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"...completely replaceable with lots of other people's ballads...," I meant. (Which is one of things that bugs me about all the top ten lists I'm seeing "Then" on. For instance, here's Jody Rosen, in Slate's year-end music thing: "The hit was the ballad 'Then,' which I half-think Paisley wrote just to school Rascal Flatts, Nashville's slow-dance schlock-specialists." School them on what exactly? Rascal Flatts already know how to make boring ballads. And their "Summer Nights" was as good a 2009 single as any that Brad did.) (Actually, Rosen said it was to school them on prom songs, fwiw.)

I voted for Paisley's album in Pazz & Jop, and it was my #2 in the Nashville Scene poll, but it's still getting on my nerves how (just like Miranda Lambert) he's increasingly "the country singer it's okay for critics to like." Honestly, that's a good reason to be skeptical.

A link to Rosen's thing:

http://www.slate.com/id/2237677/entry/2237678/

xhuxk, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 23:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Guess it's okay to like Taylor Swift these days, too. And Jamey Johnson. And the Dixie Chicks, if they're still around. All of whom I basically like myself. Not sure why it bugs me, except that there are country artists this decade who I've liked more. (Probably just a kneejerk reflex, part of my chemical makeup from way way back.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 5 January 2010 23:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Maybe it relates to Frank's idea of rendering music lame through our own appreciation. If not, I'm sure he'll pop up here sooner or later to correct me.

I kind of know what Jody meant--probably to his ears, like mine, "Then" fits the mold of a thousand boring songs by Rascal Flatts or whoever, but it's just tons better. And I think it mostly has to do with the verse melody. The refrain could be anybody's anthem, but the verse tune just sounds so spontaneous, and the fact that it's minor in the context of a happy song adds to the song's depth. Sort of like "The Glow of Love" by Change. In fact, the piano riffs start with the same three notes. Hmmm.

(I don't like "Summer Nights" as much as you, partly because when that dude sings "Everybody's gettin' sexy," I have trouble thinking of anyone LESS sexy. Not that I should treat him like a piece of meat.) (But he'd be a really BIG piece of meat.)

dr. phil, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 00:05 (fourteen years ago) link

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Yikes, I've got an affinity of four with Rosen ("Boom Boom Pow," American Saturday Night, Love Vs. Money, and Rated R). I hope somebody beats that.

I basically hate overview writing (though I guess my talking about women on or not on major labels is an overview-type assessment as well). But, like, yes, women are the stars that matter (except in country, where a few matter, but where the men tend to dominate), but, like... so what? What specifically are they doing? --To be fair to Rosen, he's trying to set up a subsequent back-and-forth, which I've not yet read. But Rosen seems to be using his affability to put the subject matter at arm's length.

Frank Kogan, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 00:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Phew, I've got an affinity of five with Xhuxk: "Runaway," "Combination Pizza Hut And Taco Bell," Under The Radar Over The Top, Troubadour, American Saturday Night.

Frank Kogan, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 00:35 (fourteen years ago) link

I dismissed "Then" at first but now like it. For me it pretty much comes down to that one part giving me goose bumps, the part where he sings "but I've said that before" with an upturn in his voice and kind of lets it hang in the air before singing the chorus again. It's about the piano probably but it has to be something more. It isn't that the sentiment or the form of the song is unique, so it's that something else... The way that part builds with feeling, I guess. Still, I didn't put the song in my top 10, and did put "Welcome to the Future" (on both the Nashville Scene one and the Village Voice one, I think). Part of me wanted to switch them out but I could argue for "WTTF" more logically, not just with goosebumps. That's the trap I fell into I suppose.

erasingclouds, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 03:50 (fourteen years ago) link

I listened to Paisley's CD extra loads over the holiday to see if I'd over reacted
to his phony glory of consumer society shtick. He's one of a few to be a public fool, singint tunes which sound like comical super hackwork in the context of 2009.

He was so busy enjoying his consumer electronics boons and custom made Vox repro amps, he
had to let us all know that it he thought it might have been like if the shining city on the hill from the Reagan years came true for him, or something like that. And that he liked water.

"Welcome to the Future" PRO:
the drums kicking in
good guitar fills and solo
soaring chorus
nice progression from mundanity to profundity
gang shouted "Hey"s
first half of verse 3 is really affecting
song makes my wife dance like she's in the '80s, apparently

Damned by faint praise. The best part is its in a major key, is anthemic and copies from Tom Petty and Mike Campbell.

"Welcome to the Future" CON:
the tune sounds a little constructed and forced
"Wake up Martin Luther"
second half of third verse is awkward

I think it's kind of like the quote from the semi-actor Criswell who was in Plan 9 From Outer
Space. The one that simpletons now think is profound.

"We are all interested in the future, for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. And remember my friend, future events such as these will affect you in the
future."

Cue the video parts with the Jap dancing robot and the guys maimed in the Iraq war running
stiffly along on their new titanium alloy spring feet.

Boy, Brad can watch TV on his gadget. And the bad Japanese-land mimic band can sing his songs and wear cowboy hats through the miracle of global communication and the shipping of all clothing manufacturing to China.

If you still have your cellphone billed to your credit card, you can watch TV on it too while your buying your shit with foodstamps at the supermarket.

He needs a self esteem brushback. Shame journalism won't give it to him.

Gorge, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 04:15 (fourteen years ago) link

I take those first two verses of "Welcome to the Future" to be kind of a ruse, actually, to get to the main point of the third verse. The first time I heard it, when listening to the album upon its release, I didn't know anything about the song or album except it being Paisley's new one. Without knowing he was leading up to an Obama punchline, so to speak, the first couple verses almost seemed sarcastic on first listen, in his usual way. Or at least the 'glory glory hallelujah' part does. I think it's smart songwriting for that reason, the way the third verse adds new implications to that phrase, and more meaning to the song as a whole.

erasingclouds, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 20:45 (fourteen years ago) link

The 2009 Nashville Scene Poll results:

http://www.nashvillescene.com/2010-01-07/news/country-music-critics-poll-the-results/

jetfan, Thursday, 7 January 2010 15:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Probably good that they kicked me out of the poll, as I heard ZERO PERCENT of the albums listed. Some of the songs though. I probably would have voted for Los Tigres del Norte and Melinda Doolittle anyway.

mojitos (a cocktail) (Cave17Matt), Thursday, 7 January 2010 16:01 (fourteen years ago) link

In the comments, Chris Neal sez:

Last year, too much loudness (that is, an excess of volume and dynamic-range compression in the mix and/or mastering) did unforgivable damage to what should have been my favorite rock album of the year, Metallica's Death Magnetic. This year it did the same for what should have been my favorite country album of the year, Miranda Lambert's Revolution. Here is an album filled with wonderful songs and terrific performances, neither of which I can stand to listen to because the sound has been so distorted by loudness and flattened by compression that it breaks my heart.

