try glasgow more

The line up was, as far I know and could make out through the smoke, your usual Stephen O'Malley and Greg Anderson naturally, Attila (from Mayhem & others) stage front on vocals and Steve Moore on keyboards and a wee bit of trombone and other gubbins.

looking forward to seeing yr pics

They're great if you like grainy shots of darkly billowing smoke.

http://krakow.zenfolio.com/img/v4/p119279192-3.jpg

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Fucking hell, Krakow, those are awesome. Substantially better than the ones the bloke next to me was trying to take all night :)

I ended up standing on a box at the left for both sets, about halfway back, which proved an excellent vantage point for watching trombones etc emerge from the gloom -- although most of the time I couldn't actually tell how many people were on stage. I did get the awesome effect of being able to lean against the walls to "feel" the sound, too, though.

Loved the heavy power electronics segment in particular, and kinda wish there'd been a bit more of that and maybe just a little less gothique vocalising

Yes, absolutely. The whole point of this stuff, for me, is to be able to lose yourself in it: partly because of the sheer number of people, but also partly because of the vocals, that wasn't always possible. Still, when it worked, it worked awesomely.

Bong, though, were an unexpected treat. Loved every second of that from start to finish.

Thanks.

I personally loved Attila's vocals. He was doing some great things with his voice. Gregorian chants, unearthly growls, pterodactyl screeches...

wtf is up w/the council? it's been freezing for 2 wks straight and I haven't seen one gritter. did they spend all the salt money on the velodrome?

it's the same here

in carluke?

no

tho i suspect it will be the same there

Had to push our car up Belmont St, solid ice. M8 was gritted, sidestreets total icescapes

I have to cycle to work in an hour. That's going to be fun. Wish me luck.

Haha, I had a taxi going halfway up the hill from Belmont Street to Wilton St before rolling back down it to the bottom of the hill to have a clear run up it in first gear. He made it, other attendees at the party I was off to ended up having to walk up :-(

It's been snowing loads!

Was snowing in Hamilton the other day - apparently if it snows it never lies. It's lying.

Same in Muirkirk (wilds of Ayrshire) - lots of snow etc. Happily, if it keeps going, I won't get to work in Hamilton tomorrow.

the streets of dennistoun are full of snow and ice this morning - and random trails of grit, like skidmarks

a taxi going halfway up the hill from Belmont Street to Wilton St before rolling back down it to the bottom of the hill

Yup: that's the one Stet and I were having COMEDY ICE FUN with. Poor Lucy's car: the smell of burning rubber was astonishing.

Huge, huge respect to the little dude who appeared from the end of Wilton Street, stopped, got out and started helping us push, without a word. We thanked him profusely afterwards. "Well, someone else just did it for us!" he said with a beam. Paying it forward: awesome. Who was that Christmas-jumpered man? Perhaps we shall never know.

Meanwhile, my big day of essay reading is fucked up by a) me not getting out of bed earlier; b) realising that if we don't go shopping today (forecast: some sun, light snow, clear skies later) then Fee will be trying to do it herself tomorrow (snow all day) or Tuesday (heavy snow all day). Knackers. Tesco here we come.

I think a Tesco trip is in order for us too. Or, realistically, me. I am going to write to the Metro and see if they'll publish a thank-you letter to the anonymous car pusher.

'Course they will!

There was some car pushing action going on as my taxi failed then succeeded at that bit. What time was all this? (I'm pretty sure it wasn't Madchen's car, but you never know)

Hmm: not sure, actually. Must have been some time after 1am?

Ah, no, this was around 8pm. It wasn't just you then. Actually I think a ton of the people at the party I was at ended up walking from the bottom of the hill due to epic taxi fail.

By the way, Alisa: happy birthday for the other day! Sorry, I completely forgot about this. Hope it rocked bells.

yes, happy belated birthday ailsa! x

Thanks you guys! Are we doing drinking over Christmas at all?

