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Quark came to demo us an early beta of 7. It looked really good, with some actual useful features ... but resisting the temptation to just punch the rep in the nose was mighty hard work.

― stet (stet), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 16:34 (seventeen years ago) link

After a good 2 years of watching real agencies inch towards inDesign, I'm actually now getting the sense that they're ready to jump back on the Quark ship with 7. It's been to hard for most places to switch over to inDesign.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link

When I said Go Live up their I meant In design

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Alot of places I've worked lately have already made the jump to InDesign and I don't think that any of them are going to be rushing to switch back.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link

We're still on Quark 3.3 here. the looming prospect is Quark 6 on PC, which is so shit that I'll be relieved if we can get 7, which does genuinely have improvements -- especially in text display. Moving some of these ppl to the InDesign UI would be pretty hairy too.

Quark's great strength lies in being very like an old-school pasteboard. InDesign's lies in being like all the other Adobe apps (and, y'know, working and shit), but it makes translating the Quark metaphor really hard.

― stet (stet), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 17:11 (seventeen years ago) link

i think adobe's software is getting to bloated for them to keep developing it

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:09 (seventeen years ago) link

too bloated

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:10 (seventeen years ago) link

decent mac itunes alternative anyone?

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I know a lot of places have made the switch, but a lot of the largest places haven't, and they keep Quark in business. The transition will happen slowly...a lot of the reason the switch hasn't taken place is due to a lack of good people who know inDesign. But as more younger types enter the field with inDesign knowledge, they'll be better able to adjust.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:42 (seventeen years ago) link

hmm?

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link

decent mac itunes alternative anyone?

-- The Real DG

― bad hair day house (fandango), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 21:33 (seventeen years ago) link

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 21:34 (seventeen years ago) link

it take it you saw this, DG? http://cogosx.sourceforge.net/

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 00:26 (seventeen years ago) link

why can't i export c*nting mpeg-1 with c*nting imovie, CUNTSTICKS!!!!!!

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 00:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Cog looks nice, alas I won't own a mac again for a while :/

though I think I'm just going to have to eventually, or find a solid thinkpad to force linux onto. somebody put the worst virus I've ever seen IRL on my machine the other day good lord.

― bad hair day house (fandango), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 01:00 (seventeen years ago) link

because cunting mpeg1 is dino poo

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 04:42 (seventeen years ago) link

what possible reason is there for using mpeg-1?

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 04:45 (seventeen years ago) link

New better iMacs

http://www.apple.com/imac

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 12:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Ed - all versions of Windows Media Player and all version of Quicktime will play MPEG-1 without having to download any additional codecs or software.

If you've got another format you can say this about... bring it on!!!

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 12:45 (seventeen years ago) link

("all versions" = all versions anyone could reasonably be expected to use in 2006... basically back to Windows 98; i wanted to use mpeg-4 with h.264 but WMP, even on XP, doesn't play that by default)

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 12:47 (seventeen years ago) link

What is this for anyways? Anyone still using Windows 98 probably has enough spyware/crap on their machine to render reliable video playback impossible. Plus they won't buy anything, the cheap bastards!

― Machibuse '80 (ex machina), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 13:05 (seventeen years ago) link

A CD to be sent to a whole slew of random marketing/advertising/"brand" people, half of whom would need to wait for 2 hours for helpdesk to come install quicktime on their corporate workstations - tryina get around their ignorance, you see. And coming full up against the ignorance built right into Apple's programs!

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 13:35 (seventeen years ago) link

backwards compatibility is the real ignorance Mr. Hand! People who don't buy new computers every 2.5 years deserve to be left out in the cold!

― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 13:38 (seventeen years ago) link

It's just weird. I mean, iMovie will do... what, CINEPAK compression with AVI.. fucking uLaw audio compression or whatever. CRO-MAGNON SHIT. But no plain jane, standard mpeg. Toast will do it, but you need to burn your disc in VCD format and I don't want to do that. Somebody called HEURIS also does an mpeg-1 encoder, which you can buy online for $4000.

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 13:44 (seventeen years ago) link

(FCP will also do it, but I don't have that.)

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 13:45 (seventeen years ago) link

avi wrappered cinepak or mpeg-4 basic are supported by WM9 (back as bar as Win98 SE) and Quicktime (back to 6.0 AFAIK, cinepak probably much further). However to be fair it took a long time to work that one out and I work in the video world. I fucking hate video codecs.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 13:47 (seventeen years ago) link

cog spazzed out when i tried it before

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 13:48 (seventeen years ago) link

cog spazzed out when i tried it before

― The Real DG (D to thee G), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 13:49 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost etc.

problem is is that apple would have to pay a royalty on every copy of iMovie with Mpeg-1 encoding support and that isn't worth it (see also SanDisks trouble with one of the mpeg licensing authorities). Mpeg-1 has awful licensing for encoding, MPEG-2 is even worse, MPEG-4 is much saner.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 13:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah Ed, I did a Cinepak AVI as an export from iMovie; default settings except I raised the "quality" slider to "high" ... 28 minutes was 500 megs and it looked like absolute garbage.

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 14:01 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost Ed that has the ring of truth.

