Law and Order: Search and Destroy

Also: Pathologist: The red-head. Profaci: Profaci. Psychologist: Hmmm...Liz Olivet was/is still a cutie (especially when she lets down her hair), but ultimately I must say Emil "That's just rehearsed crap" Skoda can do no wrong.

Best Episode: Prince of Darkness (2nd season): lots of mayhem, Colombian cartels, and a dark, O. Henry twist ending.

(haha in a later issue they had to correct an error in the chomsky profile viz: 'oops where we quoted [x] as saying "chomsky seemed to have tremendous rage", [x] actually said "range"')

I love this show so much and only I know the true lyrics to the theme song, because I wrote them but it is a big secret

I watch this show every time it's on however I'm starting to not see any more reruns that I haven't already seen. :(

I love D'Onfrio. Rosemary knows this. I'd like to do some illegal things to him. . .

Just kidding. I don't hate him that much, just find him mildly annoying.

i knew svu sucked a big dick when i noticed they were filming things from outside the perspective of the "law" or "order" peeps...formalism rules u r all gay

First comes the law part,
then comes the order part

I mean you can't be changing the show to make it deviate from its theme-song's statement of purpose

*this may in fact be true

see, it's a very complex show.

gff you would be rohm's bitch if she ever asked and you know it.

I like SVU 'cause my house made a guest appearance on it.

i saw the guy who did the seinfeld theme on entertainment tonight once and he was just one guy in a little home studio and he was creepy cuz he reminded me of that creepy mouthsounds guy with the white hair who was big in the 70's on That's Incredible and who now is on a kid's show on PBS. He's even creepier now cuz he's really old and he is still making icky noises with his mouth. That seinfeld guy musta been the mouthsounds guy's biggest fan.
the law & order theme rocks cuz it's got funky bass and clarinet action.

it's probably good for me to only have access to cable one week every 6 months

seriously, two days.

i have totally made my summer roommate hooked on law and order -- he is unearthing tivoable episodes that i haven't even seen on my to do list. tivo + law and order triumverate = HOURS AND HOURS SUCKED AWAY. although i do agree about the butcher jobs tnt has done. hey weren't they also supposed to do that advertising-after-the-fact paint-on stuff, like putting diet coke cans in briscoe's hands when they were really parthocups?

today they showed the episode where jerry orbach was the counsel for the defense btw!! & this is still pretty u &k

but i still watch plenty law and order and the one based on Mailer was so tops.

... no seinfeld though, no night court either. actually it looks like the guy who wrote the theme to night court wrote the theme to, awww yeah, barney miller, aka one of the top ten tv themes of ever (right behind 'good times' and 'taxi' -- one of my favorite nyc moments so far has been driving over the 59th st bridge in a taxi while the theme from taxi was playing on the radio and the sun was just beginning to come up. NEW YORK I LOVE YOU)

also he wrote music for cop rock!!!!!

is the beginning of season 8 the first episode that starts with a live victim?

― j., Thursday, March 7, 2013 5:30 AM (five years ago)

no

they basically do it for the first few seasons, which also usually start with beat cops jibber jabbering until there's an incident or a cry for help (sometimes, they do it like this, but with no live victim), and the last few, which use more of a mix of ordinary-sitch conversation or scenes previewing the issues around the crime but in such a way as to show the live victim

i've been going through season 10 and just hit "mega" which is an outrageously good l&o episode/episode of television

michael mckean AND annette o'toole

mega is in my top 10

does california have more stringent requirements to pass probable cause standards before proceeding to trial? they keep doing separate courtroom scenes for that on LOLA, like it's standard.

― j., Thursday, March 2, 2017 1:10 AM (two years ago)

thanks to the mueller report i now have an answer to my question!!! i think

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_(formal_criminal_charge)

Because the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution expressly creates a constitutional right to be indicted by a grand jury, the information is used in federal criminal procedure only when a defendant voluntarily pleads guilty (often as part of a plea bargain) and waives the right to an indictment.[11]

However, the Fifth Amendment right to a grand jury indictment does not apply against the state governments because the grand jury provision has not been incorporated against the states by the Fourteenth Amendment. Thus, the information has always been the dominant charging document in the western states, where extremely dispersed population distribution during the American frontier era made it difficult to select and convene petit juries to hold trials. In that era, convening even larger grand juries just to indict criminals was seen as an unnecessary extravagance.

In western states, district attorneys are authorized by statute to charge criminal suspects by filing informations. The defendant is then entitled to challenge the information at a preliminary hearing, during which the prosecution must establish to the judge's satisfaction that probable cause exists to bind over the defendant until trial. The U.S. Supreme Court affirmed the constitutionality of this procedure in Hurtado v. California (1886).

The grand jury is still available in the states where informations are used, but it is usually used only for issuing indictments for certain types of crimes or for certain types of anti-corruption investigations.

Is L&O:LA streaming anywhere? It came about during a rare L&O hiatus in my life

improbably enough, you can actually see it on nbc.com

panicked teacher: "these are good kids!"
briscoe: "so were leopold and loeb"

ok but were they lennie, WERE they?

been watching the original on my streaming tv subscription because I think it's *still* not streaming anywhere else in the US

once it gets into the groove, the original series has some amazing seasons in the early seasons. Briscoe and Logan might be the prime years?

they never ever seem to repeat S1-5 in the UK*, i've only seen noth in the spin-offs (does he play the same character? i never watch the spin-offs, they're all bad not good)

no moriarty or dzundza or robinette either :(

*i think those series showed on BBC originally, maybe they still have the rights to them

lol i mean brooks, robinette is the character name

those are all in the first four years so there's no 'either' about it

logan is the same logan; after the tv movie which is about him trying to solve his way back to manhattan he kicks around a while longer offscreen before solving his way into major cases due to some connection an investigation has to his girlfriend or something

either
/ˈʌɪðə,ˈiːðə/

CONJUNCTION & ADVERB
1: Used before the first of two (or occasionally more) given alternatives (the other being introduced by ‘or’)
‘either I accompany you to your room or I wait here’
‘available in either black or white’

2: adverb, with negative, used to indicate a similarity or link with a statement just made
‘You don't like him, do you? I don't either’
‘it won't do any harm, but won't really help either’

Noth reappears in Criminal Intent much later, but it’s a psychological investigation show with a different tone. I think they bounced around what day/time it was at on broadcast tv then shoved it on to cable. Vincent D’Onofrio (!) and Kathryn Erbe mostly star, although they both get cycled out for reasons. Other leads include Jeff Goldblum and Alicia Witt, which is wild considering they seemed to give the series a lot less consideration compared to other shows

mark did you have your name legally changed so the s stands for 'salty'

during noth's run they also started insanely alternating leads and iirc didn't really try that much to make noth's episodes tonally consistent with d'onofrio's schtick

We bingerewatched CI a while ago and its weird, despite evidence in this very thread that I used to watch it regularly, I did not recall a single episode on rewatch. My brains! :(

(we're now doing OG from season 1, which Id never seen before now. Seems so dated and stiff compared to later stuff)

watched some CI last night and I'd forgotten how all of the criminals come off as vaguely reptilian

Many years ago I had a theory about how each L&O had an overriding political philosophy:

L&O - Marxist (poor people are often forced into desperate acts of criminality, but the rich are the true villains)
L&O: SVU - Schopenhauer (life is pain)
L&O: CI - Nietzsche (some people are smarter than/superior to others, it is up to the superman detective to be smarter than/superior to his criminal adversaries)

Ha. I like it!

"i won't have this trial turned into a circus!"

"enough of your treacly mea culpas"

watching season 13 and I've got to say I miss my stabler

This is as good a time as any to tell you that my dog sings along to the Law & Order theme song every time he hears it pic.twitter.com/4HNVPWrzmE

— Peter Schultz (@pete_schultz) March 19, 2020

lol

https://deadline.com/2020/03/christopher-meloni-returns-new-dick-wolf-series-elliot-stabler-nbc-law-order-svu-1202896323/

Whaaaat

Stoked

"in the process of determining a verdict, lives often hang in the balance"

comments about how people underestimate how unhinged Stabler was seem to forget the Dick Wolf Chicago shows, where it's revealed that some Good Cops are going to get in trouble because they like to torture people for information and confessions, but their methods got some results

can't speak to the fire and hospital shows attached to that spinoff other than the crossovers because it's obvious they concentrated all the casting and writing on the cop show

Wooo Gary Busey

via voodoo chili, this made me think of maura
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOxAlfvpQmI

i can’t watch this show anymore :( oh well

I’m watching it right now

one of the few episodes where Van Buren leaves the office because a case involves someone she knows and she’s just relentless

yeah all the stuff this summer just curdled it for me

I'm going to sound like I've been living under a rock but what was it specifically that ruined this for you? I feel like we've been living in such a hellscape the past six months anyway

It first aired 30 years ago today.

blam blam

More the law than the order I would imagine

Forgive the thread spam, but I wanted to note that L+O: Organized Crime's 2021 season is nominated in the ILX TV poll, with voting ending this weekend:

ILX's Best Television of 2021 Poll / VOTING AND CAMPAIGNING THREAD / Voting Ends After January 31, 2022

If you like this show and you'd like to see it have a good showing in the poll (running in February) all you need to do is submit a ballot including it and your other favorites (3 minimum, 25 maximum, ranked by your favorite to least favorite) to forksclovetofu at gmail. It'll take five minutes; get to it!

John Oliver vs Dick Wolf:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNy6F7ZwX8I