letz talk abt gucci mane

iced up something serious

i think al is right - he doesn't have the outsized personality of a wayne or a ludacris, and he doesn't have the 'look' of a hip-hop star a la ross or jeezy or 50 - in this sense he's probably closest to like... t.i. who seems to be pretty soft spoken & frail - the one thing tho is that t.i. is def a sex symbol, and i don't think gucci has that going for him

'And my belly get so big I can hardly see my toes'

idk whether it's just what i've been paying more attention to but i've definitely been hearing a ton more hip-hop lyrics about being on e of late, "when i pop a pill i take off like a thundercat" &c. but actually thinking about it this isn't that new, it's been pretty common all decade - miss e being so addictive, plus of course it was totally central to hyphy.

agree with al on the video point, gucci just doesn't look remotely badass ever...he has this permanent pot-bellied slouch going on, NAGL.

xps

gucci always seems like one of the boys rather than a leader, like t.i. does

wtf u guys are crazy, he's a total character/personality in his appearance ... hes not a sex symbol but his whole swag, the different chains, the oversized glasses, its not 'nagl' is that hes still like this potbellied kush smoking backwoods southern street dude

hes the total opposite of a blank slate

hes got way more 'character' going for him than jeezy's whole coneheads crack dealer motif

coneheads crack dealer

rofl at this

that's the thing, he's definitely a character but it comes across way more in his records than in his photos/videos imo

but deej i think it's not so much about what you describe - obv his chains are pretty iconic- but just watch any of this videos - "photo shoot," "wasted," "she got a friend" etc - he doesn't seem natural in front of the camera like a lot of guys do - he's not a ham like wayne, he's not a PRESENCE like the bigger guys - it's either something he will get better at or he just won't be able to do

his character isn't the sort that looks acceptably cool in hip-hop videos

and his interviews - he's not as good as expressing himself in conversation as well as say jeezy is - he doesn't give batshit interviews like wayne does - i agree w you that he has a defined persona/style, i just think it's less obv to the casual rap fan who buys records by big artists (and by proxy makes big artists big)

i dunno i think his character on film fits his 'character' in song pretty well. its like the authenticity of snoop not looking in the camera lens, glancing @ the ground in the g thang videos from '92. hes not a music video star, hes a hood rapper who happens to have blown up

i just mean when i see him in a video for a posse cut like "Boi," I think about how if this was the first time seeing the guy and wasn't listening hard to tell that he's rapping better than the other people on the track, there's no way I'd figure out from that he's the star on the rise in the video

man, i dunno. hes totally the least anonymous -- i mean mike jones doesnt even look like the mike jones from when mike jones was relatively famous. you dont think the whole chubby 6'3 gangster in bug-eyed glasses isnt a larger than life character?

when he raps in the 'posted at the store' video its like, there's no question who the star of that track is

you may not have noticed this but 80% of all rappers in 2009 have bug-eyed glasses.

dunno what 2 tell you -- i think hes got a distinct visual persona -- maybe not as archetypal as rick ross, but certainly as much/more so than jeezy

was there ever a time or a subgroup of rap in which or for whom doing coke was a cool thing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9kViDMem1Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzLhgvbhm9Y

and many many more

also come on. you think these dudes dont do coke youre kidding yourself. all of em. they' have TONS of cash on them and spend their lives in clubs in various cities.

http://shakashawshow.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/edlover.jpg

dont think anyone denied tons of rappers are doin coke

but yeah 3-6 rapped about it a lot

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhk5e5956t5a3VWc9A

the song hes taped recording here is crazy!!

maniac's verse is zzz tho

here's a lil story bout a nigga named gucci
grew up in the hood sellin dope and shootin uzi's
had a lil brother by the name of waka flocka
one thing about his lil brother? big chopper
east atlanta hardhead, everythang red
red diamond, red rag, red offsets
cali down to bouldercrest all way back to cali
hope to sell some chickens and i sold em in sun valley
man brick squad get it! they sheisty as a motherfucker
green birds, black birds more icier than you other suckers
kid that did the pounds of mid sold ki's for six i do admit
ecstasy for ex-convict, they try me? better split yo wig

he is weed free!

that studio looks super depressing

Here's a video of Gucci shoving and punching a woman in the face

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c22EYjWWClk

1:50

wow he really is the opposite of Charles Hamilton

I was gonna go in the Chris Brown thread and repost everything deej said about Chris Brown, but then I got really sad and stopped.

that video was posted in this thread like a year ago

and there is a difference between shoving & taking a swing at a woman (still unacceptable obv) and beating a woman's face to the point where she is unrecognizable

No there isn't!

In the eyes of the law there is a diff. between assault and domestic abuse, at least.

But you're right, Whiney, that guy should be in jail! If only there were some way to make that happen.

no guys its true, now that whiney has struck to the heart of this absurd hypocrisy. from now on, gucci mane's character as a troubled gangster will forever be undermined

But you're right, Whiney, that guy should be in jail! If only there were some way to make that happen.

― some dude, Tuesday, November 17, 2009 3:11 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

This is a quality post because it kind of agrees with me and zings me too.

the young money album tracklist was just posted and looks like 'we be steady mobbin' or some later version of it's gonna be on there. weird.

mtv.com has confirmed that tracklist that jacques_lamure posted - only four songs without guests & two of them have already leaked

def much more interested in the production list

to refresh - i guess 5 songs w/o a guest assuming that the intro is a one verse type deal and not him talking

01. “Classical” (Intro)
02. “Interlude: Toilet Bowl Shawty/ Mike Epps”
03. “Heavy”
04. “Stupid Wild,” featuring Lil Wayne, Cam’ron
05. “All About the Money,” featuring Rick Ross
06. “Lemonade”
07. “Bingo,” featuring Soulja Boy Tell’em, Waka Flocka Flame
08. “Spotlight,” featuring Usher
09. “I Think I’m in Love,” featuring Jason Caesar
10. “Bad Bad Bad,” featuring Keyshia Cole
11. “Interlude: Toilet Bowl Shawty/ Mike Epps”
12. “Sex in Crazy Places,” featuring Bobby V, Nicki Minaj, Trina
13. “The Movie”
14. “Volume,” featuring Wooh Da Kid
15. “Gingerbread Man,” featuring OJ Da Juiceman
16. “Wasted,” featuring Plies
17. “Kush Is My Cologne,” featuring Bun B, Devin the Dude, E-40
18. “Worst Enemy”
19. “Interlude: Toilet Bowl Shawty/ Mike Epps”
20. “Wasted” (Remix), featuring Lil Wayne, Jadakiss, Birdman

this shit is out there. you'll have it today or tonight. have fun!

it's also disappointing i hear

not everything is a triple c's album

i have never listened to the triple c's album. the artwork was so ridiculous that i didnt bother.

sorry for taking pre-emptive speculative shots at an album you havent heard yet

or you!

yes that's true.

fennrock Just so you know, the Gucci-Wayne-Cam song, "Stupid Wild," is crazy and weird and produced by Bangladesh.

could be great or awful, such is the wildly volatile nature of bangladesh, wayne & cam

& fennrock

hahah true