Favourite Miyazaki film

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I saw Spirited Away in the theater, and it was my first Miyazaki, so it's hard not to love it - especially since it felt like one of the first truly immersive animated films I'd seen yet. I didn't want it to end, and it felt like I had spent days inside it.

Then I went to Mononoke and was promptly disappointed. How in the world was that the one which broke him into the US market?

But the 80's material is pretty solid. Nausicaa dragged a bit, and while I liked Totoro and Kiki, they're both a bit extra twee compared to the rest. I suppose my other faves would be Lupin, Laputa, and Porco.

Girolamo Savonarola, Sunday, 31 August 2008 23:19 (fifteen years ago) link

I remember Nausicaa being good, but I have no real desire to ever see it again after becoming so immersed in the manga, which is one of my favorite comic books of all time. The movie, by comparison, feels like a cheap adaptation of that comic (although obviously the history is more complicated than that!).

Still stand by my vote for Kiki. Still need to see Howl's.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 1 September 2008 01:38 (fifteen years ago) link

I just saw Ponyo! It's pretty cutesy, even compared to Spirited Away and Totoro, but it's good. There's this uber-catchy song that goes with it, though, that they've been playing non-stop over here and I hope for everyone's sanity back home they don't translate it into English.

adamj, Monday, 1 September 2008 02:14 (fifteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

Ponyo to be released in America in August.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 6 April 2009 14:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Ponyo Ponyo Ponyo sakana no ko etc

v.v. catchy aargh

Matt #2, Monday, 6 April 2009 14:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Thunder and lightening

v v frightening

Ned Raggett, Monday, 6 April 2009 14:56 (fifteen years ago) link

> That Tales of Earthsea movie was better than I expected.

on uk tv sometime soon (saw it in tivo listings but there's no easy way of searching upcoming stuff unless you know which channel it's on (film4 i think))

http://www.animeuknews.net/news/1796/tales-from-earthsea-to-get-film4-showing
"The film will be shown twice - the first time on Sunday the 12th of April at 2:45pm, and a repeat show on Thursday the 16th of April at 6:45pm."

koogs, Monday, 6 April 2009 17:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Loved: Spirited Away
Liked: Howl's Moving Castle, Kiki's Delivery Service
Indifferent: Princess Mononoke
Disliked: My Neighbor Totoro

Nurse Detrius (Eric H.), Monday, 6 April 2009 17:16 (fifteen years ago) link

of these that i've seen, which is only 2 or 3, i always come away thinking that they look great and but they're kinda boring.

Blackout Crew are the Beatles of donk (jim), Monday, 6 April 2009 17:18 (fifteen years ago) link

I saw Laputa in the cinema a week ago (hadn't seen it before), and it was great! I'd almost be willing to say it's the second best Miyazaki film after Totoro. I loved the way it never quite revealed all of the mysteries implied in the backstory (trying to avoid spoilers here) but gave just enough hints to make some guesses. I guess I've always been fond of stories where people explore the mysteries of long ago vanished cultures. Also, I thought it was nice how there clearly was a strong ecological theme (common with many other Miyazaki films) yet it was never spelled out. And there where some incredibly beautiful designs, especially the robot. Oh boy what a cool robot!

One thing I found kinda weird thougb, why does every Miyazaki film (besides Princess Mononoke) have a similar-looking teen girl as a protagonist? I'm familiar with the Japanese fetishism for school girls, but the way the sky pirates leered after Sheeta was still a bit disturbing here. At least it was done more tastefully in Porco Rosso.

Tuomas, Monday, 6 April 2009 17:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, they showed a trailer for Ponyo before Laputa, I can confirm that the Poyno song is indeed silly and ridiculously catchy!

Tuomas, Monday, 6 April 2009 17:38 (fifteen years ago) link

i totally agree with these poll results. Spirited Away is the only one that was truely magical. Totoro is sweet. Mononoke ok. Howl's Moving Castle a tragic mess.