I haven't heard Revolution, but I definitely noticed this about Crazy Ex-Girlfriend. I wanted to listen to it, but after awhile I noticed my ears hurt. So then I'd turn it down, but I couldn't hear it properly. (Still voted for it.) Same deal with Revolution?

dr. phil, Thursday, 7 January 2010 16:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Also, erasingclouds, I heard WTTF the same way. Only the third verse doesn't accomplish its job as effortlessly as I'd like.

Gorge, what's your opinion of "Then"?

dr. phil, Thursday, 7 January 2010 16:21 (fourteen years ago) link

The big news was that Brad Paisley and Miranda Lambert, famous enough to follow the Garth Brooks Model, followed the Willie Nelson Model instead. They bet their reputations on edgier songwriting and edgier performances, trying to fix something that wasn't even broken. They gambled and won. -Geoff Himes

Did I miss something this year--did Brad and Miranda release weird reggae albums like Willie once did? Not clear how much "edgier" their latest releases were, although I guess Paisley's Obama-friendly lyrics must count as edgy in a Nashville world.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 7 January 2010 16:29 (fourteen years ago) link

I think the pandering went over the top on Paisley's album. The first thing that brought me to it was the vid for "Welcome to the Future" which has no perceptible undercurrents in it at all. He made it, right? So he must have had something to do with its role as a vehicle for consumer electronics and the corny phonus-balonus of amputees running along on their alloy springs and the kid in the wheelchair aspiring to be an explorer. An explorer of what? Which business establishments have proper handicapped access?

I liked the two albums before it -- didn't get the instro one. "Future" instrumentally sounds great but so did a bunch of things on 5th Gear without being so annoying. He definitely has the cater to the
myths of the country in 'im. He's called himself an observational humorist but he's not Mark Twain.

I think he actually believes 99 percent of the crap in the song. If there's any subtlety to it, I'm missing it. Perhaps because it really rubbed me the wrong way from the very start.

Gorge, Thursday, 7 January 2010 17:23 (fourteen years ago) link

I guess I wouldn't say he doesn't BELIEVE the crap in his song, but that he's also mocking himself for being such a happy consumer. But yeah, the title song definitely establishes the character of Brad the Happy Consumer.

In re Garth Brooks not being edgy, the first song I think of whenever people discuss Brad's politix in Nashville is Garth's "We Shall Be Free."

dr. phil, Thursday, 7 January 2010 17:40 (fourteen years ago) link

(I don't know whether that song's "edgy" or not--just that Garth and Brad seem to have the same amount of edge.)

dr. phil, Thursday, 7 January 2010 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link

I predict this will be Himes's most controversial statement:

Swift is already further along than Parton or Cash were at the same age and seems to possess many of the same qualities. But she's at a crucial transition period where the guidance of a Porter Wagoner, a Johnny Cash or the like could make all the difference. She needs to tap into the subsoil of country-music history or else she will easily be toppled by the changing winds and trends of pop. And that would be a shame.

This seems excessive and unfounded. Why can't she just keep putting out Taylor Swift albums? Taylor Swift Turns 20. Taylor Swift Has Kids. The possibilities are endless. I would enjoy seeing nominations for who her Porter Wagoner should be, though. Jamey Johnson?

dr. phil, Thursday, 7 January 2010 17:56 (fourteen years ago) link

That seems a case of 'what she needs to do' is whatever matches his own personal taste. She better watch out, or else those mysterious 'changing winds' will get her.

erasingclouds, Thursday, 7 January 2010 18:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Maybe Himes just means that country stars are guaranteed longer, more secure careers than pop stars (as in Caramanica's essay a few days ago)? Though that in itself is probably a debatable claim, and I have a feeling I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt by even suggesting it.

Lots to disagree with in that Scene section obviously. I'll have to wrap my head around it more before I even start (assuming I ever do.)

xhuxk, Thursday, 7 January 2010 18:20 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm on Himes' e-mail list and received his list of his 100 fave 2009 albums with his little blurbs on them, plus I've been reading his writing in DC and Baltimore publications and New Orleans' Offbeat magazine for a long while. I think he writes well but his taste has always been more 'roots' than pop. He has always been a musical traditionalist (albeit allowing a certain degree of envelope pushing) so his advice to Taylor Swift is not surprising, and I guess his thinking that Brad is "edgy" is not surprising either (I do not think Himes was referring to the consumerism lyrics that bug Gorge but to the vaguely political ones).

