Another fucking spree shooting. Great.

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For the most part, no one has guns on a military base outside of MPs and people using them on-duty. Soldiers can register private weapons on base, but they have to be locked up and transported to and from hunting/range without deviation.

smashing aspirant (milo z), Thursday, 5 November 2009 21:53 (fourteen years ago) link

surely it doesn't matter where it was- if people have access to guns, eventually someone is going to use them to shoot a bunch of people.

Samuel (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 5 November 2009 21:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Update 3:36 Fort Hood officials say they cannot confirm whether the shooters were military or civilians.

^^ yeah maybe i spoke too soon.

goole, Thursday, 5 November 2009 21:56 (fourteen years ago) link

surely it doesn't matter where it was- if people have access to guns, eventually someone is going to use them to shoot a bunch of people.

... Really? Isn't that like saying "if people have access to knives, eventually someone is going to use them to stab a bunch of people"?

I mean, I am not an advocate of widespread gun access but I am also not an advocate of making up bullshit premises so you can scare people into doing what you want them to do.

The Dance at the Crossroads (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 November 2009 21:56 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah i've got fam at ft hood right now

waiting on word

Nanobots: HOOSTEEND (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 5 November 2009 21:58 (fourteen years ago) link

(I would likely support the argument that guns have been desensitized into playthings and we, as a society, have become too irresponsible to be trusted with them as a reason for gun control)

The Dance at the Crossroads (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 November 2009 22:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Dan: Yes but at least knives have other uses? Guns can't prepare food, they just kill.

Samuel (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 5 November 2009 22:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Um... what?

smashing aspirant (milo z), Thursday, 5 November 2009 22:01 (fourteen years ago) link

i dunno. i'm all tv-ed out.

Samuel (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 5 November 2009 22:02 (fourteen years ago) link

are you saying that the military shouldnt have guns

spergliacci (cankles), Thursday, 5 November 2009 22:02 (fourteen years ago) link

U.S. Rep. McCaul, maybe unaware soldiers are suspects, calls shooting "coordinated attack against our military" and "an act of terror."

Action Orientation (Eazy), Thursday, 5 November 2009 22:02 (fourteen years ago) link

shhhh prez is on..

Great Scott! It's Molecular Man. (Ste), Thursday, 5 November 2009 22:03 (fourteen years ago) link

There you go, Cankles:
General says dead include a civilian police officer from the Ft. Hood police force.

Action Orientation (Eazy), Thursday, 5 November 2009 22:04 (fourteen years ago) link

brb, gonna go shoot up some fried turkey

The Dance at the Crossroads (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 November 2009 22:05 (fourteen years ago) link

I hear it's hell on the veins

鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 5 November 2009 22:07 (fourteen years ago) link

(Hoos, I hope yr family is okay)

The Dance at the Crossroads (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 November 2009 22:07 (fourteen years ago) link

ditto

鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 5 November 2009 22:11 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/11/05/texas.fort.hood.shootings/index.html

In June, Fort Hood's commander, Lt. Gen. Rick Lynch, told CNN that he was trying to ease the kind of stresses soldiers face. He has pushed for soldiers working a day schedule to return home for dinner by 6 p.m., and required his personal authorization for anyone working weekends. At the time, two soldiers stationed there had committed suicide in 2009 -- a rate well below those of other posts.

tbh this is much better than my job, minus today's shootings and the suicide stats

The Dance at the Crossroads (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 November 2009 22:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Hmmm...

Update 4:08 ABC News reports shooter's identity is Malique Hassan.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 5 November 2009 22:22 (fourteen years ago) link

oh, that's just great...

jØrdån (omar little), Thursday, 5 November 2009 22:23 (fourteen years ago) link

Apparently all three gunmen were soldiers.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 5 November 2009 22:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Have they released the names of the two surviving suspects?