Another we burst just there as I cycled home from work too - in shorts & all!

Are they bothering to grit or look after the road here at all? I was (foolishly) out in Coatbridge this evening and it was a total joke. The main roads were sheets of ice, even with heavy traffic. Terrifying.

I saw a huge lorry end up stuck half-way up a hill in a slow moving two-lane traffic queue because he didn't have enough traction to continue.

THIS IS WHAT I WAS SAYING

they spent the salt money on the commonwealth games

Was snowing in Hamilton the other day - apparently if it snows it never lies. It's lying.

Same in Muirkirk (wilds of Ayrshire) - lots of snow etc. Happily, if it keeps going, I won't get to work in Hamilton tomorrow.

It's true, it rarely lies here. Last year was the first proper snowfall in 18 years since we moved here. But that was nothing on this years.

Hah Muirkirk, in P7 my school St Ninian's (Prestwick) sent my class to some sort of outward bound centre. Kaimes or Kames or something like that. Plenty of snow there.

they spent the salt money on the commonwealth games

I had two taxi drivers tell me this today. Pavements are lethal here.

I live round the corner from the local gritter depot, and the difference in road/ice interface from their turnoff to my driveway compared to the bit from their turnoff to the rest of the world is staggering. I skidded round two corners before getting to the bit of the road the gritters go up and down, and then it was all OK. My driveway and especially back patio are very much akin to an icerink though.

My icy wee fall has cost me a possibly fractured elbow and most likely several weeks off work (selling CDs one-(wrong)-handed isn't much good). I'm pretty angry at the council or whoever was responsible for not gritting that road or whatever was approriate. I didn't realise until I fell that it wasn't just wet, but one huge sheet of ice. It was a main road, totally full of traffic and didn't seem to have been treated at all, which is madness and dangerous.

do the council have a legal responsibility to grit I wonder

That was what I wondered as I walked home. I was militantly and frustratedly musing on whether one would have any recourse for accidents like this because of the council failing to look after the roads sufficiently.

"A highway authority are under a duty to ensure, so far as is reasonably practicable, that safe passage along a highway is not endangered by snow or ice."

any thing good happening on the south side for hogmanay?

I've heard that you can claim compensation for tripping over un-maintained paving stones and the like, so maybe this would be similar?

What should I do if I were to pursue this idea? I'm certainly going to be bored enough for the next few weeks.

In seriousness, because things are so diificult in the record shop, I'm almost certainly going to suffer financially because of being off work for an extended period.

IANApersonalinjuryL, best first step is to talk informally w/someone at a firm like irwin mitchell?

^ Yeh, I think that's best. Approach the council yourself without any legal backup and you'll get nowhere. I don't think you'll be the only one, either ...

"It’s absolutely terrible. It has taken us 10 minutes to walk less than 200 yards. The dog has already taken a tumble."

:D

aye this has been fucking murder walking to work. Almost fell on my cunt too many times to count.

Sorry to hear about the arm, Alex.

I have just bought a pair of these. They'll arrive too late, but I really should have been arsed to buy them after skidding to work in last year's freeze.
http://www.yaktrax.co.uk/

yup srsly considering those for running

Ow, krakow, the partner of a girl at my work also fell over and fractured his elbow.

Those yaktrax things look ace.

ouch, krakow

the roads round central station are lethal, this morning

worried that my train down south tomorrow won't be running :-(

My sister & I are going to drive down to Liverpool on Xmas Eve, leaving about 11am. Where are you heading?

(She'd probably have a hissy fit at me offering lifts to internet peeps, but screw it, I'm serious if it did happen to fit.)

thank you v. much for yr very kind offer, k - my train journey goes glasgow>birmingham, birmingham>banbury, am due to catch the first train out of central station at 5.50am! my email add = my internet name (no spaces) at gmail.com, if you have a mobe i can ring on you on, should i need to head down south by other means (i could prob get picked up in Liverpool by my sister, if needs be)