Law and Order: Search and Destroy

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You bitch!

― rosemary (rosemary), Saturday, 12 July 2003 03:06 (twenty years ago) link

amateurist yr on the list now

― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 12 July 2003 05:18 (twenty years ago) link

I thought Charmed was the work of Aaron Spelling--of course that does not matter 'cause Law & Order is the work of the only and only:

DICK WOLF.

Best name in showbiz.

― adam (adam), Saturday, 12 July 2003 05:30 (twenty years ago) link

Er, one, and um, only.

― adam (adam), Saturday, 12 July 2003 05:31 (twenty years ago) link

yeah it is aaron spelling. i temporarily rolled every tv producer in my head together into David Kelley.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 12 July 2003 14:18 (twenty years ago) link

David Kelley did do Picket Fences, right?

FF!

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 12 July 2003 14:19 (twenty years ago) link

He was also an LA Law guy, which explains a lot.

― s1utsky (slutsky), Saturday, 12 July 2003 17:07 (twenty years ago) link

He did Snoops with Gina Gershon that was f'n great while it lasted.

― adam (adam), Saturday, 12 July 2003 18:50 (twenty years ago) link

Really?

― s1utsky (slutsky), Saturday, 12 July 2003 18:56 (twenty years ago) link

(not "really he did snoops?" but "really it was great?")

― s1utsky (slutsky), Saturday, 12 July 2003 18:56 (twenty years ago) link

haha - LA Law is literally the lovechild of Kelley and Bochco!

― James Blount (James Blount), Saturday, 12 July 2003 22:30 (twenty years ago) link

explains alot

― James Blount (James Blount), Saturday, 12 July 2003 22:30 (twenty years ago) link

FF!

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Sunday, 13 July 2003 04:42 (twenty years ago) link

two months pass...

So Tuesday's (Tuesday!!!) SVU must have been the episode Mary was talking about. I think they must have run into Mary and asked her about location advice, 'cause they went to Rockaway Beach. And St Stabler delivered a baby?? Jesus Christ.

Law and Order Original Recipe had Dean Wareham as a bartender. I guess they ran out of local bit part actors and now have to use local musicians.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Thursday, 25 September 2003 15:16 (twenty years ago) link

The rerun I saw last night had a serious story about a thoroughbred horse being killed for insurance money. But the horse's name was Mr. Wickets. Imagine the hilarity of Jerry Orbach, Benjamin Bratt, and Sam Waterston gravely discussing Mr. Wickets.

― NA (Nick A.), Thursday, 25 September 2003 15:28 (twenty years ago) link

The professional horse-killer in that episode has appeared as a super-nihilist jailbird in another, and I bet he's got punk-rock roots in real life. Anyone know who this guy is? (I'm too lazy to research myself.)

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 25 September 2003 15:51 (twenty years ago) link

I don't know, but his character's name was Tibor. That's pretty punk.

― NA (Nick A.), Thursday, 25 September 2003 15:55 (twenty years ago) link

three months pass...

LAW AND ORDER COLOURING BOOK!!!

http://www.brandonbird.com/lno_color.html

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 23 January 2004 19:56 (twenty years ago) link

:-O

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 23 January 2004 19:58 (twenty years ago) link

yay internet

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 23 January 2004 19:59 (twenty years ago) link

OMG THERE'S A CONNECT-THE-DOTS AND A MAZE

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 23 January 2004 20:03 (twenty years ago) link

seriously my life is now complete

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 23 January 2004 20:03 (twenty years ago) link

goodbye world

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 23 January 2004 20:04 (twenty years ago) link

I wish it was a real connect-the-dots though! and it was of adam's face!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 23 January 2004 20:05 (twenty years ago) link

That's my friend, Brandon!!!!

― dean! (deangulberry), Friday, 23 January 2004 20:07 (twenty years ago) link

This was on Tuesday night's, Conan, also.

― dean! (deangulberry), Friday, 23 January 2004 20:08 (twenty years ago) link

Also, if you guys want one of those coloring books (I have two, hands off) you should order them from Brandon ASAP. He was in LA this weekend and said he was going to stop printing them fairly soon...

― dean! (deangulberry), Friday, 23 January 2004 20:13 (twenty years ago) link

the other night Dean Wareham played a bartender.

― hstencil, Friday, 23 January 2004 22:07 (twenty years ago) link

In the new episode? He was the bartender who didn't remember the creepy guy in the bar?

― NA (Nick A.), Saturday, 24 January 2004 00:16 (twenty years ago) link

yep, that was him.

― hstencil, Saturday, 24 January 2004 00:16 (twenty years ago) link

Dude. He looked tinier and less handsome than I imagined Dean Wareham to look.