Ludo, Monday, 6 April 2009 19:37 (fifteen years ago) link

shut up. YOUR FACE will be a tragic mess after its done getting punched. by me.

howl's moving castle 4EVA

Vormärz Heart, Our Youth is Broken (Lamp), Monday, 6 April 2009 19:44 (fifteen years ago) link

I agree with Ludo, Howl's Moving Castle had some nice scenes, but it was very incoherent. Definitely the worst Miyazaki I've seen.

Tuomas, Monday, 6 April 2009 19:45 (fifteen years ago) link

g2h

Vormärz Heart, Our Youth is Broken (Lamp), Monday, 6 April 2009 19:57 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't think I voted in this, but it's a shame - I'm betting Nausicaa and Laputa didn't get votes just due to not being as widely seen, but there's definitely top 3 with Spirited Away for me (followed closely by Totoro).

Nhex, Monday, 6 April 2009 21:03 (fifteen years ago) link

three months pass...

Miyazaki's doing a brief American tour to tie in with the release of Ponyo.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 July 2009 12:46 (fourteen years ago) link

I've come to find that I like Howl's as much if not a little bit more than Spirited... incoherent mess my arse.

ch4rlie fr4m3, Thursday, 9 July 2009 12:53 (fourteen years ago) link

It is too hard to pick only one.

Detroit Metal City (Nicole), Thursday, 9 July 2009 13:00 (fourteen years ago) link

ch4rlie fr4m3 otm - Howl's is a wonderful film.

Bill A, Thursday, 9 July 2009 13:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah Howl's gets better every time I see it.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 July 2009 13:32 (fourteen years ago) link

The only problem with Howl is that it just misses out on being as wonderful as the original book.

Greig (treefell), Thursday, 9 July 2009 13:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Will rep for Mononoke til the end!

Suedey 2, Thursday, 9 July 2009 13:45 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

LA Times interview with Miyazaki. Hoping like hell *somewhere* in the LA basin Ponyo will be screened with subtitles...

Ned Raggett, Monday, 10 August 2009 00:18 (fourteen years ago) link

wow he turned into The Architect from the second Matrix movie

it is an interesting interview, thanks for the link

Nhex, Monday, 10 August 2009 00:27 (fourteen years ago) link

there was an advanced screening of ponyo here on friday w subtitles not dub!...i watched it about a month ago, i love it, his most innocent and childlike film since totoro. my son saw previews on cartoon network and said he has no intention of watching it, i saw the same preview yesterday and can't say i blame him, the dub sounds terrible and they chose the most disney ass bullshit scenes to show in the trailer.

don't try to church it up (nickalicious), Monday, 10 August 2009 00:38 (fourteen years ago) link

miyazaki may be the only director who hasn't made one film i didn't love

don't try to church it up (nickalicious), Monday, 10 August 2009 00:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Am I the only one who's intensely annoyed by the music of Spirited Away?

Turangalila, Monday, 10 August 2009 00:43 (fourteen years ago) link

i saw Ponyo with subs the other week. its definitely aimed at a younger audience like Totoro, some odd but beautiful imagery at times. and no flying sequences that i can remember! worth seeing if you can handle the twee.

zappi, Monday, 10 August 2009 00:49 (fourteen years ago) link

there was an advanced screening of ponyo here on friday w subtitles not dub!.

Man, lucky.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 10 August 2009 01:34 (fourteen years ago) link

I am still really excited to see this.

ENBB, Monday, 10 August 2009 01:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Did Miyazaki say something like this is his last film? I forget.. I remember him not caring much for his son's work.

CaptainLorax, Monday, 10 August 2009 02:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Tuarangalila, you may have been my neighbor on Last.fm but I can't share your annoyance. Rather the opposite.

B'wana Beast, Monday, 10 August 2009 07:59 (fourteen years ago) link

I want to go and see this, but if there's going to be fucking subtitles scrawled all over the animation I'm outta there.