curmudgeon, Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:03 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm not going to debate the merits of Taylor Swift; she's a songwriter and a figure and a successful one. And I usually don't exactly agree with Himes on much. He sends out a list of his 100 best records of the year and I generally find his jazz selections all right and the other stuff, ecch. (Don't get Buddy and Julie Miller or Justin T. Earle [wish he would change his name to that as it evokes a cornier era in country I'd like to see come back, fat chance of that] or Daddy Earle's snooze-fest a la Townes V.Z.) And I think that Himes has probably, like many another critic (I had a very very amusing meeting with one of 'em this summer; she kept telling me she was really a writer but had gone over to the "other side of the fence" but had come back; meanwhile, she dropped every possible name she could, including those of the Artists she's been involved with career-wise), perhaps bought into the whole shebang here a little too much. Maybe. What Himes thinks is that there's a continuum of "country music" and that Taylor Swift has something to do with that. I mean who does he think she is, Melba Montgomery or Connie Smith?? She's a songwriter who lives in Nashville because that's where songwriters live. And I for one think that country music is more or less an idiom; anyone can live in Nashville and write songs, right? So the idea that she's gonna dip into the George Jones catalog or even be as "country" as Reba, who I've never been able to stomach (do like the sitcom in a way), seems to me just way beside the point of who she is. One thing that Nashville is very good at is paying lip service to "country" (as a marketing tool, as a reference point, but certainly not as an idiom), and Taylor Swift benefits from this. I said at the beginning I wasn't gonna debate the merits of Swift and I won't, but I simply find it incredible that anyone thinks she has anything to do with country music--as an idiom, may I repeat. Lots of songs "tell stories," I mean fuck, back in the olden days did anyone think Gordon Lightfoot had that much to do with "country music"? Would anyone disagree that he has a lot more to do with it that Swift on almost any level you could choose? (Saw a great SCTV thing from '81 in which they were hawking a collection of Lightfoot "singing every song ever written.") All this has happened before in a different guise, cf. Olivia Newton-John and the flap over that, only back then Nashville was far more a hick town and there was actual outrage that Newton-John's shit was labeled and marketed "country." And I'll point out that this year I interviewed Norbert Putnam, who was the dude who made Joan Baez a pop star with her terrible version of "Night They Drove Old Dixie" and who recorded "Please Come Back to Boston" or whatever that is, Dave Loggins, not to mention Eric Anderson or the dreaded Dan Fogelberg. (But Norbert did a lot of other good stuff, too; and his importance is probably not the in the records he made but in the technical side of it all, the studiocraft which led to the big crossover. This was almost 40 fucking years ago, and no one advised Dan Fogelberg to study up on Lefty Frizzell or Diana Trask albums.) So maybe the whole thing comes down to a lack of historical awareness; what's relevant about Swift is that she came up as a songwriter but not as a musician who, like, went on the road or had to play some honky-tonk in Oklahoma to make it; probably even Garth Brooks had to endure some of those gigs. Frank says she can do stuff with her voice in the studio and I guess that's true. More power to her.

Paisley has become the Beck of country, everyone likes him and thinks he "transcends" the genre. I like him fine. Has he dipped into the past of country? I dunno. I hear him as a kind of white Johnny Guitar Watson or one of those guys, a guitarist-singer. This summer, Caroline and I saw Robben Ford play Nashville. Ford is a super-guitarist and does this kinda dull but not bad blues thing these days, it's competent, depends on whether you like blues. Well, he's playing away, all those fluent jazzy things, just great. And brings out some country guests: Paisley first, with his cap turned backwards. They jam. Paisley sorta keeps up, but compared to Ford it's Blues 101 licks, hardly sophisticated in this context. He hadn't been studying them chords and stuff. But cool, whatever, I like Brad and he can certainly play. Then Vince Gill comes out, looking as though he had come from the golf course, very well-fed. He can play, but he plugs in and it's even more Blues 101, kinda stiff. So we're in the old Belcourt in Nashville and lo and behold, there are actual black people in the audience! Like the Apollo! And they start heckling Gill: "Hey man, you can't play! Let's see you cut it up there! Let's see if the man can play!" and so forth. Very familiar from my Memphis days when there were real audiences and not, you know, a bunch of Nashville, er, enthusiasts...so Gill soldiers on, actually he can't really play what the demands of Ford's jazz vocab, not at all. Kinda like page 2 of the B.B. King Book of Licks for tenth graders in Alabama. So Gill has enough and actually told the folks to "fuck off!"; they just laughed and so did I, but of course, the audience was appalled. I guess they hadn't even read about Kansas City or Uptown Charlie Parker or Coleman Hawkins and Lester Young, cuttin' heads in the old days. See, it's all about the idiom. Good to see all you guys, I promise to not be a stranger any more, sincerely, Edd Hurt.

ebbjunior, Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Not sure where to place this, or if anyone read it, but here's the decade in country according to Stylus.

Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 January 2010 00:03 (fourteen years ago) link

Hey, Edd, great to see you posting. Yeah, and don't be a stranger.

And you too, Alfred. Haven't perused the Stylus decade section yet because I was so pissed that Dave Moore wasn't invited to contribute, though I realize that that's a dumb attitude on my part. It's not the fault of the writers, just of whoever chose and botched the invitees list. In any event, I'll definitely give that country thing by Inskeep and Love a look. And I'll give Edd's idiom thing some thought.

Brief shot about Geoff's writeup: I'm positive I could learn a lot from a list of 100 records provided by Taylor Swift. So could Geoff Himes, I bet, and Jamey Johnson. Geoff is making Jamey seem narrow by suggesting that Jamey couldn't learn from someone else's list.

And, by the way, as someone who was automatically given my First Wednesday Of The Month Senior Discount at Albertson's this week without the cashier even asking if I was eligible, I'll point out that Taylor Swift does have a country vet who's nearly as old as I am as a collaborator and one might presume as something of a mentor as well, though I don't know anything about how they work.

Also, Taylor made absolutely zero effort to pander to the country audience's need for reassurance, and that audience bought her records anyway. I wish Adkins and Atkins et al. would follow her example. (Not that such pandering can't result in great art - my favorite country album of the decade, Montgomery Gentry's Carrying On, is swamped in such attempts at reassurance - but the pandering has become so accepted and rote, and vague and boring. Seems to hurt Atkins in particular as a lyricist.)(Maybe the problem is that I'm pissed at myself for loving that Alabama fight song by Trace Adkins.)

Frank Kogan, Friday, 8 January 2010 01:35 (fourteen years ago) link

I posted my ballot on last year's thread, but here are my comments:

Geoff - You'll notice that I stuck Taylor Swift up top of my ballot for the "Platinum Edition" of Fearless, and I can rationalize this because three of the six new tracks are significantly great - even if one of those three has been floating around the Web for a couple of years and another is an alternate version of a song that's already on the album. But honestly, I'm putting the album on my list because I missed the boat on it last year, ranked it number three but hadn't truly digested it yet, how good it was or what it was doing. But also I want to argue against your zero-sum dichotomy that implies that the "suburban" Taylors aren't leaving room for the "small town" Jameys. I don't see this happening - if "High Cost Of Living" doesn't get radio play, that's hardly because "You Belong With Me" does - but also I don't accept your suburban-rural mapping of this. My mapping would be more like: What's going on is that country is absorbing both male folkie romanticism and feminine folkie romanticism, but the latter is harder for you to swallow.