The Dance at the Crossroads (HI DERE), Thursday, 5 November 2009 22:25 (fourteen years ago) link

please let their names be buck utah and deke america : /

jØrdån (omar little), Thursday, 5 November 2009 22:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Nothing as yet

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 5 November 2009 22:27 (fourteen years ago) link

i guess that makes my point completely moot. doh! still bad tho

Nhex, Thursday, 5 November 2009 22:31 (fourteen years ago) link

There was a foiled terrist plot here last year that involved somali muslim idiots planning to shoot up an army base :/ I hope the US media don't leap on that as some kind of link :/

i obtain much semillon (Trayce), Thursday, 5 November 2009 22:33 (fourteen years ago) link

He was a Major. 39-40 years old.

♪♫(●̲̲̅̅̅̅=̲̲̅̅̅̅●̲̅̅)♪♫ (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 5 November 2009 22:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Naleek Nahal Assan

♪♫(●̲̲̅̅̅̅=̲̲̅̅̅̅●̲̅̅)♪♫ (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 5 November 2009 22:34 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,572350,00.html

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 5 November 2009 22:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Major Malik Nadal Hasan

♪♫(●̲̲̅̅̅̅=̲̲̅̅̅̅●̲̅̅)♪♫ (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 5 November 2009 22:39 (fourteen years ago) link

I admit I wasn't expecting this to be a middle aged officer.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 5 November 2009 22:40 (fourteen years ago) link

I was just reading the Rolling Stone article about the murders at Fort Carson earlier today and I couldn't help but wonder at first if this was another case of a returning vet snapping after a complete lack of support.

& other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 November 2009 22:41 (fourteen years ago) link

OK, the local right wing host is shouting to the skies, demanding to know why the FBI won't call this an act of "jihadist terrorism." "Why are they being so politically correct?" he's saying. Gee, maybe because the FBI doesn't have all the information yet?

I yanked that sucker hard, and work it did. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 November 2009 22:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Wouldn't want to be a Muslim in the armed forces right now.

Super Cub, Thursday, 5 November 2009 22:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Seems like while there are two other soldiers held as suspects at present only Hasan was the shooter.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 5 November 2009 22:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Actually, wouldn't want to be anyone in the armed forces right now.

xpost

Super Cub, Thursday, 5 November 2009 22:47 (fourteen years ago) link

please let their names be buck utah and deke america : /

― jØrdån (omar little), Thursday, November 5, 2009 10:26 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark

^^^^^

Nanobots: HOOSTEEND (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 5 November 2009 22:48 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost Maybe he went postal because everyone assumed he was Muslim?

iiiijjjj, Thursday, 5 November 2009 22:49 (fourteen years ago) link

recent convert to Islam
originally from Virginia

♪♫(●̲̲̅̅̅̅=̲̲̅̅̅̅●̲̅̅)♪♫ (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 5 November 2009 22:53 (fourteen years ago) link

“US Army Major Malik Nadal Hasan” sounds as ridiculous as “President Barack Hussein Ubama”.
God help America.

45 posted on Thu Nov 5 14:49:55 2009 by Lancey Howard
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♪♫(●̲̲̅̅̅̅=̲̲̅̅̅̅●̲̅̅)♪♫ (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 5 November 2009 22:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Fuck this country.

& other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 November 2009 22:56 (fourteen years ago) link

let the xenophobia commence!

Buck Utah (rockapads), Thursday, 5 November 2009 22:58 (fourteen years ago) link

amurrica

nice email (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 5 November 2009 23:04 (fourteen years ago) link

lol malik hasan was a doctor

spergliacci (cankles), Thursday, 5 November 2009 23:19 (fourteen years ago) link

A psychiatrist even. Okay every further new detail about this case makes my head spin.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 5 November 2009 23:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Holy hell.

Nanobots: HOOSTEEND (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 5 November 2009 23:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Good luck USA :/

i obtain much semillon (Trayce), Thursday, 5 November 2009 23:37 (fourteen years ago) link

wow

Super Cub, Thursday, 5 November 2009 23:38 (fourteen years ago) link

weird detail: "At the time, two soldiers stationed there had committed suicide in 2009 -- a rate well below those of other posts."

Nhex, Thursday, 5 November 2009 23:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Interesting how this will be spun as terrorism, but the beltway snipers were just... uh... serial killers who talked about jihad.

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 5 November 2009 23:41 (fourteen years ago) link


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