The Irish

Haha, needed something to fill the void caused by the Phil Brown Twitter's demise

lol the media guy for that anti eu group libertas keeps retweeting it!

wanna go back tbh

where in ireland did you live?

love the 'rocky road to dublin'. there's a live recording i have where youre like 'where is he pausing for breath?', hes just belting it out.

― Michael B,

otm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtEKUWRpUWg&feature=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBGSc1iLcIw

racist

written by Michael O'Donoghue

fairly archaic stuff really, a bomb in a pub, in "ireland"

not going to watch that clip obv but i dont like the phrase 'the irish', it always seems to precede blarney sentiment or borderline racist 'bantuh'

similarly nothing interesting is ever going to be said about germany or its people by someone starting 'the germans...'

Raymond:
Do you know, when you first came in here I knew you were a
services man. You can never, never disguise it.
Withnail:
What were you in?
Raymond:
Tanks. Afrika Korps. A little before your time. Don't suppose
you've engaged.
Withnail:
Ireland.
Raymond:
Ooooh, a crack at the Mick.

bemoaning the inability of the irish to rule themselves is the new irish imo- i'm pro guilty of it myself- but it's probably no more true of us than it is of anyone else, they just hadn't dev to get over

eh not sure it's new, my dad was growing up hearing that. relative to a lot of places, we haven't been ruling ourselves that long.

i dunno what "ruling yourselves" is in that context tho? by the same standards most of the population of the UK haven't been "ruling themselves" for very long, if we cd even claim that distinction now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExEjzWvICd4&feature=player_embedded

didn't like mumford and sons before, but this is fucking disgusting.

What the fuck?

yeah i know, why would you promote your own tour in a given country with a video that is basically outright racist mockery of that country?

Possibly a different manifestation of the problem behind the racist Florence & The Machine video. Upper-class British pop stars who have never had to address issues of race / nationality to any great extent at school or with friends and come across as completely blind to them now. idk.

middle class Home Counties cunt unaware that mocking non mcHCcunts is a bad move surprise surprise

it's cool i'm sure they sincerely love the Pogues and Guinness

i might have sent this to the daily mail

oops

wtf

I don't know what you're all talking about, I thought it was HILARIOUS. I especially loved the mocking of our language and the fact it was blatantly inspired by 19th century Punch cartoons.

They've always been a shower of bedwetting Tory pricks.

xp I can only hope they use the headline Scumford & Sons.

Weird how the default laugh-at-the-Irish accent has shifted from "begorrah bejaysus" countryfolk to Bertie Ahern.

Daily Mail currently has a photo of numerous dead children on its front page, only the Mumfords could be worse.

xp bit more Geldof, no? But it was clearly aimed to be countryfolk I think.

not seen this, doubt i'll be offended tho, becos y'know we made fr ted ourselves

father ted was funny. and we LOVE mocking ourselves but that's partly because others are so bad at it, see above.

it makes Father Ted look like Synge tbh

Big difference between Ted which was made with affection by Irish people vs home counties upper class twits acting out a Punch cartoon.

c'mon, Father Ted was clearly better than Synge

rather be satirised by synge than idealised mawkishly by o'casey, but that's another debate tbf

will check it out tonight, it better be good now

Synge is great i'm just saying he was a bit more subtle in his satire than FT

When we mock ourselves it's like mocking your family - you are best placed to do it cos you know the subject, but outsiders generally shouldn't if they're just going to resort to stereotypes. Seriously, jokes about us haven't moved on since the 19th century, same old shit.

srsly doubt the intention was "mockery", he probably thinks it's an affectionate acknowledgment of how much he loves yr culture

being mocked with good natured if clumsy/misapplied affection is worse than being nailed expertly by yr own cynics, but i mean personally the line can be blurry. Again, personally, where it's coming from needn't be such a major factor all the time- general chatter here btw

i think you need to see this darragh really, it's ludicrously out of touch.

withholding judgement until i found out whether they open their set with "Lillibullero"

i mean if the clip is half as ugly, stupid, grotesque and embarrassing for one minute as pat shortt's entire, million-making career has been then i'll frankly be impressed

it is uglier because they're english... not sure how you don't see this.

xp yeah fair enough ronan i'll obv need to watch it i'm just blowing shite around it- the usual tbh!

i know the 'it's because they're english' line and recognise the general gist, i don't think it's either absolute and above question

Pat Shortt is a culchie mocking culchies & culchieisms for culchies, and is not to the taste of everyone. Not sure how it's even comparable.

x-post there's a difference between a person from a race poking fun at known stereotypes amongst his compatriots and a person who isn't a member of the race mocking nothing but obvious signifiers of the race.

i suppose chris rock is racist now too?

but just watch it ffs before commenting any further

xp bit more Geldof, no? But it was clearly aimed to be countryfolk I think.

― gyac, Wednesday, April 18, 2012 10:45 AM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Hard to tell given how badly it's done, but it was def some sort of Dub accent. Not going to watch again though.

it's just that modern standard of a British person doing an Irish accent, which does tend to be Dublin now.

tragically enough, it seems to be an advertisement for a gig in Galway

Mumford and Sons series of 'Gentlemen of the Road Stopover...' shows this summer purposely visit centres off the beaten track of international touring. 'We want to stop off in towns not usually heavily toured by bands, and celebrate the people, food and music that inhabit them,' says the band who promise 'a whole lot of fun'.

If you look at the Youtube video comments, it was circulated privately 4 days ago with insiders or whoever, none of whom saw a problem. Insular little circles lead to this kind of shit as much as anything.