― NA (Nick A.), Saturday, 24 January 2004 00:29 (twenty years ago) link

That wasn't a new epsiode, it was a rerun! And they also said "shit" on this episode, too.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Saturday, 24 January 2004 03:23 (twenty years ago) link

There's at least one L&O casting director working in NoHo, so my friend B figures Dean saw a flyer for the job in Other Music.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Saturday, 24 January 2004 03:24 (twenty years ago) link

John Doe, Dean Wareham, Lisa Lisa, what musician will they have next?

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Saturday, 24 January 2004 03:31 (twenty years ago) link

Theo from the Lunachicks has been on it as an extra. (I'm *severely* addicted to all three L&Os.)

― Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Saturday, 24 January 2004 03:33 (twenty years ago) link

one month passes...

Why I Hate Law & Order

It's really quite simple, it's all about the narrative. I want one. I want one with tension, unpredictable and curious, or I want to laugh at life's folly. I don't want fate's cold repetition.

The show certainly succeeds at something, but I'm not sure I like the terms it has set for itself under which it is successful. We're supposed to view each hour-long show as one story, from crime to courtroom, with an ensemble cast of heroic, if possibly flawed, police and lawyers all working together courageously, if perhaps imperfectly, to drive the plot towards it final destination of the punishment of social evil. Rather like any cop show since Hill Street Blues. Its conceit is its two sections, one of police work and one of prosecution.

In order to get to the second half-hour, in order to justify the show's two part structure, the cops have to capture a criminal. There is no drama in this, no chance that our heroes' flaws might hinder the easy and inevitable progression of suspect to indictment to trial. There is no chance that something missed in the previous weeks' episodes could lead to further tension. The police always get their man.

The second half-hour is only marginally better, with all the possibilities our legal system affords for putting up barriers in the path of justice. Will our steely-jawed protagonists with their flashing eyes and careful hair convince the common twelve, or will a theatrical and cunning defense attorney game the system and get the court to set the guilty free? Since guilt has largely been established in the first half of the show, the tension in the second half is not in the trial's assumption of innocence and proofs to the contrary. What tension there is lies in the working of the system itself, the tricks and games, the tics and bargains of a byzantine legal code and a capricious justice.

I am not impressed. Political or bureaucratic infighting can make fascinating drama if the characters are compelling, if the characters grow and change and what has come before affects what comes after. Stringing together two half-hours of foregone conclusions is not a recipe for continuing chacterization and any chance for drama is lost. After all, every television viewer knows that a half-hour show is supposed to be comedy.

Others are free to differ.

― mariamaria, Friday, 5 March 2004 17:40 (twenty years ago) link

two months pass...

anyone watching jerry orbach's LAST EPISODE??

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 20 May 2004 01:30 (nineteen years ago) link

That was one of the weaker cases I've seen on L&O. Would any DA go to court on "Well, she kind of knew the woman who might have killed her husband who also happened to have had her husband killed. No, we have no physical evidence to support this."

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 20 May 2004 02:05 (nineteen years ago) link

the other night Dean Wareham played a bartender.
-- hstencil (hstenci...), January 23rd, 2004 9:07 AM.

?!?!?!?!?!?!?!! which episode was this?!

― the surface noise made by people (electricsound), Thursday, 20 May 2004 02:07 (nineteen years ago) link

I miss Briscoe already.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 20 May 2004 02:32 (nineteen years ago) link

for our down under Dean Wareham fans

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 20 May 2004 02:33 (nineteen years ago) link

i missed it already :(

― the surface noise made by people (electricsound), Thursday, 20 May 2004 02:41 (nineteen years ago) link

it's on reruns all the time, dude!

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 20 May 2004 02:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Urgh. I missed the last Orbach episode. I was at band practice and forgot to set the VCR. Any word on who's replacing him?

― NA (Nick A.), Thursday, 20 May 2004 14:30 (nineteen years ago) link

please tell me the show is not going to keep going.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 20 May 2004 15:49 (nineteen years ago) link

i mean, i know there hasn't been a single original cast member since adam left, but dear god

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 20 May 2004 15:49 (nineteen years ago) link

I think they should replace Orbach with one of Sam Waterson's eyebrows.

― NA (Nick A.), Thursday, 20 May 2004 15:56 (nineteen years ago) link

dean wareham should join the cast full time! then he and ice should make a record together, it couldn't be any duller than the last handful of luna albums

― the surface noise made by people (electricsound), Thursday, 20 May 2004 21:55 (nineteen years ago) link

The new dectective will be Dennis Farina.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Thursday, 20 May 2004 22:33 (nineteen years ago) link

for real? He may steal the show...

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 20 May 2004 23:01 (nineteen years ago) link

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