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 14:01 (seventeen years ago) link

welcome to the early 90s. I will come armed with a pack of DVD's later and, if I still have it, a special and useful surprise on one of them.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 14:02 (seventeen years ago) link

apple is offering the written-by-a-guy-from-24-and-distributed-to-right-wing-blogs "documentary" "based on" the 9/11 commission report, on itunes, and they're offering it for free

here is a big list of email addresses and real addresses and phone numbers at apple for you to complain to, if you wish - http://americablog.blogspot.com/2006/09/action-alert-tell-steve-jobs-and-apple.html

which, it strikes me, could come in handy for some of the other issues that have been brought up on this thread.

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Saturday, 9 September 2006 00:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Tracer, can you make your thing and then convert it to mpeg-1 with ffmpeg?

― Paul Eater (eater), Saturday, 9 September 2006 01:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah I finally did do exactly that! Unfortunately I couldn't figure out anything less tedious than 1) making a DVD with iMovie 2) copying the files to my harddrive 3) converting that with ffmpegx. It totally worked, though. (File size was enormous, but that's what you get with mpeg-1) - Yay!

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Saturday, 9 September 2006 11:36 (seventeen years ago) link

"My Macbook has been struck by the affliction that's affecting quite a number of the machines; it keeps switching itself off, eventually getting into a cycle of turning itself off every time you hit the power button. A PMU reset fixes it, or at least allows you to boot it up, but the problem comes back a few hours later. What fun. It's in with AppleCare at the moment, but many have got their machine back 'fixed' only to have it begin again a few days afterwards."

Something similar started happening to my G4 Powerbook (1.67GHz, 1 GB RAM, 100GB HD) last week. I checked in some of the Mac online forums, and the problem seems to be fairly widespread, especially with machines purchased in 2005. Apparently, the cause is a faulty temperature sensor in the trackpad which sends misleading information to the machine's power management unit. I checked my system log using Console, and noticed that the message: "Power Management recevied emergency overtemp signal. Going to sleep" appeared several times. Luckily my computer is still under warantee (for another 4 days),and I bought Apple Care. I'm taking it into the Apple store tonight, and I hope that they can sort it out quickly, without me having to go back several times. I've heard mixed reviews about Apple's customer support.

― J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 02:40 (seventeen years ago) link

A friend of mine had her iPod stolen and has just bought a new one as replacement. But it seems to require the new iTunes 7, which in turn requires 10.3.9. She's still running Jaguar (or possibly even 10.1). Is there really no way of making newer iPods work without buying/stealing an OS upgrade?

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 16:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Arrgh - I've just looked at the new iPod specs and it seems to be suggesting she needs USB 2.0 as well, which she definitely doesn't have. Will it at least work (slowly) with USB 1.0 if she sorts the OS issue out?

OK, now I do hate Apple.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 16:37 (seventeen years ago) link

usb2.0 ipods have no problem at usb1.0 speeds. It is a bit slow though. I was in this situation earlier this year.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Why did the bastards drop Firewire support?

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 17:09 (seventeen years ago) link

saved them a chip

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 17:10 (seventeen years ago) link

J-rock, that happened to me and I was still under AppleCare so it was no problem. Get a freeware temperature monitor thingie and it will give you a readout of all the temp sensors - including the faulty trackpad sensor. Print that out, bring it in and tell them what's up. They will appreciate it and you will get your machine back tout suite.

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...

What's a good way of unzipping lots of archives at once, or rather in a row? I have hundreds of zip files, and I'd like it to unarchive each one and then delete the archive. Surely there's a way of doing this, possibly with an extra program? Currently I just double click on them one by one, which takes forever, plus I have to delete the archives afterwards.

― toby (tsg20), Friday, 17 November 2006 10:19 (seventeen years ago) link

select all of them, right click or ctrl+click choose open then do a search on .zip and drag the results to the trash.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 17 November 2006 10:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Terminal!

if you're using bash as your shell:

for f in *.zip; do unzip "$f"; rm "$f"; done

(NB do not blame me if this goes horribly wrong and fucks your machine up, cos I haven't tested it)

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 17 November 2006 10:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Ah, I've just discovered that Stuffit works quite well. Don't know why it doesn't show on google.

Ed, that reminds me why I don't do that - there seems to be a weird Finder bug on my machine, whereby if I right slick on more than one file that's selected, Finder immediately crashes 75% of the time. Very annoying!

― toby (tsg20), Friday, 17 November 2006 10:57 (seventeen years ago) link

WARNING: I'm in ur board posting on ur thread.
I love apple because when my computer gets fucked up, some guy already wrote a program for free that I can just double-click and fix it.

― Bobby Ganush (Uri Frendimein), Friday, 17 November 2006 11:18 (seventeen years ago) link

God, Stuffit's RAR support sucks! How hard is it to write code that is actually capable of opening valid archives?

― toby (tsg20), Friday, 17 November 2006 15:32 (seventeen years ago) link

God, Stuffit's RAR support sucks! How hard is it to write code that is actually capable of opening valid archives?

Note also that, when it crashes while opening an archive, it often leaves behind large invisible temp folders.

― M. V. (M.V.), Friday, 17 November 2006 16:27 (seventeen years ago) link

yep. also, when set to delete after unzipping, it seems to still delete even if it crashes. very dud. good for zip files though.

― toby (tsg20), Friday, 17 November 2006 17:41 (seventeen years ago) link

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