DavidM, Monday, 10 August 2009 14:54 (fourteen years ago) link

It's either that or hearing young Cyruses and Jonases speak.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 10 August 2009 15:05 (fourteen years ago) link

B'wana Beast,

Hee! :) What's your screen name?

Turangalila, Monday, 10 August 2009 17:58 (fourteen years ago) link

I'd rank "Ponyo" below everything I've seen from Miyazaki, beautiful pastel backgrounds or no. I understand the "think like a child" concept, but that's no excuse for lazy plotting and so many loose ends. It felt like there was 20 minutes missing, yet at the same time the movie felt too long (it barely held the attention of my 4 1/2 year old, who loves "Totoro" and "Kiki's"). And "Ponyo" ends as abruptly and lamely as a generic freeze-frame high-five.

Perhaps if I were better versed in Japanese mythology I'd have liked the movie better. Certainly it starts out fine, or at least fine enough. But by the 2/3rds mark the pronounced lack of plot/drama started to really irk me. Big disappointment from a director I love.

For what it's worth, I saw the "dubbed" version, but John Lasseter from Pixar typically oversees all the "dubbing" of Miyazaki's films, and the voice work was OK. And besides, as Ebert wrote in his overly enthusiastic if well-intentioned review of "Ponyo:"

“Is it only dubbed?” I was asked. You dummy! All animated films are dubbed! Little Nemo can’t really speak!

Anyway, I'd rather have more misses from this guy than hits from the usual assembly line players. But I'd still prefer hits from him all the same.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 17 August 2009 23:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Does anyone know if there is a subtitled release in theaters in NY? I couldn't find a listing for a subbed version on moviefone...

Nhex, Monday, 17 August 2009 23:17 (fourteen years ago) link

"pronounced lack of plot" is usually a good point, with miyazaki, though

thomp, Monday, 17 August 2009 23:18 (fourteen years ago) link

just ONE vote for cagliostro? wow ilx u siccen me yet again

a narwhal done gored my sister nell (cankles), Monday, 17 August 2009 23:52 (fourteen years ago) link

lil nublets

a narwhal done gored my sister nell (cankles), Monday, 17 August 2009 23:52 (fourteen years ago) link

I would say Nausicaa by a pretty heaven margin now, also,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OkT5HyumQ4

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Monday, 17 August 2009 23:55 (fourteen years ago) link

nausicaa suffers from comparison with the manga, which was some next level shit, but it has moments in it unlike anything else in miyazaki's career - it's more like a trad post-apocalyptic anime in that sense i guess

i think laputa is the weakest

porco rosso is great, especially the french dub featuring jean reno

future boy conan deserves some luv here too imo

a narwhal done gored my sister nell (cankles), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 00:03 (fourteen years ago) link

read a think with miyazaki recently where he says he hates porco rosso, he kinda dislikes a lot of his films and didn't enjoy making any of them and is a lot crankier than I expected

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 00:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Was supposed to see Nausicaa in the theater recently but it didn't happen. ;_;

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 00:07 (fourteen years ago) link

i've only seen spirited away, howl's moving castle, and totoro. <3 totoro so much

i guess i should watch nausicaa next?

ovum if you got 'em (gbx), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 00:08 (fourteen years ago) link

animators are generally miserable people

a narwhal done gored my sister nell (cankles), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 00:09 (fourteen years ago) link

no fuck that you should watch castle of cogliostro next!!!!! nausicaa is really pretty weak

a narwhal done gored my sister nell (cankles), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 00:09 (fourteen years ago) link

turns out cogliostro is the only one available to watch instantly on netflix so i guess that's the one for me ^_____^

ovum if you got 'em (gbx), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 00:13 (fourteen years ago) link

kismet

ps - I know what I'm doing tonight now!

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 00:14 (fourteen years ago) link


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