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Also - Stevem = Les 'McDanger' wallace:


Dave B (daveb), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 20:22 (twenty years ago) link

'he's stitched that boy up like a kipper then.'

haha i liked the sympathetic patronising of bobby george re: the merv the swerv situation ('merv's bang aht of order, lad's just a young boy, just in the country, 'is english ain't too good...'); how's yr dutch, bobby?

david. (Cozen), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 21:15 (twenty years ago) link

I tried sitting through Bobby explaining the rules of darts in East Anglia. I failed.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 21:22 (twenty years ago) link

But his proposed rule change to prevent ugly Merv ever doing such a thing again was breathtaking in its simplicity. I was thinking - why isn't the rule like this?

The Dazzler for BDO Commissioner in WWF Stylee.

Dave B (daveb), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 21:25 (twenty years ago) link

Play has kicked off for this evening, first match already finished, not fussed about it cos the three that follow are much more interesting. Shall I spoil the result?

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 21:28 (twenty years ago) link

Though actually, you could just go to the BBC site and find it yerself.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 21:28 (twenty years ago) link

haha 'the painter'!!!! sorry.

don't spoil the result!

david. (Cozen), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 21:28 (twenty years ago) link

Aright then.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 21:29 (twenty years ago) link

I'm really sad to be missing a lot of this. always enjoyed the sight of female dutch fans (oh, and darts is brilliant TV).

yesterday I caught a bit of the highlights. Godd to see the fans giving mervyn king a hard time.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 21:33 (twenty years ago) link

I was listening to him threatening to quit darts for good last night on the radio "I could be making better money elsewhere you know" and he sounded very very bitter about it all. Hardly dartings loss though?

I can't get into theis tournament at all though, not like the PDC one.

chris (chris), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 09:51 (twenty years ago) link

Last night's results:

Paul Hogan (Eng) 1-3 Raymond van Barneveld (Ned, 1)
Robert Wagner (Nor) 1-3 John Walton (Eng, 8)
Andy Fordham (Eng) 3-0 Tony West (Eng, 5)
James Wade (Eng) 0-3 Darryl Fitton (Eng)

Barney looked like he was starting to hit stride against Hogan, and is probably favourite - he should certainly get past Walton, who can't hit doubles for love nor money at present.

However, Fordham and particularly Fitton looked to be in top form last night too - their match on Thursday looks like being the match of the tournament thus far.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 17:35 (twenty years ago) link

I want tony O'Shea to do well. He seems like a nice guy, and after Monk beat him last year, I want to see him do well.

Barney had double trouble too last night - not as bad as Walton, mind. I'm still thinking you're going to have to beat Barney to win (ie, the winner is going to be Barney or the person who beats him)

Dave B (daveb), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 17:44 (twenty years ago) link

On those lines - the places where the seeds should be in the draw are all currently being filled by the men who knocked them out, which isn't that remarkable I suppose, except the trend will probably be repeated tonight by O'Shea and Davies. Possible eerie prescience there... Barneveld versus Fordham or Fitton would really be good.

I want O'Shea to do well cos he looks like one of the characters from Tintin.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 17:47 (twenty years ago) link

Specifically, the feller on the bottom right - Professor Tarragon, I think his name is.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 17:52 (twenty years ago) link

i keep wanting to work in "hardly darting's loss though?" on other threads but i can't fingure out a good time to say it, strangely

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 18:00 (twenty years ago) link

Stephen Bunting (Eng) 0-3 Ted Hankey (Eng, 2)
Gary Robson (Eng) 2-3 Tony O'Shea (Eng)
Steve Duke (Aus) 0-3 Ritchie Davies (Wal)
Jarkko Komula (Fin) 2-3 Mervyn King (Eng, 3)

For atmosphere, the King-Komula match was probably the biggest of the tournament thus far. The Dutch contingent, along with several others by the sound of it, are still deeply pissed off with King's conduct in his first-round match. Bobby still reckons he was bang out of order. King's decision to call his detractors 'small-minded people' probably hasn't helped matters very much either.