There's a line that runs from Dylan to Springsteen to Mellencamp to a whole shitload of country, and that's pretty well accepted, or anyway I don't see vast ire at the Eric Church types who rock like mothers even while pledging allegiance to the Hag, or at Brooks & Dunn for wallowing in Stones and Skynyrd. And folk-rock that goes Dylan-James Taylor-Garth is pretty much accepted too. But there's a line that goes from Dylan and Joan Baez to Judy Collins to Joni Mitchell to Stevie Nicks to Tori Amos to Alanis Morissette, a feminine line that becomes more and more singer-songwriter and that comes from a girly-girlie world of English-class poetry and teen diary self-expression; and it jumped to teenpop in the '00s via Nelly Furtado and Michelle Branch and Pink and a slew of others, but it also has worked its way into country, in Deana Carter and Natalie Maines and SheDaisy, and then Michelle Branch and Jewel moved it explicitly into country from teenpop and pop respectively. (Not that anyone I mention comes from a single line of music. Everyone's a mongrel here.)

So, here's Taylor Swift, who draws on the female singer-songwriter insistence that the story of her music be very much her story, her sensibility, her voice finding itself and finding its way, while her character develops by way of romantic relationships recounted in song. What I'm seeing is that bohemian romanticism has long since rolled into country in male rambler garb (and male drug fuckup garb), but meanwhile it's also rolling into country by way of female self-expression, the rambling being frankly psychological and emotional rather than taking place only in bars and motels or wearing a cowboy hat in honor of a lost prairie, but it's still roaming the range anyway, even if it's shepherding thoughts rather than herding cattle.

Taylor is pretty much her own genre at this point, and she's the greatest singer within my earshot, using the wavers and quavers of her voice for whipsaw effect as much as for vulnerability. From the YouTube evidence it's something of a crap shoot whether she'll be on pitch live, and award shows cause her to stumble, so maybe Taylor doesn't happen without the modern recording studio. So hurrah for the modern recording studio.

Taylor's sensibility isn't necessarily mine; take the excellently written line, "Abigail gave everything she had to a boy who changed his mind; we both cried." Well, when I was fifteen there were U.S. soldiers who really gave everything they had, for a country that was changing its mind, and I was helping the country change its mind by way of antiwar activities. (And I hear that some Vietnamese died too.) Taylor's actual fifteen surely contained thoughts about wars and global warming etc., such thoughts not making it into her songs, this absence maybe being timidity or may just indicate what works for her as a songwriter. But within her chosen topics she never cheats. E.g., compare to Brad Paisley's pretty good "Anything Like Me," which is full of standard events, boy climbing tree that's too tall, and so on, an implied, "You know what this is like, you know what childhood is like, you know what we're like." Well, Taylor doesn't assume that you know what it's like, so she's going to tell you, whether it's a day in school or a day with her dad. And if the country genre does accept her - which it sure seems to, and she's now its biggest seller - that means she's part of a process where country rewrites what life is like, doesn't take its sharing of experience for granted.

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Quick thoughts going back to what you wrote in your essay two years ago; I don't accept that my liking Miranda Lambert is a sign of my willingness to challenge my own assumptions or to hear something I don't already know. There's a line of music that goes from Dylan and the Stones and the Yardbirds to the Velvet Underground to the Stooges to the Dolls to the Sex Pistols, and that's the music I lived and breathed for years. So my voting for Miranda Lambert is my chance to vote for the home team, or at least for the closest that Nashville will come to giving me one. So Miranda's great expressive hyperbolized rage and vengeance don't challenge me in the least. Whereas what does challenge me is Carrie Underwood's "Jesus Take The Wheel." I identified hard with the narrator in that one, the sense that I don't have control over my own spinouts, the song challenging me to reach outside myself for help and direction and getting my shit together. That the word "Jesus" doesn't contain an answer for atheist me doesn't change my situation or my need in the slightest.

Also, for what it's worth, the anger in Taylor songs such as "Cold As You" and "You're Not Sorry" and "Forever & Always" gutslugs me even harder than the anger in Miranda's Crazy Ex-Girlfriend and Revolution. "It rains when you're here and it rains when you're gone." What a fierce, vulnerable line!

Frank Kogan, Friday, 8 January 2010 07:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Hey, welcome back, Edd!! Great to see you on here. This thread is cooking already -- lots of different people posting. Bodes well, even if I'm going through a period now where I'm not sure how much I care about current current music (and/or country radio) anymore. We'll see.

Predictably, I was going to say I can't imagine anymore why anybody would claim that Taylor Swift isn't country; when she gets played all the time country radio, I don't have to make the decision with my own ears. Her genre's been decided for me, and Olivia Newton-John was country, by defintion, in the '70s, too, for exactly the same reason. Also, who the heck cares about musicians paying dues on a live stage, anyway? I don't even go see shows anymore, and I'm in fucking Austin. But I know that's not Edd's point, with his "idiom" stipulation (which I have to ponder more too; honestly not really sure what that means.) And I really don't know whether I'd consider Taylor country if she didn't come up through country radio, or if I will if country radio stops playing her. (Well, I probably will, when it comes to country music polls which is the only place it matters much anyway, since I usually tend to give genres the broadest definitions possible.) That said, I kind of like the idea of country music being some secret society with a secret handshake and all (especially because I just saw Brad Paisley listed in a NY Times editorial this morning among celebrities who have been Freemasons. Did all those older New Kung Pao Buckaroos teach him the oath? Speaking of paying dues.)

