letz talk abt gucci mane

i'm really warming to the r&b songs on the album. i still can't get through the first minute of 'sunlight' without reaching for the skip button, but "bad bad bad" and "i think im in love" are great, and even "sex in crazy places" is fun in a silly way.

i dont really understand hating diplo considering hes done a bunch of things i really like (mia, santogold, f&l in hunts vegas, ummmmmmm im sure there is something else)

i forgot about that PRGz mixtape actually, it's really good.

i guess i kinda understand why ya'll are upset about the diplo mix, that he's taking already great gucci cuts and turning them into hipster-lite predigested blog fodder (right?). but part of me is thinking what's the big fucking deal? i suspect i'll like a fair share of the remixes myself, or i atleast haven't banished the possibility from my mind.

― brooklyn we go ham (samosa gibreel), Wednesday, December 9, 2009 4:14 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

the last line of defense for that guy is always "hey he's remixing/piggybacking on/rebranding music that was great to begin with, so his version of it should be pretty enjoyable too, right?" which isn't necessarily wrong but doesn't actually make anything he does the least bit worthwhile or deserving of positive attention.

plus this gucci mix srt8 sucks?

I mean, Diplo's success or failure for me has to do more with the abilities of his collaborators rather than his own stuff. Working with Maya or Santi he's done stuff I like. Other times, not so much.

The predigested blog fodder thing is frustrating because it lets people avoid dealing with Gucci on his own terms (I mean...hell, I'll be the first to admit that I don't totally "get" Gucci yet all the time, but damned if I'm gonna take a shortcut). Plus, Diplo getting his fingers on stuff usually leads to it no longer having its own ID - just the brand of Diplo's own name. Clearly it won't be as awful as the (admittedly v. enjoyable to listen to) Favela on Blast situation, where Brasilian DJs and MCs were literally not credited and track names were not given - just a big mix of unwashed heathen music, presented free of context to you by your friendly interloper from Philly.

It's not as egregious as say...the Hood Internet, which do the FILTHY IGNANT HIP HOP + INDIE BACKING TRACKS LOLZ thing, mind you, and implicitly send a far more repugnant message about the value of rap.

I mean, it's not necessarily that the remixes will be bad, it's that they're superfluous.

Um. Some of what I just wrote is probably totally off-base, but articulating kneejerk hatred in a rational way is difficult sometimes.

the 'mash up' of gucci with my boo for the h.a.t.e. u remix was 20x the song this one is

that's a good point about it giving an opportunity for people to avoid listening to gucci on his own terms. i'm just wondering to what degree your collectives attitudes are hinged on you guys actually disliking diplo's work, or simply the idea of him remixing gucci. clearly you've enjoyed some of what he's done.

and part of me dreads these mixes coming out, when the salem remix dropped, gorillavsbear posted "he should hire them to make all his beats," whic is like-arghh, he's already got great beats! but maybe that's just the grumpy old man in me.

how have i clearly enjoyed some of what he's done?

I think he was referring to me.

Clearly it won't be as awful as the (admittedly v. enjoyable to listen to) Favela on Blast situation

ha juicy j's flow on "ike turner pimpin" reminds me exactly of gucci on "real as it gets"

Anonymous said...
LOL @ sampling Mariah's "Can't Let Go." I love that song!

^^i think this comment sums up diplo's audience pretty perfectly

just for the record. lots of people have their own problems with dilpo but that shirt is 100% just for the LULZ

lulz have indeed been had...and they continue to roll in

he deleted this tweet
http://i49.tinypic.com/205dy0p.png

plus another one shitting on music JOURNALISTS something to the effect of they can't be musicians so they have to "stay relevant"
i'm really pissed I didn't grab that before he deleted it

http://twitter.com/diplo/status/6523762799

that's true though

yes. the lulz are true. BELIEVE

let them have that useless debate wherever they want. but not in "letz talk abt gucci mane"

for real. since Piracy Funds Terrorism the guy has looped one Clas song and chopped up a pretty obvious beatles joint into a bmore (cough) re-edit. THAT'S IT. He's almost nearing hack status. Major Lazer fucking sucks ballz and he's clowning himself

*Clash

tbh this has nothing on dude calling Al ugly

surfboards youve done a 180 on dude in a short time.

i heard that major lazer joint w/ the surf guitar in a good dj set the other nite & enjoyed it ... hollercurious?

xp fuck. that sounds kinda funny

i was and still am (to a much lesser degree) a hollersympathizer. i really dont give a fuck about the musical, sociological or moral implications of any of this.

except i now really don't like this dude

http://twitter.com/diplo/status/6522971977

someones talking shit bout our boy

http://twitter.com/sexidance/status/6525179282

these dudes are both walking PR nightmares
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=38386802&postID=8380083909850581364

im embarrassed for all involved including myself for watching this car crash

eagerly anticipating carles stepping in

this'll likely get on pitchfork news.

i kind of love "i just make beats , peace"

i kind of love "i dont know what adroit means." wasnt dude a teacher? lol faux naif

Caramanica in the Sunday NY Times talking to and about Gucci's music producers-Zaytoven, Fatboi, Shawty Redd, Drumma Boi; plus to Gucci from jail. Also Gucci advisor and A & R man Coach K (Wow, he coaches Duke's basketball team and helps Gucci).

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/13/arts/music/13gucci.html

good article for the most part -- his descriptions of the sounds of atlanta's beats is otm but didnt really resonate w/ me, or something -- like it feels like the piece perfectly summarizing zaytoven's style in particular has yet to be written

http://twitter.com/diplo/status/6522971977

someones talking shit bout our boy

― unicorn strapped with a unabomb (deej), Thursday, December 10, 2009 2:47 AM

lol

gucci now hypemachine's most blogged artist

havent listened to the diplo remix yet but that flying lotus thing is completely unlistenable

so think abt

gucci now hypemachine's most blogged artist

― killah priest, Monday, December 14, 2009 10:27 PM (56 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

while yr off writing narratives about gucci's hipster fanbase

― unicorn strapped with a unabomb (deej), Monday, December 14, 2009 12:03 PM (11 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

cross ref w mentions of 'diplo'

also there are rap blogs

Dude is on Gorilla Vs Bear right now, do you need to see a parade down Bedford Avenue?

Discobelle just said "Free Gucci!" i ain't bullshittin

"Nothing on this track really pops lyrically, but it's a good example of how people like Gucci and Wayne just manage to fill a track with personality. It makes you wonder if Gucci could make a track work just by repeating his name for 4 minutes."

--Prefix Magazine

Fucking chillwave band SALEM remixes Gucci

http://thetapeisnotsticky.com/2009/10/a-few-new-rap-tunes/

gucci puts the brrr in chillwave

"Nothing on this track really pops lyrically, but it's a good example of how people like Gucci and Wayne just manage to fill a track with personality. It makes you wonder if Gucci could make a track work just by repeating his name for 4 minutes."

--Prefix Magazine

― the unbearable lightness of sbing (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, December 14, 2009 11:41 PM (11 minutes ago)

did u make this up or

or

http://www.prefixmag.com/media/gucci-mane/stupid-wild-ft-lil-wayne-and-camron-mp3/35201/

i hate tham cam'ron verse