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i have four of these filled with records at home. the smaller ones:

http://knockoffs.olya.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/rollingstorage_ikea_shelves.jpg

scott seward, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 21:44 (fourteen years ago) link

no, that's not my wall of books.

scott seward, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 21:44 (fourteen years ago) link

for the bigger ikea shelves i would recommend attaching them to the wall. they can wobble. and records are heavy. i had two of the big monster ones. one is in the store now and one got wrecked during our move. i'm going to paint paintings on the boards that i salvaged from the busted one. was thinking of doing a swedish death metal series on ikea board.

scott seward, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 21:47 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah those are a little wobbly and nearly impossible to put together in a fashion that results in them being wobble-free, as far as i can tell. i bank on the weight of 1200 records to keep them in line.

jØrdån (omar little), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 21:52 (fourteen years ago) link

sang froid has to post the picture of his record room again. soooooooo pretty.

ya here me, sang!?

scott seward, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 21:55 (fourteen years ago) link

only three cubbies of records in that whole wall????

69, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 22:08 (fourteen years ago) link

maybe they have another wall of records. maybe those three shelves near the turntable are just the "gonna play next" records.

scott seward, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 22:14 (fourteen years ago) link

gonna play all at once

69, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 22:15 (fourteen years ago) link

I have a 4x4 Expedit with a 2x4 sitting on top. I intended to bolt one or both to the wall but of course never got around to it. I think I'm hoping to move before the next earthquake.
Also the records really do eliminate wobble. It *feels* solid as a rock when loaded up. And when I perform my try-to-rock-the-shelf stress test, I can't really get it to budge.
I'm living on the edge, I know.

I have a bunch of more solid, wood-toned, 1x2 square units that I've got stacked under my stereo to form a 2x4. They're really nice and more flexible than the Ikea option, but I don't think they're still manufactured. Maybe I'll post a picture after I get home.

lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 23:10 (fourteen years ago) link

i bolted mine, somewhat for the sake of the glasstop coffeetable

69, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 23:15 (fourteen years ago) link

can anyone identify any records in that big-shelf pic? i see bruce springsteen's NEBRASKA...

69, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 23:21 (fourteen years ago) link

lol I finally made it to Ikea on Monday and got an Expedit for a basement vault. These were all in boxes around the house, most from the magic dumpster of records that appeared one day this summer.

http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/uu92/damien_stone/expedit.jpg

black lightning light (herb albert), Thursday, 5 November 2009 14:47 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't actually have that many records (maybe ~250) so i got the 1x5 expedit tower. the ~700 cds though went in ikea's billy bookshelf, which was great b/c you can buy extra shelves and fit a really pretty high # of cds

mark cl, Thursday, 5 November 2009 15:10 (fourteen years ago) link

These were all in boxes around the house, most from the magic dumpster of records that appeared one day this summer.

Have you mentioned this before? if so, we need a link..... if not, the whole story.....

sonofstan, Thursday, 5 November 2009 15:32 (fourteen years ago) link

hmmm, i think we talked about it on a couple of threads. i should find where, because i'd like to find the actual date of magic dumpster day and celebrate it every year with a feast and song. and of course a dramatic re-telling of the events of that day.

scott seward, Thursday, 5 November 2009 15:43 (fourteen years ago) link

it's on the I Love Vinyl! Recent Haul/Score/Purchase Thread (2009)

7/22/09 never forget. we should meet at the site and leave records in tribute. you could clean out the crap that piles up at the store.

black lightning light (herb albert), Thursday, 5 November 2009 16:30 (fourteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...
five years pass...

I really like these but they are pretty expensive to ship. I haven't been able to find a US equivalent.

http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/pikaiti-kagu/item/5-580/

an expired coupon for 50¢ off a moon pie (los blue jeans), Sunday, 4 September 2016 06:42 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

possibly hopeless query: a few years ago a friend hooked me up with six stackable LP storage boxes from her mom's garage. one assumes they are from the 70s or maybe early 80s. they are white, some form of wood product, 13.5" by 13.5" by 13.5". each is divided into six compartments by five thin vertical dividers, which are set back a half-inch from the front. this reduces the capacity of each cube, but keeps the records nice and vertical imo. at the center of the top of each one is a little peg sticking out, and at the center of the bottom of each one is a little hole. very very easy to slide into place and stack up when moving. there are no identifying manufacturers' marks or product names; do any of y'all verterans out there recognize this ungoogleable product?? i would buy more of these if they could be found by name.

seen at the left sides of these two images:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4391/36199484254_5e683a9e6f_c.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4376/37034662125_604de38fc4_c.jpg

Righteous wax chaperone, rotating Wingdings (Doctor Casino), Monday, 15 January 2018 16:40 (six years ago) link

i really like how little wasted space they generate, aside from the width lost to the dividers - there's no real estate thrown away to chunky back or front zones i don't need, as you can see happening with the IKEA shelves below the white boxes. those inches count for a lot in a brooklyn bedroom. also i think the dividers help my screwy record psychology, creating mental "sections" and also helping me to "see" parts of the collection that my eyes might otherwise pass over. anyway my collection is at the point where i have to add shelving, punt a bunch of stuff, or stop buying records, and clearly the answer is shelving.

Righteous wax chaperone, rotating Wingdings (Doctor Casino), Monday, 15 January 2018 16:44 (six years ago) link

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brimstead, Monday, 15 January 2018 16:49 (six years ago) link

nice cat picture doc!

faust apes (NickB), Monday, 15 January 2018 16:51 (six years ago) link

those are really nice dr c.

i got a friend of mine to custom build me a media cabinet/record cabinet and matching wall cabinet out of birch ply and i have probably never been happier with a piece of furniture in my life. i think i paid £1600 all in. i'll dig out pix tonight. it's got drawers for cables, a niche that exactly fits my speaker, etc.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 15 January 2018 16:54 (six years ago) link

aw thanks! re: the spinclean: i thought i'd posted about it to a vinyl cleaning thread but actually it was in Shady scams and other silly business ideas to take advantage of earnest new vinyl collectors where i got sold on the thing.

anyway... love it, hooked, ended up obsessively cleaning every record i own with it. it's definitely a task and a pain and you have to set aside time for it but that can be good listening time, to get into the groove. often times it makes no real difference to the sound but when it does it's like windexing a grimy window, suddenly this crappy old record sounds amazing. definitely buy the one that comes with extra drying cloths cause you'll need them and buying the dinky-sized extra-cloth packs separately was a bummer.

also be aware that once you're hooked it will sort of screw up your buying/listening habits - i don't want to put anything dirty on the table so now i end up saving up little batches of new acquisitions to wash before i listen to anything! kinda silly, might just be my problem.

Righteous wax chaperone, rotating Wingdings (Doctor Casino), Monday, 15 January 2018 16:59 (six years ago) link

You can get a big pack of no lint microfiber cloths from Amazon, or an auto supply place for cheap. Folks use them for drying cars.

If you reuse, don't wash them with other clothes because they'll pick up lint from the laundry and will deposit the funk on yr records.

Cow_Art, Monday, 15 January 2018 17:40 (six years ago) link

Thanks!

Righteous wax chaperone, rotating Wingdings (Doctor Casino), Monday, 15 January 2018 17:56 (six years ago) link

I'm using IKEA Bosnäs ottomans for storage. They're ventilated, dust-free, washable, stackable, easy to carry, and you can sit on them.

Wes Brodicus, Monday, 15 January 2018 18:59 (six years ago) link

in Denmark we call those types of shelves "bogkasser" - it means book boxes, and it's a great google image search term

here's an example of a newly manufactured version of the bogkasse known as Kubik https://www.traevarer.dk/kubik-trae-hel-reolkasse-6-rum

dunno if you'll find an American retailer though...

I have about 10 of those at home, they're tops for record storage, and books too!

niels, Monday, 15 January 2018 19:20 (six years ago) link

oh yeah btw "bogkasse" is the singular term, may be an even better google search term

niels, Monday, 15 January 2018 19:21 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

not being able to solve this is maddening. just some simple, well-built and sturdy stackable cubes, 13.5" on every side. you'd think the market would be flooded with such things but everybody wants to sell you some funky designer thing that holds 25 LPs total, or some cheap bullshit that will obviously fall apart, or more IKEA stuff that's way oversized for the job at hand. am i gonna need to design this shit myself and walk to the lumberyard and figure out how to glue pieces of wood together with square joints and shit?