Oddly, I was actually listening to Gordon Lightfoot's Complete Greatest Hits (Rhino, 2002) yesterday morning, before I read Edd's post, wondering where he might fit into Frank's story of confessional songwriters evolving through the post-Dylan/Joni ages. Which means I somehow made the Taylor connection, inadvertently, in my head. If he put out a great album this year, I can't imagine I wouldn't consider it eligible for a Nashville Scene ballot. But deep down, I guess I'd still consider him more a "folk" than country guy (even though I always thought Sawyer Brown's singer Mark Miller sort of sounded like him, vocally, at least on the ballads.) (Hey, there's another '90s country band with enough decent hits for a best-of CD.)

The one comment I should have made about what-counts-as-country in my Scene ballot was why I decided the Southern /Chitlin Circuit soul singles I liked last year -- Larry Shannon Hargrove “I Need A Bailout”, Mel Waiters “Everything Is Going Up (But My Paycheck)," Floyd Taylor “Southern Soul Party” -- weren't eligible for my country list. Also "Fallin' Faster" by Hope Partlow's band, the Love Willows. Since it's stuff I actually left out, it's a more interesting question for me, somehow, since it would've explored my own line of thinking. (Though honestly, I probably just left them out since there were too many undenibaly country singles I thought were good enough to list.)

xhuxk, Friday, 8 January 2010 17:28 (fourteen years ago) link

who the heck cares about musicians paying dues on a live stage, anyway?

Well, I do, at least indirectly, because often as not that kind of seasoning helps makes the playing on their albums more compelling -- one reason I infinitely prefer, say, '70s hard rock to '00s indie rock where bands together for mere weeks get famous just from a webpage. (Also, I have to say, that story about Vince Gill is totally hilarious.)

xhuxk, Friday, 8 January 2010 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Just saw this Ricky Skaggs q and a interview at the Washington City Paper blog:
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/artsdesk/music/2010/01/08/the-arts-desk-interview-ricky-skaggs/
Here's an excerpt:

Can country music outlast the genre mixing and mashing that “the kids” insist upon today? Or will it be absorbed into something else?

If (country) stays on the American Idol scene where its videos want to look like VH1 and the sound wants to be so far away from country and be more pop and be more absorbed by the pop listener where someone buys a John Mayer CD and a hip-hop CD and a Taylor Swift CD—there’s hardly any differentiation anymore. It’s like country music doesn’t have a sound. When “Sweet Home Alabama” sounds country…[Skaggs, contemplating a world in which Lynyrd Skynyrd's "Sweet Home Alabama" sets the standard for country, seems to shudder.]

["Sweet Home Alabama"] sounds like everything that’s coming out of Nashville. We’ve really gone in a different direction. But that’s one of the things that sparked me to go back and discover that deep well of water that’s still there. There’s still a pure taste in this old music. There’s things to discover. There’s new music there…

I don’t care if it’s 2010. You can go there and be back in the ’30s and ’40s and thank God that we’ve got recordings from back then. Raccoon and I has this discussion here not long ago. [The author isn't sure whether "Raccoon" is Skaggs brother, bandmate, attorney, doctor, or dentist, and, though he could probably find out with a quick Google Search, prefers the presence of an unidentified man (or woman!) named "Raccoon" in this interview.] There’s so much. Why would we wanna fight and fuss over this new music that’s being played these days when we can go back and glean from all these great old players?

curmudgeon, Friday, 8 January 2010 18:46 (fourteen years ago) link

x-post. Wow, Chuck, I would not expect you to say that. But what about jam bands? I assume they practice a ton and play out alot and does that make their albums sound compelling?

curmudgeon, Friday, 8 January 2010 18:50 (fourteen years ago) link

On American Saturday Night, he defies his own formula more than ever—and without guests to
lean on.

<sarcasm>Brad Paisley as 'defiant' on his album -- now there's an assessment brooking no room for doubt.
Yeah, he's certainly self-defiant from top to bottom.</sarcasm>

Gorge, Friday, 8 January 2010 18:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Nah, curmudgeon, I didn't mean to imply that live dues-paying makes everybody more interesting on record. Obviously there are thousands of exceptions where it does just the opposite. Which was kinda my point.

And see, one thing I don't get about Taylor Swift "not sounding country," meaning "she doesn't sound like old country music" is, goddamit, NEITHER DOES ANYBODY ELSE. George Strait, who can be really good sometimes, doesn't sound like Merle Haggard, and his Western Swing stuff doesn't sound like Bob Wills. (It's nowhere near funky or jazzy enough, for one thing.) Those Darlins, who I really want to like, don't half match the energy of the '80s cowpunk they're aping or the '20s/'30s White Country blues they're aping. Miranda Lambert and Brad Paisley have rock music in their sounds that country wouldn't have touched just a couple decades ago. And right, I can't think of many old country albums that are as deadassed as what I've heard from either Dad or Son Earle lately. This is neither good nor bad. Everything changes. But if Taylor isn't country, I'd really love to know who is.

I dunno, maybe Ricky Skaggs genuinely is a purist now. He's been a student of the stuff long enough that maybe he really can convincingly replicate the sound of the '30s and '40s. But I'm skeptical. And truth is, his best albums from the '80s (Highways And Heartaches, for instance) had great studio pop hooks of their own. Hell, he even put Ed Koch and subway breakdancers in a video once, and I loved it. Hypocrite:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0crpP7l8VJw

xhuxk, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Or I dunno, undoubtedly there are artists whose sounds maintain more stylistic reference points to country of distant previous decades than Taylor's sound does, even if the ultimate result doesn't sound exactly like old country in their cases. I suppose that's people's point. It's just that, to me, acting like pop crossover is some new thing in hit country music, when really it's been going on longer than the almost half-century I've been alive, is really willful. (But I'm obviously not saying anything here that I haven't said a zillion time before.)

xhuxk, Friday, 8 January 2010 19:50 (fourteen years ago) link

Oddly, I was actually listening to Gordon Lightfoot's Complete Greatest Hits (Rhino, 2002) yesterday morning, before I read Edd's post, wondering where he might fit into Frank's story of confessional songwriters evolving through the post-Dylan/Joni ages.

