taking sides, the abstract beatz edition: MOWAX vs. NINJA TUNE

Just goes to show you how much I know, I had no idea DJ Shadow had anything to do with this thread. I love Endtroducing to death, it's easily one of my very favorite records. The UNKLE record's pretty decent too.

i propose a special weekend subthread - 'THAT UNKLE RECORD: SEARCH AND DESTROY'. let me begin by stating that the kool g rap song is fucking amazing. work from there.

also let me state this question will likely be ignored.

Sold it so long ago I can't remember. I do recall the Kool G being OK, not great. I liked one of the instrumentals, it may have been "The Unkle Theme," the one with the circular guitar sample. Nothing earth shattering, but it had a good feel to it.

Destroy that terrible Thom Yorke thing, also the Verve track. Those were fucking awful.

dude, the verve song is good. not as great as that big verve single that i can't remember the name of, but good. i've heard it performed live as an instrumental and shadow drops in all these boston/chicago/ 70s-rock-band guitar chords and it's awesome.

the thom yorke one isn't awful either, at least as good as 90% of the radiohead i've heard and a little more to the point. the 'jacob's ladder' sample works too. oh god, i'm talking about unkle.

Okay, Ethan, what are you going to destroy?

It would bother me a whole lot more, Ethan, if the sample you're referring to was from a Rush song.

my songs to destroy are the obvious ones: the mike d song, the unkle theme (i love the sample that's like 'we had too much equipment, too many men, and little by little we went insane'. went insane = MADE A SPOTTY RECORD), that long-titled one that's the game about breaking balls, and, lord help me, fucking 'chaos'. all those are terrible. the rest of the record is near perfect.

in formal defense of the kool g. rap song, i'd like say that after hearing marley marl toss off some of his worst work on the man, i'm just happy to hear him finally get a good beat to go on. not to lose any cred, but i'm all up on the premier mix of his new single for the same reason, the man deserves to rhyme over better than than a slowed-down biz markie b-side. fuck you, marley marl, but damn, 'it's a demo' was fly.

and hey, and it might be rush. you know that one that's like 'LIVING ON THE LIGHTED STAGE, THE ROACHES, NEON (something...wheels?) BLAH BLAH BLAH GILDED CAGE!!!!'? it wasn't from that. but it doesn't sound like that.

URGENT UPDATE: kool g. still hot, rest of album still shaky.

i actually want to see people break down and assess the pre-gorillaz (all music being divided into epochal pre- and post-gorillaz factions) blunted beatzzz combo that is UNKLE. i mean, it's all like the soundtrack to a 2003 dawson's creek episode, ain't it? YOU BE THE JUDGE.