However - Komula played the part of cult hero to perfection. Looking like Paul Calf's miserable Finnish cousin, he found himself two sets down before swinging it round in an interminable leg where King missed a string of doubles, letting him in for a finish that he hadn't imagined he'd have the opportunity to take. He was so taken aback by this that, for the first time anyone at all could remember, Jarkko Komula smiled. The hall erupted, Komula was suddenly on form, took the leg, then the set, then the set after that... but it couldn't last. King got his rhythm back just as Jarkko lost his and took the final set fairly easily.

Like it or not, King is probably the player who has the most attention now due to his controversial actions. Any match of his is going to have a fair degree of needle to it. Stubbsy and Bobby are dreaming of a Barney-King final... but King's got to get past Davies first, and he's in superb form at the moment. Then, if he does that, he'll have to get through the even-more-in-form Ted Hankey or Tony O'Shea.

The quarter-finals are thus:

Raymond van Barneveld (Ned, 1) v John Walton (Eng, 8)
Andy Fordham (Eng) v Darryl Fitton (Eng)
Ted Hankey (Eng, 2) v Tony O'Shea (Eng)
Ritchie Davies (Wal) v Mervyn King (Eng, 3)

It's hard to see Barney losing to Walton, but other than that this is wide open. Fordham and Fitton are pretty much impossible to separate at present. Hankey won more comfortably than O'Shea this evening, but he really had to work to get through the first round against Colin Monk. O'Shea was also regularly getting in treble 20, and would most likely fancy his chances against anyone. As for King and Davies - both have looked quite solid thus far, but the crowd for their match will be something else...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 8 January 2004 04:51 (twenty years ago) link

I predict a Barney vs Fordham semi (arf!) with barney winning; he'll play the winner of O'Shea vs Davies.

Last night's action - good matches I thought. Stephen 'future of darts' Bunting blew it when he had double 8 for the second set; as Bobby George might say - he's got the ability to waste, but ain't a proper darter in 'is 'ead yet.

O'Shea - Robson was a good match - both would have been worthy winners, but O'Shea progressed with excellent scoring. I like O'Shea. he falls into my 'looks like a nice guy so i'll support him strategy'. He takes over this mantle from Steve 'The' Duke.

I liked Steve a lot and he was my dark horse in Tony David stylee. I also like his celebration when getting a leg, which mirrors my own (apart from my own being rarely seen obv). His game against Davies was really interesting; all three sets went down to the odd leg in 5. Good ding-dong stuff, which also showed the ups and downs of the game. For example, Steve Duke broke to go 2-2 in the second with a great 144 checkout, and so had the darts for the decider; a wayward first dart upped the pressure and so he didn't punish. Davies had a chance to punish and took it, and so the second slipped away. The two players were very evenly matched in terms of averages and even checkouts, but the crucial difference was in timing. Davies just did what he had to do when had to do it, as opposed to doing it when he should or could have done it - ie, when getting 2-1 up in a set, he won the decider each time, but seemed sanguine about losing the 4th leg for example. Also, when he needed to pressurise Steve, he did. Steve dug out some great legs but his initial waywardness cost him and he was always playing catch up from the start, and Davies was too consistent to get rattled by Steve's dogged pursuit.

No comment on King - Komula as WBS v. OTM.

Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 8 January 2004 09:03 (twenty years ago) link

i thought the "who could never imagine smiling" thread was about komula, but no such luck...

when they first showed bunter, sorry bunting last night, me and meg both said in unison "he's never bloody eighteen".

also looooooooooook:

http://www.barney.nl

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Thursday, 8 January 2004 15:34 (twenty years ago) link

has anyone else seen that lovebite on ted hankeys neck?
looking forward to the fordham/fitton match.....

zappi (joni), Thursday, 8 January 2004 15:39 (twenty years ago) link

They have proper magazines in Holland! Look! All you could ever need to know about Steve Coote - ever!

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 8 January 2004 15:50 (twenty years ago) link

Also check Co Stompe'sWBS's Website

Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 8 January 2004 15:53 (twenty years ago) link

New Series - Darts players With Guns:

Co Stompe


William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 8 January 2004 15:57 (twenty years ago) link

Mieke de Boer

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 8 January 2004 15:58 (twenty years ago) link

Martin Adams & Andy Fordham

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 8 January 2004 16:02 (twenty years ago) link

Wayne Mardle

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 8 January 2004 16:03 (twenty years ago) link

jebus, mary chain, mungo and midge! they are some of the scariest photos i've ever seen...

i was trying not to think about whether that was a love bite on hankey's neck (it could be a heat spot caused by excessive nylon shirt wearing or a boil or anything).

also note that gun looks small in andy fordham's hand because he is a GIANT OF A MAN.

also also FAP here: http://www.andythevikingfordham.com/index.php?pageval=biography.php (scroll right to the bottom)

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Thursday, 8 January 2004 16:13 (twenty years ago) link

Bambi! Darts! Dutch! Guns! Glasses to remove and let hair down in 'but you're beautiful kind of way.

Faints

Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 8 January 2004 16:15 (twenty years ago) link

Andy was a keen track and field athlete and gained the nickname "The Whippet"...

The rest as they say is history and the story of how The Whippet became The Viking.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 8 January 2004 16:17 (twenty years ago) link

off topic .. CarsmileSteve ..did you just get your real name namechecked on 6 Music? re ipods

DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 8 January 2004 16:20 (twenty years ago) link

Gee Andy! If I was your girlfriend then I could have some of your pub and darts-tastic lifestyle.

Seriously though - given our utter and abject failure to get a trip sorted, we must do this. We could stop off at the Angerstein Arms (near Westcombe Park station) first, to see where it all began, then back onto the train to Woolwich. I am also pleased to support this FAP as it is 10 minutes from my house. Rar!

Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 8 January 2004 16:21 (twenty years ago) link

who me? possibly, that should be on the "thing" thread though shouldn't it ;)

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Thursday, 8 January 2004 16:21 (twenty years ago) link

I don't think that's his girlfriend, she is just a Andy Fordham fan. With a T-Shirt.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 8 January 2004 16:23 (twenty years ago) link

ha ! "the thing" indeed - with a bullseye checkout! for my detection work

DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 8 January 2004 16:24 (twenty years ago) link

we'd have to tell meg's mate who is currently living in guildford if we do go to vikingpub, as she'd never forgive us if we went without her ;)

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Thursday, 8 January 2004 16:24 (twenty years ago) link

I know - it was a piss poor attempt at interthreaduality. Apologies to the world for this attempt. I shan't ever try again.

Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 8 January 2004 16:24 (twenty years ago) link

those darters w. guns pics are terrifying and hilarious.

cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 8 January 2004 18:16 (twenty years ago) link

34.61!

(William, give us another run-down of the events of yesterday evening if you like, I've really enjoyed them so far!)

willem (willem), Friday, 9 January 2004 10:44 (twenty years ago) link

Barney 5-1 Walton
Fordham 5-4 Fitton

My. GOD. Barneveld was, in a word, unbelievable. He was knocking in 180's like there was no tomorrow, almost every dart seemed to be hitting the treble twenty, he was regularly getting checkouts in triple figures and just as you thought he wouldn't get them, he did. He was throwing scoring darts almost perfectly, and hardly ever missed doubles - but the really amazing thing was that Walton was having his best game of the tournament as well. His finishing troubles from the Wagner match looked dead and buried, and he was getting the treble twenties fairly regularly - in other words, he was playing just like when he won the title in 2001. Only problem - Barney didn't let him get a dart in edgeways. His mistakes were small, but crucial - he only seemed to be able to get legs and sets when Barney gave him the opportunity, and if he missed his chance, he never got a second one. Incredible.