He probably fits in around '68 or '69; '67 or '68 is when my brother gets Judy Collins' Wildflowers and then we go backwards and forward from there, to Judy Collins' Fifth Album, In My Life, and Who Knows Where The Time Goes?, which for me and a lot of music listeners is the first we hear songs written by Leonard Cohen and Joni Mitchell (though Noel Harrison has a minor hit with Cohen's Suzanne before I heard Collins' version). Who Knows Where The Time Goes is the first I hear a song written by Sandy Denny. Collins' version of "Mr. Tambourine Man" may be the first time I hear that song as well, since I hadn't been listening to top 40 radio in '65. I have no idea why or how - I don't think it was through my brother, who'd now gone off to college - I hear of Gordon Lightfoot and buy his second or third album, the one with "Canadian Railroad Trilogy" on it. Some of that album feels beautiful and moving, at least for several months - I remember getting into a fight with my parents, and afterwards stomping off to my bedroom and putting my head between the speakers and listening to the album and thinking, "Well, here, this guy is doing something beautiful," which contrasts with whatever I feel my parents have just done to me. But eventually I decide that Lightfoot is simply too weak and soft-headed (though that might mean he ought to be now ripe for re-evaluation).

Oddly, the only thing I now remember from the record is "Canadian Railroad Trilogy," which I recall as being more rousing than pretty. The songs that come to mind from the guy don't strike me as confessional (and I'm sure I wasn't using the word "confessional" then in regard to music). But then, the only ones I remember other than "Trilogy" are "That's What You Get For Loving Me," which is a young-man-as-charming-rake genre exercise, and pretty funny, "Black Day In July," about the Detroit riots ("It wasn't just the temperature/And it wasn't just the season"), was dramatic and really good, I thought, and then "Sundown," whenever that hit, which again isn't him opening his heart, particularly; when I think about it "Sundown" might be the character in "That's What You Get For Loving Me" but addressed in the second-person by a rival. Doesn't it go "Sundown you better beware/If I find you creepin' 'round my back stair"? (I feel it would be cheating for me to Google or Wiki for this info, since I'm trying to say what my memory is telling me.) In any event, I didn't keep up with Lightfoot but my impression is that he evolved from "folkie" to "folkie for smoochers" or something, and I imagine him playing supper clubs with rustic fireplaces, though I'm sure he actually played regular old folk clubs.

In the post-Garth world there's no reason to assume that a latter-day Lightfoot might not cross to country, if he had decent enough songs, but I think the reason country radio is so comfortable with Taylor is that she feels like the heartland in a way that folkies don't, even if her chords and riffs don't flaunt antiquity. As for those chords and riffs, they actually don't scream Sugar Pop* in the way that, say, Lady GaGa and Britney Spears songs do, and Taylor doesn't come across as crossover diva in the way that LeAnn Rimes and Faith Hill sometimes do; I think the country listener is pretty used to women singers with one foot in adult contemporary, and vice versa; I'd say AC's been a part of the language of country radio for the last couple of decades, though you guys know more about those previous decades than I do.

*Well, "You Belong With Me" does, somewhat, and more power to it.

Frank Kogan, Friday, 8 January 2010 20:34 (fourteen years ago) link

my impression is that he evolved from "folkie" to "folkie for smoochers"

This might be true, especially if you're trying to smooch widows of guys who died in Edmund Fitzgerald. (Actually, Gordon may well have smoochier material later in career; I've just never heard it. "Sundown" is clearly about smooching a wayward prostitute, however, and "Go-Go Round" about smooching a go-go dancer. "If I Could Read Your Mind" maybe about smooching a ghost from the wishing well in a castle dark or a fortress strong with chains upon your feet; "Early Morning Rain" about the memory of smooching fast women and drinking liquor the night before but now you're smooching wet grass out on runway number nine. Why the hell is here, anyway? I've never figured that out. He's only got a dollar, and he knows you can't jump a plane like freight train.)

xhuxk, Friday, 8 January 2010 21:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Meant "If You Could Ready My Mind," obviously. (And "died on the Edmund Fitzgerald." You know, on that big lake they called Gitchie Goomie. Doubt any better geography lesson about the Great Lakes has ever hit the pop chart. Still waiting for somebody to do a doom-metal version.)

I never even noticed the words to "Go Go Round" before yesterday, fwiw.

xhuxk, Friday, 8 January 2010 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link

And come to think of it, why have I always "clearly" thought the hard lovin' woman in "Sundown" is a prostitute, anyway? (Just because she's lying back in her satin dress in a room where you do what ya don't confess? Or because she looks like a queen from a sailor's dream?? Not nearly enough to go on!)

xhuxk, Friday, 8 January 2010 21:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Neat trick, for a confessional singer-songwriter: He does what you don't confess, then he indirectly confesses it to us anyway!

xhuxk, Friday, 8 January 2010 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link

xpost (Yeah, come to think of it I don't remember the lyrics to "Sundown" at all, other than that one line, so what I said about it might have been pretty stupid.)

These days country tends to define itself sonically more by instrumentation and accent than by notes and chord progressions; at least that's how I hear it. A difference between Taylor Swift and Fearless is that on the latter Taylor decided to forgo the twang and the blatant mandolins and fiddles (though they appear; as do violins), probably said, "Fuck it, I'll sing in my own voice."

On the other hand, I do think that the melody and chords to "Our Song" and the chorus to "Teardrops On My Guitar" sound more country - in a way that I can't put my finger on - than anything on Fearless, but those more typically country notes make those two songs worse than they'd be without them. (I suspect that Xhuxk'll disagree. Isn't "Our Song" one of your favorite Taylor songs?) But as I've been saying, what I think gets her across to country fans - beyond the fact that she's really good - is that people in the mainstream of country listening* are willing to attune themselves to her sensibility, and therefore even willing to let her take them to new places.

*I'm using that awkward phrase to differentiate them from someone like me, who listens to mainstream country radio and is a fan of the music but isn't in the mainstream of such listeners; "primary audience" might be another term. But "mainstream of such listeners/primary audience" doesn't denote a single type, either; just doesn't include me. (Of course, she's crossing big to noncountry fans as well.)

