (eighteen years ago) link

It was a tad condescending. But since I don't really like Silverman I didn't care.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 14 November 2005 16:28 (eighteen years ago) link

I do think she was the best part of The Aristocrats -- or at least I laughed longer and harder at her version than anyone else's.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 14 November 2005 16:31 (eighteen years ago) link

AO Scott's review of her movie = LOL PWNED

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 14 November 2005 16:32 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.heebmagazine.com/images/magazine/issue9.jpg

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 14 November 2005 16:33 (eighteen years ago) link

I like Silverman. I don't think she's quite as cerebral as people are wont to make her out, though. I think that because they look for stuff to write about they read stuff into her jokes, whereas she just has a sense of what's funny and goes with it. Also, I think she's hot.

M. White (Miguelito), Monday, 14 November 2005 16:34 (eighteen years ago) link

I think the fact that she finds Jimmy Kimmel to be a suitable example of a male specimen for humping betrays as much as what M. said.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 14 November 2005 16:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Through her stand-up, however, Silverman has become an important member of a guerrilla vanguard in the culture wars that we might call the "meta-bigots"—other members include the South Park kids, Sacha Baron Cohen's "Ali G", and the now-AWOL Dave Chappelle. The meta-bigots work at social problems indirectly; instead of discussing race, rape, abortion, incest, or mass starvation, they parody our discussions of them. They manipulate stereotypes about stereotypes. It's a dangerous game: If you're humorless, distracted, or even just inordinately history-conscious, meta-bigotry can look suspiciously like actual bigotry.


Ali G?!

Anyhoo, I hate this line of reasoning, which we've talked about on here before. It's as if there is nothing you can't say, from more well-meaning satire to straight-out racist shit, that you can't retreat from just by saying "Oh, it was just a joke! Get a sense of humor whydoncha!"

kingfish cold slither (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 14 November 2005 16:40 (eighteen years ago) link

I kinda hate Heeb but that cover is clever. To tell the truth, I kinda hate Heeb but every time I look at it I have to concede that they do funny conceptual photo shoots, e.g. the Beastie Boys dreidel shot.

I crushed out on SS majorly when she was on Saturday Night Live -- 1993? 1994? Funny.

Guayaquil (eephus), Monday, 14 November 2005 16:47 (eighteen years ago) link

also, it seems that the concept that so many of these write-ups are searching for is "transgressive humor"; reaffirming our standards(conservative or not) by deliberately going beyond them. I think it's much the same way that Stern's radio show works...

kingfish cold slither (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 14 November 2005 16:52 (eighteen years ago) link

i gotta say i think she is fucking hilarious

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:43 (eighteen years ago) link

The thing about that "meta-bigot" construction is that I think it really does apply to Silverman, at her best -- and so lumping her in with those others gives a couple of them more credit than they probably deserve. Most of the time this kind of humor is either just about the "transgression" of dealing in the same old bigoted ideas or stereotypes, or else it's the even more tiring thing of white men being awkward about dealing with people who are different from them (that's more a TV thing, I suppose), but a good Silverman joke actually does do all that mindbendy twisting-around stuff the article gets a little overheated about trying to describe: telling a black man "You would have made a really expensive slave" is total twisty anti-bigot, with half the humor coming from the idea that for a long time we really genuinely did value people in exactly that way.

Okay but on another tip here: what the hell, is Mike Kinsley having an affair with Silverman, or something? Last week there were like three separate Silverman articles on Slate, and one of them kept getting bounced up the sidebar, and then today I log on and her face is like blasting out from the center pane: is she paying them?

nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 14 November 2005 18:01 (eighteen years ago) link

I wonder what her Halloween costume was.

theoritical prius (dr g), Monday, 14 November 2005 18:11 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't think Mike Kinsley is involved with Slate anymore

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 14 November 2005 18:14 (eighteen years ago) link

I haven't heard enough to judge yet, tho "Joe Franklin raped me" was a good laugh line in The Aristocrats.

I sincerely doubt she deserves the Lenny Bruce comparisons, as she's not been arrested for her craft.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 14 November 2005 18:19 (eighteen years ago) link


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