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 3 February 2018 18:50 (six years ago) link

these are really appealing esp. since you can get optional feet (which'd be cool for the bottom tier). but yikes at $99 per cube plus bulky shipping. i dig supporting hand craft at reasonable rates but not sure my storage problem is worth $600+ at the moment. wish you could minus the doors which i would never use.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 3 February 2018 18:55 (six years ago) link

this is the perfect record shelf imo, 700 DKK is ~120 USD:
https://www.traevarer.dk/kubik-trae-hel-reolkasse-6-rum

you can write them via this formula to ask about shipping costs:
https://www.traevarer.dk/kontakt

but maybe you can also just ask you local carpenter to build one, it's not a complex construction (or maybe go on a FB DIY page and ask for any takers to build it and what's a fair price)

niels, Saturday, 3 February 2018 19:37 (six years ago) link

hmmm, the getting-someone-to-build-some angle is appealing tbh. i'd be willing to shell out extra cash for getting 'em juuuust right without having to get all frustrated fucking around with wood and stuff and end up doing a crappy job myself.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 3 February 2018 19:58 (six years ago) link

you don't really want a cube because they're too heavy to lift. You can get stackable boxes either in a really tough cardboard or plastic from Bags Unlimited. They have two gauges of cardboard and I've tried both. The lighter cardboard can be taped up with packing tape when the boxes get old - I haven't had to throw out a box yet and I reinforced some boxes with paint stirrers on the long sides. The heavier cardboard, unfortunately, still uses the lighter cardboard lids.

I've seen the plastic boxes, too, and they're very tough.

Anyway, buy 25 at a time and they're pretty affordable. They hold about 60 records each. You can stack them 5 high, but the company recommends stacking them 3 high (I usually do 4). I write roughly what I've put in the boxes on the outside.

bamcquern, Saturday, 3 February 2018 20:06 (six years ago) link

I want a cube. I have a cube. I have 9 of these 70x70cm shelves. They are awesome. You can stack them. You can hang fill them with records and hang them on your wall. They are an all time success in Danish design. They are made from wood.

niels, Saturday, 3 February 2018 20:11 (six years ago) link

You can move the inner shelves around too, use them for cds, books, whatever, put in drawers. Great stuff.

niels, Saturday, 3 February 2018 20:19 (six years ago) link

Actually I bought 16 of them, got a great deal, less than 200 euros, used lot, but gave away/sold some cause I didn't have room for them. Anyway, I'll stop now.

niels, Saturday, 3 February 2018 20:23 (six years ago) link

i do want a cube; i like the cubes i have that i was recently posting about. they're super liftable and when i move house i don't need to transfer the records into something else to do it. but i guess potentially the heavier-duty ones with the thick birch plywood wouldn't be so good. tbh at this stage i'm not really interested in anything that needs taping up or paint stirrers. definitely no cardboard or plastic - but i'm glad that system works for you, it's good to know it's out there!

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 3 February 2018 20:25 (six years ago) link

if you win the lottery Danish brand Montana has a 6 times more expensive version of the shelves I linked to above:
https://www.danishdesignstore.com/collections/shop-by-manufacturer-montana-mobler/products/lassen-show-wall-shelving-module-montana-mobler

niels, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 21:18 (six years ago) link

i don't have a lot of records with me here but i will need to transport ~30 records to another country...is bringing them as a carry on on an airplane okay?

papa poutine (∞), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 21:24 (six years ago) link

should be, I've probably carried that many in a bag on a plane before.

sleeve, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 21:31 (six years ago) link

cool
thank you

papa poutine (∞), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 21:39 (six years ago) link

Doc, some cubes here: Olympia Record Crates. Seem a little spendy to me, but look nice.

by the light of the burning Citroën, Sunday, 18 February 2018 20:17 (six years ago) link

Aw, those do look nice! Spendy indeed, but pleasantly minimal. Hmmmmm.

My friend's husband recently plunked down for a bunch of MapleShade stuff, which seems classily-designed - like, there are modules for other formats that don't look awkward as hell with the LPs. The basic 150-LP module in finished oak is $100 ($85 if you buy four or more) but that's without bottom and top flat pieces. Man...looks good though.

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 18 February 2018 20:33 (six years ago) link

Unfinished oak at $80 each with bottoms, plus $40 for a little base at the floor. Man... now that's tempting.

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 18 February 2018 20:42 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://images.homedepot-static.com/productImages/efd857b4-f3a7-4bdd-b604-c861f0348b6d/svn/natural-way-basics-media-storage-wb-2lp-nl-44_1000.jpg

these things are made of "zboard" which seems like paper?
but i love the staging: rusty stereo, landline phone, film camera, and a boat. i think one of those books is upside down, too.

mizzell, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 14:29 (six years ago) link

by 'love' do you mean 'hate'?

multiple copies of the same lps too.

koogs, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 15:08 (six years ago) link

i want to hate it but they've captured my lifestyle perfectly!

jk i do mean hate.

mizzell, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 15:59 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

Am in the midst of a tedious deep-cleaning process following the fire in my apartment that some of you have heard about. Thankfully, my records did not get any water damage, and, being packed deep into those beautiful white cubes with the little dividers, were exposed to smoke only on the spines and tops of the outer sleeves. This is still proving to be an absolute tedious nightmare to clean up and deoderize, and many will be forever discolored but hey - I still have my music.

The upshot for this thread is that in the process of taking everything out of the white cubes for cleaning, I finally noticed a little sticker label identifying the damn things! niels was right to point me to northern Europe - they're Finnish, from the Palaset line made by Treston from around 1972. They're not, as I believed, a Masonite-like wood product, but a very dense plastic that feels like it. This website has a little background, and a brochure that suggests that my cubes are the K-05 model; flipped on their side, they could accept little drawers! Unfortunately, they're not quite the ubiquitous bargain find one might hope; here's a motley lot of sixteen cubes that went for $1,116.

Borrowing from niels, I searched "palaset bogkasser" and immediately found a pleasing period ad. What a font!

https://i.pinimg.com/474x/dd/0a/1c/dd0a1cda094c4ec6f5ab0bdbbda3ca3b--cubes.jpg

noel gallaghah's high flying burbbhrbhbbhbburbbb (Doctor Casino), Monday, 23 April 2018 23:24 (five years ago) link

five months pass...

I use these cubes.

They can be ordered with feet and indents on the top for the feet, or just plain. The idea here is you can buy them as you need them, and stack/orient them as space and needs allow. One cube, 20 cubes- no problem.

They're much nicer than the "birch effect" stuff from Ikea, and you can add optional cat-proofing doors made of plexi... I have the doors in clear, orange and blue, and they look really nice together.

There are a few downsides to know about:

Cost, not so cheap. They ship assembled so the shipping is also high. But any "better than Ikea" record storage solution is pricy. And how much did those 80 LPs inside cost you? I've gotten a few from their "Scratch and Dent" sale and they're barely scratched and/or dented, especially if they're one of the inside cubes in a block of them.

Tolerances. These are not, IMO, extremely precisely made. The feet and indentations and probably overall measurements can be +/- a tiny bit, and when you stack them these differences are apparent. So in my particular case, a stack of 3 cubes might be up to 1/8" higher than the stack next to it. And since my stereo stuff is on top of this shelving, and my turntable is wider than one cube, it sits across two cubes at some tiny angle rather than completely flat. Maybe this is stuff for nerds and you don't care. Also living in old ass apartments in big cities, the walls and floors aren't exactly precisely flat either. Bottom line, it's not as clean as one shelving unit. (Upside, it's reconfigurable and able to be bought as you go).

Doors. The doors are a great idea but sometimes they pop out and they have sharp edges. I've gotten some painful cuts from these plexi edges.

All in all I still highly recommend these. I get a lot of compliments on them!

Reeves Gabrels' Funko Pop (majorairbro), Sunday, 3 September 2023 21:32 (seven months ago) link

i don't want to be a hater. they do look nice. and it's good when people share their vinyl storage solutions.

but that just seems like an insane price to me.

budo jeru, Sunday, 3 September 2023 21:49 (seven months ago) link

i can't really think about this topic without feeling profound distress that i can't afford to have anything nice. idk. it's not like i like my ikea shelves

budo jeru, Sunday, 3 September 2023 21:50 (seven months ago) link

I love my Ikea record shelves. It's something they do right that's fairly durable.

Cow_Art, Sunday, 3 September 2023 22:20 (seven months ago) link

Holy shit, one of those cubes is $190 + shipping, and they're wonky?

Cow_Art, Sunday, 3 September 2023 22:21 (seven months ago) link

I feel like they raised the price over the last 10 years, when I got my first couple. I don't mean incredibly wonky. But when one buys say, a table, they expect the tabletop to be flat right? Maybe my expectations are too high.

Reeves Gabrels' Funko Pop (majorairbro), Sunday, 3 September 2023 22:27 (seven months ago) link

Not sure what shipping cost is for 16 cubes but even if it is not that bad it seems like this would cost at least $3500 to replace my particular set up. Plus I forget what it is called but I got a pretty nice faux wood finish color of my ikea piece! It’s not the standard birch... anyway, I’m also happy with mine!

But his face would not turn into hot Kirby (Evan), Sunday, 3 September 2023 22:30 (seven months ago) link

https://ibb.co/85c9FMx

Cow_Art, Sunday, 3 September 2023 22:51 (seven months ago) link

That's my setup. I don't know how to directly link images, apparently. I have another set that you can see intruding into the corner, but they have tchotchkes and art books on them.

Cow_Art, Sunday, 3 September 2023 22:53 (seven months ago) link

I put masonite panels on the backs of all of them to make them sturdier and so the records don't poke out the back, also to cut down on dust. The little bins up top with white cloths on them hold my 45's.

Cow_Art, Sunday, 3 September 2023 22:54 (seven months ago) link

i love that color orange on you

budo jeru, Monday, 4 September 2023 00:14 (seven months ago) link

Thanks! That used to be my favorite shirt, shorts and chair.

Cow_Art, Monday, 4 September 2023 00:25 (seven months ago) link

BrickBox makes a modular cubes similar to what majorairbro posted. Seem to be non-wonky, and cheaper (though still beyond what I'm willing to spend). I think they look great:

https://www.modmobili.com/

(they're Spanish-made, but the link is for the US distributor)

bulb after bulb, Tuesday, 5 September 2023 19:08 (seven months ago) link

I got two 3x2 units from Target. they were about $100 apiece and look pretty nice. you can then go to Home Depot and buy a piece of wood to nail into the back so there's a backstop.

frogbs, Tuesday, 5 September 2023 19:12 (seven months ago) link

Cow_Art i'm in awe of your listening room. Serious #goals.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 5 September 2023 21:26 (seven months ago) link

i'm lucky in that I used to be pretty good friends with a guy who did carpentry and interior design. he gave me cost price for a custom birch ply setup with these sorts of cubes, but as drawers, built to the height that you'd want to put turntables on top of. i've still never seen anything like it for sale.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 5 September 2023 21:30 (seven months ago) link

i say "used to" - nothing happened, but he moved to the swedish countryside a few years ago, so it's pretty hard to see him.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 5 September 2023 21:33 (seven months ago) link

Thanks! It’s our living room; my wife is cool as hell. She was a little put out when I put the stereo gear in the fireplace, but we live in Georgia. When the hell are we ever going to need a fireplace?

That’s a life-size self-portrait in bronze, btw.

Cow_Art, Tuesday, 5 September 2023 21:34 (seven months ago) link

i initially thought it was a mannequin! your response to my joke had me perplexed :)

budo jeru, Tuesday, 5 September 2023 23:01 (seven months ago) link

i bought my ikea shelves used on craiglist. they have never been super nice. after moving about four or five times, they're plenty dinged up and not at all sturdy.

i don't need anything super fancy. in fact, i've been looking to construct something similar to the shelves in bulb's link. just something simple, economical, and sturdy for all my books and records.

a friend recently spent $5k on two shelves that probably hold around 1000 records? they look awesome but

budo jeru, Tuesday, 5 September 2023 23:04 (seven months ago) link

jeez, I built my own shelf that holds more than that for maybe $200 in materials

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 00:16 (seven months ago) link

you should post new pics so we can see how they're holding up after 14 years

budo jeru, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 02:28 (seven months ago) link

those are the old ones, they look the same. the new one is prob built to the same general specs as shelf #2 above, but with real wood not particle board, it's a tank

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 03:13 (seven months ago) link

just recently got hold of 15 metres of old recycled oak boards which will soon house the rest of my lps currently residing in boxes with some room to spare (i hope!)

no lime tangier, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 05:50 (seven months ago) link


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