Frank Kogan, Friday, 8 January 2010 21:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Meant "If You Could Ready My Mind," obviously

Uh, obviously not. (At least the "Ready" part.)

why the hell is here, anyway?

why the hell IS HE THERE, anyway? Jeez...

xhuxk, Friday, 8 January 2010 22:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Simon Frith, contrasting Celine Dion to Barbra Streisand:

Dion is, by contrast, a populist. Her voice is as rich in timbre as Streisand's and as flexible, but her approach to balladry draws on different traditions, on soul and country music. From soul she takes a method of direct expression, sound as physical feeling; from country she takes the sense of the everyday, cutting emotions down to size.

This isn't about "idiom," the musical language, so much as about the result, how one uses one's language. I don't think genres are idioms, at least not at the expense of sensibility and results - not just the "vocabulary" you employ, but also what do with it, and people with different vocabularies can find themselves doing similar things. (Not that a genre can be limited to a set of results either.)

I wouldn't say that Taylor cuts emotions down to size, but then I wouldn't necessarily have associated "everyday" and "down to size" anyway. Some people go from drama to drama every day. What Taylor does is to show big emotions arising within the details of everyday life.

In any event, I started off thinking of Taylor as Ashlee South, so it's not my particular issue whether Taylor is or isn't country - though it sure makes country richer and better if she is. But I wonder how much music of the last fifty years or so that has been created by people in or near country is considered "not country" for being too pop, but it isn't that the sound came from somewhere else, The Land Of Pop, but rather it came from these people, who helped create modern country and therefore modern pop. (Again, someone else will have to give this argument flesh, since I don't know the music's past well enough.)

Frank Kogan, Friday, 8 January 2010 22:16 (fourteen years ago) link

helped create modern country and therefore modern pop

Well, obviously didn't help create all of modern pop, just pieces of it.

Frank Kogan, Friday, 8 January 2010 22:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Here's a link to Geoffrey Himes' 100 Best Albums of 2009

http://sonicboomers.com/albumreviews-0

jetfan, Saturday, 9 January 2010 01:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Drunk-dialing masterpiece "Need You Now" is number 5 on Billboard's ringtones chart!

Frank Kogan, Saturday, 9 January 2010 14:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Meanwhile Skaggs tells the Washington Post he likes some bluegrass

Ask Ricky Skaggs about his favorite contemporary bluegrass acts and he'll rattle off a mighty list: Cherryholmes, The Infamous Stringdusters, Mountain Heart, Blue Highway, Sierra Hull and many others. But ask him about his favorite new country artists and... crickets. Skaggs thinks the genre has "lost its way."

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/clicktrack/2010/01/be_specific_bluegrass_great_ri.html

curmudgeon, Saturday, 9 January 2010 18:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Caramanica on banda singer Jenni Rivera (whose new album is said to be an all-mariachi affair on which she covers country singer Freddie Fender's "Before The Next Teardrop Falls"); some indie band called Wild Yaks (who Jon says play "country-rock", though since he said the same about indie band Girls I'm skeptical, and since he calls their country-rock lackadaisical I assume I'd hate anyway); and the Huntsville, Alabama hip-hop scence (featuring the hit "Fresh" by 6 Tre G, which I'm pretty sure I heard on the radio a week or two ago and actually liked):

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/10/arts/music/10play.html

xhuxk, Monday, 11 January 2010 15:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Jenni Rivera has been covering Tex-Mex for years; still prefer her banda version of "I Will Survive" with its wailing clarinets though. She's awesome.

mojitos (a cocktail) (Cave17Matt), Monday, 11 January 2010 15:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Although in "Ala-Freakin-Bama" Trace Adkins says he grew up on Skynyrd, the song sounds at least as much (or a lot more) like he grew up on Gary Glitter or Joan Jett doing the Standells.

Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 14:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Kara DioGuardi about writing for country artists:

It's lyrically heavy in a way pop music isn't. It's got to be the perfect way to put it, but it's also got to have emotion [that resonates]. It's poetic in a way that pop music isn't. It really tests me. It makes me go back to songwriting 101. It's not just describing an emotion at face value, it's more like, "Here's the emotion -- how do I say it in a way that's interesting, so that someone gets what I'm trying to put across but it's also a twist on it?"

[For instance], "I Hope You Dance"? What an incredible metaphor. I hope you take that risk, I hope you take that chance, I hope you live life to the fullest. The way they paint that picture, when they get to the chorus you know exactly what they're talking about. I'm very drawn to the genre because I feel like I've become a better writer by going down there, and I'm always learning in the sessions.
--Billboard Interview

Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 17:37 (fourteen years ago) link

(I don't think it's such an incredible metaphor, myself.)

Frank Kogan, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 17:40 (fourteen years ago) link

You're not terrified of dancing the way some of us are.

dr. phil, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Christgau wraps up 2009 (year in music):

http://bit.ly/6wSxv7

jetfan, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 00:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Huh, interesting. Great minds (and mediocre ones like me too sometimes) think alike, apparently. Wonder if Dave has ever seen my essay on the same subject. (I'd link to it, but I don't think it's anywhere on line. Book only came out in the UK too, I believe.)

I hadn't seen it! I'll have to look for that. I did figure other people had written on the subject before but didn't look for articles. I was thinking about the subject a lot this year, partly because for a while each new country album I listened to seemed to have another song referencing a Mexican vacation. Also my real-world (non-music-related) day job is at a nonprofit that does work in Mexico, so I have been very aware of the violence there this year.

erasingclouds, Monday, 22 November 2010 16:40 (thirteen years ago) link

this one so far I'm finding a snooze, very by-the-numbers. I need to listen to it more, though.