The prospects aren't that great for The Viking in the semi-final then - Walton's 3-dart average was better than both his and Fitton's. Then again, they went the full slog, and it was just as good as anticipated - two players near or at the top of their respective games trading back and forth, back and forth. Fordham looked sweaty, probably because he is, but he was holding his nerve. So was Fitton. The end of set eight was nailbiting. Fordham had bull for the match - threw, the tip hit the wire and glanced into outer bull. Fitton nailed double top first time out, 4-4 - had Andy blown it? no. Came back strong, and won the match with - bullseye.The amazing thing was how relaxed they both were, laughing and joking with each other between legs - like Bobby George said, "Proper darts".

If he wasn't before, Barney has to be the red-hot favourite now. You can't see Fordham stopping him, unless he's really right on top of his game, and to do that you have to finish with no margin for error. Fordham's finishing wasn't bad last night, but whether it'll be good enough to beat Barney... doubt it. Oddly enough, the one player who's been finishing that well that it might trouble Barney is the feller he beat last year, Richie Davies. Still, he has to get through tonight's "Welcome To Hell" encounter first...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 9 January 2004 11:22 (twenty years ago) link

They also had a women's semi-final last night, Trina Gulliver beating Karin Krappen 2-0. It's weird, the women shouldn't be any worse than the men, yet somehow they are - Gulliver seems a fair cut above the others, and she'd probably only make the second round of the men's competition at best.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 9 January 2004 12:26 (twenty years ago) link

Thanks. :-)

referring to the eerie pictures upthread, here's two lines from OutKast's "Happy Valentine's Day" (just happened to be listening to it)

Now when arrows don't penetrate, see
Cupid grabs the pistol

willem (willem), Friday, 9 January 2004 12:57 (twenty years ago) link

the women shouldn't be any worse than the men, yet somehow they are

maybe there aren't as many women players around, not the ones who really want to take up darts professionally (less viewers, smaller price money i'd imagine). and less players = less chance of there being someone sad enough to practice darts day in day out, which you'd have to to be any good.

I am only speculating though.

ken c (ken c), Friday, 9 January 2004 13:00 (twenty years ago) link

That is a factor, I guess - there are only 8 people in the women's tournament, and it's only been on telly properly in the past couple of years. It's a peculiar state of affairs.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 9 January 2004 13:02 (twenty years ago) link

i really can't see anyone beating barney now (unless andy fordham sits on him), he's on fire...

we want barney vs the power!!!

wasn't trina in the main competition a few years back? i'm sure there was a woman in the first round once...

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Friday, 9 January 2004 13:03 (twenty years ago) link

That was PDC - Gayl King, of Canada. Lost 3-1, I think.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 9 January 2004 13:04 (twenty years ago) link

i think the BDO did as well, might be (at least) 10 years ago the more i think about it...

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Friday, 9 January 2004 13:20 (twenty years ago) link

There's been a Barney - Taylor match a few years back. I believe the Power won it 6-1 (not entirely sure, but the gap was major). Would be nice to organise another match, considering the form Barney's in the last year(s). And his more solid state of mind during matches.

willem (willem), Friday, 9 January 2004 13:33 (twenty years ago) link

yeah, it was on ITV, and Taylor won it easy. But Barney is a different player these days. On the form he was on last night, you wouldn't have bet on anyone beating him.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 9 January 2004 13:34 (twenty years ago) link

oh, i thought barney would have been ex-communicated for consorting with the infidel...

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Friday, 9 January 2004 13:58 (twenty years ago) link

or for losing to him

chris (chris), Friday, 9 January 2004 13:59 (twenty years ago) link

Was it a match though? I thought it was an hour's worth of darts, with the winner the one with the most legs - a bit like matchplay and strokeplay in golf, in that it's a fundamentally different scoring system, which can produce different results. I don't hold by it.

Worried that barney might have peaked too soon...

Dave B (daveb), Friday, 9 January 2004 14:33 (twenty years ago) link


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