letz talk abt gucci mane

hey i'm not a rock critic! i'm something even worse!

"The State vs. Radric Davis" likely won't be nominated for a Grammy, but it would be tough to find a truer, more communal swatch of pop music released this year.

Chris Richards (from Q and Not U and now the Washington Post music critic) weighs in--http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/07/AR2009120703987.html

But unlike Wayne, Gucci consistently puts quantity over quality

right

hey i really dig the first q and not u record!

But unlike Wayne, Gucci consistently puts quantity over quality

right

― david cam'ron (tpp), Tuesday, December 8, 2009 2:57 PM (2 minutes ago)

yeah idk what he even means by that, a paragraph up he's calling him "reliable"

good review tho

yall are famous

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/archives/2009/12/free_gucci_fuck.php#more

surfboards 1
diplo 1

AHAHAHAAH!!! dude screen shot my gmail onto the VV!!

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/archives/2009/12/free_gucci_fuck.php

dammit
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/assets_c/2009/12/email-thumb-575x346.jpg

lol'd at "survey says...that's a lie" so much the first time i opened that e-mail

same - quality lols.
i hope he's upset at the reaction, but i bet he doesn't give a shit.

But unlike Wayne, Gucci consistently puts quantity over quality

right

― david cam'ron (tpp), Tuesday, December 8, 2009 2:57 PM (2 minutes ago)

yeah idk what he even means by that, a paragraph up he's calling him "reliable"

― k3vin k., Tuesday, December 8, 2009 3:03 PM (6 hours ago)

maybe it's a typo because backwards it exactly fits

imo wayne's best stuff is mixtapes and guccis best stuff is albums, but i think i'm alone in that

gucci's mixtapes are different from albums how, aside from "stfu dj holiday"

lol yeah state vs radric is basically burrprint 3 pt 2

you mean the movie 2 burrprint 3 pt 2

or something, i think my math is off

lol wut

Diplo has also described the forthcoming M.I.A. album, which he's working on, as "Gucci Mane meets Animal Collective."

u_u

posted up like a pavillion

Posted up like a Pavillion... Feels like a million
Strawberry Jam interior and white up on the ceilin'
My Prospect Hummer's fly and the haters can't stand it
Gucci Spirit's Gone, now Gucci Spirit's Vanished

Here Comes the Indian riding down your block
Blasting Campfire Songs when I can't find my glock
The Manatees all Danse when I spit these fire verses
My wrist so icy like my hand got Water Curses

ok there whiney https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uip2O8-66AY

astute!

Dave and I might have gotten bored and done that already...

Gucci Collective

That said, Diplo is a tool. Point final.

i hear that the diplo remix of gucci heavily samples mariah's "can't let go". makes half of me want to hear it more and the other half want to NEVER hear it - as of now it lurks unclicked in itunes, right next to that solange dirty projectors cover: mp3s to avoid.

i guess i kinda understand why ya'll are upset about the diplo mix, that he's taking already great gucci cuts and turning them into hipster-lite predigested blog fodder (right?). but part of me is thinking what's the big fucking deal? i suspect i'll like a fair share of the remixes myself, or i atleast haven't banished the possibility from my mind.

i'm really warming to the r&b songs on the album. i still can't get through the first minute of 'sunlight' without reaching for the skip button, but "bad bad bad" and "i think im in love" are great, and even "sex in crazy places" is fun in a silly way.

i dont really understand hating diplo considering hes done a bunch of things i really like (mia, santogold, f&l in hunts vegas, ummmmmmm im sure there is something else)

i forgot about that PRGz mixtape actually, it's really good.

i guess i kinda understand why ya'll are upset about the diplo mix, that he's taking already great gucci cuts and turning them into hipster-lite predigested blog fodder (right?). but part of me is thinking what's the big fucking deal? i suspect i'll like a fair share of the remixes myself, or i atleast haven't banished the possibility from my mind.

― brooklyn we go ham (samosa gibreel), Wednesday, December 9, 2009 4:14 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

the last line of defense for that guy is always "hey he's remixing/piggybacking on/rebranding music that was great to begin with, so his version of it should be pretty enjoyable too, right?" which isn't necessarily wrong but doesn't actually make anything he does the least bit worthwhile or deserving of positive attention.

plus this gucci mix srt8 sucks?

I mean, Diplo's success or failure for me has to do more with the abilities of his collaborators rather than his own stuff. Working with Maya or Santi he's done stuff I like. Other times, not so much.

The predigested blog fodder thing is frustrating because it lets people avoid dealing with Gucci on his own terms (I mean...hell, I'll be the first to admit that I don't totally "get" Gucci yet all the time, but damned if I'm gonna take a shortcut). Plus, Diplo getting his fingers on stuff usually leads to it no longer having its own ID - just the brand of Diplo's own name. Clearly it won't be as awful as the (admittedly v. enjoyable to listen to) Favela on Blast situation, where Brasilian DJs and MCs were literally not credited and track names were not given - just a big mix of unwashed heathen music, presented free of context to you by your friendly interloper from Philly.

It's not as egregious as say...the Hood Internet, which do the FILTHY IGNANT HIP HOP + INDIE BACKING TRACKS LOLZ thing, mind you, and implicitly send a far more repugnant message about the value of rap.

I mean, it's not necessarily that the remixes will be bad, it's that they're superfluous.

Um. Some of what I just wrote is probably totally off-base, but articulating kneejerk hatred in a rational way is difficult sometimes.

the 'mash up' of gucci with my boo for the h.a.t.e. u remix was 20x the song this one is

that's a good point about it giving an opportunity for people to avoid listening to gucci on his own terms. i'm just wondering to what degree your collectives attitudes are hinged on you guys actually disliking diplo's work, or simply the idea of him remixing gucci. clearly you've enjoyed some of what he's done.

and part of me dreads these mixes coming out, when the salem remix dropped, gorillavsbear posted "he should hire them to make all his beats," whic is like-arghh, he's already got great beats! but maybe that's just the grumpy old man in me.

how have i clearly enjoyed some of what he's done?

I think he was referring to me.

Clearly it won't be as awful as the (admittedly v. enjoyable to listen to) Favela on Blast situation

ha juicy j's flow on "ike turner pimpin" reminds me exactly of gucci on "real as it gets"

Anonymous said...
LOL @ sampling Mariah's "Can't Let Go." I love that song!

^^i think this comment sums up diplo's audience pretty perfectly

just for the record. lots of people have their own problems with dilpo but that shirt is 100% just for the LULZ

lulz have indeed been had...and they continue to roll in

he deleted this tweet
http://i49.tinypic.com/205dy0p.png

plus another one shitting on music JOURNALISTS something to the effect of they can't be musicians so they have to "stay relevant"
i'm really pissed I didn't grab that before he deleted it

http://twitter.com/diplo/status/6523762799

that's true though

yes. the lulz are true. BELIEVE

let them have that useless debate wherever they want. but not in "letz talk abt gucci mane"

for real. since Piracy Funds Terrorism the guy has looped one Clas song and chopped up a pretty obvious beatles joint into a bmore (cough) re-edit. THAT'S IT. He's almost nearing hack status. Major Lazer fucking sucks ballz and he's clowning himself

*Clash