By the way, this new Keith Urban album is a lot better than I made it sound above. Now that I've listened a few times, I'm really enjoying it. It's fun. There are two songs that reference singing along to a car radio, and that seems like the feeling he's going for. The second of those songs, Long Hot Summer, is especially good, with a very 80s-pop start (reminds of something particular but I haven't put a finger on it - the Police? or the Cars maybe? not sure yet) before the big rousing chorus. Also like the power ballad about falling in love in the 'Georgia woods', which gets pretty rocking and guitar solo-heavy near the end, and the ballad about how his wife is the best because she lets him spend his time with fast cars and loud guitars (or something like that).

erasingclouds, Monday, 22 November 2010 20:06 (thirteen years ago) link

If Flynnville's "Sandman" was a single
In this Age of Fiberglass, I mean Downloads, almost everything is in effect released as a single (except a few Album Only teasers, on Amazon anyway). That's pretty much the point, even though pulled like teeth, minus gas, from "majoe labels." And what's Himes gonna do, send your ballot back?

dow, Thursday, 25 November 2010 00:16 (thirteen years ago) link

oops, I meant marjoe labels o course.

dow, Thursday, 25 November 2010 00:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Now on Listening Party: Tim McGraw's Number One Hits (24 of 'em)
http://music.aol.com/new-releases-full-cds/#/2

dow, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 00:21 (thirteen years ago) link

I actually reviewed that album for rollingstone.com:

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/reviews/album/69206/238458

As for "Sandman" (and everything else) sort of being a single, yeah, I get that, Don. But I still prefer sticking (and prefer other people sticking) to songs that were at least somehow promoted as singles -- on radio, on video channels, as actual standalone physical objects, as top-song-on-a-band's-MySpace-page, whatever. (Plus, I'm voting for Flynnville Train's album, probably, so also voting for a random track that wasn't even conceived as a single by the band seems both redundant and counter to the spirit in which the polls were conceived.) If it's promoted as a single a year later (a la Jamey J's "High Cost Of Living") I'll consider it, though.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 03:06 (thirteen years ago) link

y'all really need to see/hear/comment on this:

Staind "goes country" and holy hell is it ever awful

hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Friday, 10 December 2010 18:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Ah, cameo by George Jones.

The guy drives an old army truck and shoots white-tail deer. He's a bit too ugly for CMT but it could still happen. He fits the artist profile, the one in which all the guy's who've assiduously avoided charging off to war with their guns, brawn and beliefs in-not-treading-on-me beat their chests about how military and freedom-minded they are.

Funny how that worked its way into such a comical but true stereotype.

Gorge, Friday, 10 December 2010 19:32 (thirteen years ago) link

and slightly bigger cameo by charlie daniels.

fact checking cuz, Friday, 10 December 2010 19:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Never heard of Belmont University, a Christian School in Nashville, until five days ago, when it became news that the soccer coach, a lesbian, had been forced out after telling the team that she and her girlfriend were going to have a baby. (Apparently she'd asked the administration in advance for permission to tell the team, since she knew the fact would come out eventually, and she wanted the team to hear it from her. When the news was abroad without her getting permission, she went ahead and told the team anyway, she says. My info here is from the Nashville Tennessean.) The soccer team has protested her being driven away; so has the faculty senate. And so has a very prominent donor, one who has an event center and a music business school on campus named after him. He's publicly told the administration to "act like Christians" and rehire her. The donor's name: Mike Curb.

Never knew much about him; did recall that he's LeAnn's and lots of other people's label boss and that he had a reactive cleancut image in the hairy Sixties and took anti-drug stances that included dropping the Velvet Underground when he was with MGM Records. Apparently his support for gay rights has been longstanding; at least, as an ultimately successful Republican candidate for lieutenant governor of California in the late '70s, he opposed an initiative to ban gays from teaching in California public schools. In a letter to Belmont's faculty senate, he wrote, "Belmont's Curb College is the largest stand alone music business college in the nation and more than half of Belmont's students study either the music business or music in general. All of us know that there are gay students at Belmont who are also very concerned. When our students enter the workforce, they will be entering an industry where gay people have made incredible contributions."

Frank Kogan, Sunday, 12 December 2010 02:42 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.mikecurb.com/about/bio.cfm

Hah -- he actually wrote "Burning Bridges," the theme to Kelly's Heroes. I always liked that tune.

According to this he's quite the philanthropist.

Gorge, Sunday, 12 December 2010 16:34 (thirteen years ago) link

I usually see Belmont's annual Christmas special, with choir, chorus, guest stars some years; also orchestra, with subsection string band students doing Southern traditional seasonal music, overall pretty good variety, in decorous way. Didn't get that they were a Christian university, hope this all gets straightened out, although a legal settlement is prob the best she can hope for. Didn't mean some "random track" xhuxx, just the ones that matter, esp re singling out keepers from dud-heavy albums. Also, sure do hear a lot of albums that would make good EPs this year, and an actual EP or two may well make my country albums list, as they certainly will appear on my P&J.

dow, Monday, 13 December 2010 03:05 (thirteen years ago) link

She resigned under pressure, which means she probably wouldn't get anything from a lawsuit; but the issue is now political rather than legal. I think the faculty vote to have her reinstated was unanimous. But maybe she doesn't want to go back if it's under the same supervision.

Frank Kogan, Monday, 13 December 2010 16:35 (thirteen years ago) link

"Sandman" would make my top ten if it were a single (or a track that was getting some sort of significant push or attention, which it's not, unfortunately, except from us). If my country ballot were due today this is what singles and albums would look like.

SINGLES
1. Little Big Town "Little White Church"
2. Sunny Sweeney "From A Table Away"
3. Martina McBride "Wrong Baby Wrong Baby Wrong"
4. Trace Adkins "Ala-Freakin-Bama"
5. Laura Bell Bundy "Giddy On Up"
6. Stealing Angels "He Better Be Dead"
7. Sarah Darling "Whenever It Rains"
8. Miranda Lambert "Only Prettier"
9. Brad Paisley "Water"
10. Sarah Darling "With Or Without You"

Still debating the order of the first two, and the last several could easily be replaced by any of the following (esp. since I consider Sarah Darling a bit too wet, and not just because she comes right after "Water"): Miranda Lambert "The House That Built Me," Kenny Chesney "Ain't Back Yet," Jerrod Niemann "Lover, Lover," Martin Ramey "Twisted," Jake Owen "Tell Me," Kenny Chesney "Somewhere With You," Jaron And The Long Road To Love "Pray For You," Randy Montana "Ain't Much Left Of Lovin' You," