Salsa is dead, reggaeton is dead: Long live the rolling Afro-Latin music thread 2009

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re: bannakumbi
doubt i have anything to say that hasn't been already, but it is really well put together as a full album rather than just a couple of hot singles thrown together when you have the time to listen to it through (despite the anti-full album crowd) - the transitions, fading, ambient sounds in the background, the muffled heartbeat at the start of loco, all a nice touch. keeps making me think of the afghan whigs' "black love" in this context.


IMO, this new wave of street merengue, whatever you want to call it, is way more appealing than the nu-cumbia that has gotten more crossover attention, but it tends to be just as connected to hip-hop/R&B/non-Latin pop, etc

disclaimer: generally not a fan of nu-cumbia

but i'd argue nu-cumbia hasn't gotten too much crossover attention either, that mambo de la calle and nu-cumbia are on opposite sides of said crossover... nu-cumbia still comes off as a bunch of indie rock nerds turned danceheads making more dubstep (as apparently there is never enough dubstep?), and seems to stick with that crowd. you don't hear it out in dance clubs vs someone's dj night with no dancing and much head-nods. street merengue at least makes it to mainstream (albeit latin) radio (sony bmg's distributing omega), and the dancefloor, although it hasn't particularly made any rounds in the intellectualized dance music circles yet, give it time of course.

fauxmarc, Monday, 28 December 2009 19:22 (fourteen years ago) link

More dubstep sub-genres, please!

I agree, of course, about Un Nuevo Dia. It works extremely well as an album. Just listening to their myspace, one might get the impression that about half the album is going to sound like the title track and "No Se," but actually there's much more variety than that, and it all balances out. It is on the short side, but I'll take a relatively short album with such high-quality material over bloated mediocrity.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 28 December 2009 20:10 (fourteen years ago) link

re: planet record's merengue urbano v1 2k9

i'm actually digging soundchek's comp of the same name a lot more - p.r.'s has a lot of standard stuff you'd probably hear out than soundchek's (although as mentioned above p.r.'s is more of a beginner's guide). there's some artist crossover but when there is, soundchek's choice is always a better track. one in particular i'm into is "hippo big" by fulanito (going as "dose rock"), out of washington heights - first track on his myspace. doesn't have the rave/electro thing going on as much as some good hip-hop mc'ing over it. never heard of this guy before but he seems to have been around before in a group named fulanito (seems to be solo now, his name being rafael fulanito vargas). used to be known for house + merengue.

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 17:36 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm not too much into Fulanito, especially their newer stuff. I like some individual tracks a lot, but their albums are seriously uneven. I think Americanizao might have the best hit to miss ratio, of their albums, but I haven't dug into EPs and remixes if they get into that much.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 18:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Their re-make of "Sabado en la Noche" from their last album is excellent, but that was already a hit in its original form.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJoojuhOKlQ

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 18:10 (fourteen years ago) link

This is another one I like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5W2xVvlIhc

and this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXRgE7QP-dA&feature=related

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 18:19 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, think i may be more into what he might be doing with his new solo? act than the old stuff.

wisin y yandel allegedly broken up (which i am totally fine with)

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 18:28 (fourteen years ago) link

wisin y yandel allegedly broken up

The question is, will they continue to perform and make music together?

I am actually a fan, of the last two or three albums anyway (never heard the early early stuff), but my wife always laughs when their videos come on and insists they're secretly a couple.

neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Tuesday, 29 December 2009 18:51 (fourteen years ago) link

unperson, I hope they make better music as solo acts than they have been making lately as a duo. unperson, when you say you've never heard their early stuff, how far back are we talking? Does early include P'al Mundo in your mind, or are you thinking of before that album (which I'm mostly unfamiliar with)? Because that's the one that's a benchmark for me, in terms of quality (not that I have actually heard everything on it, or not straight through anyway--but I just finally got around to ordering a copy in the past few days). I also like what I've heard from Los Vaqueros, but I think it's been really spotty since then, and not because I don't think they should change, but because I don't like the changes they've been making, or just simply whatever it is they have been doing. I know you disagree.

fauxmarc, okay, I guess I need to actually click on the link you posted and check out the new stuff.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 19:27 (fourteen years ago) link

I came on board with Pa'l Mundo, and not even the initial release, but the two-disc-plus-DVD deluxe edition, which I think was a year later. I've never heard anything from before that except for maybe a track or two on the Mas Flow compilations.

neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Tuesday, 29 December 2009 19:51 (fourteen years ago) link

Rhumba!!! (@ 2:00)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgLWFNcRb9A

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 1 January 2010 02:52 (fourteen years ago) link


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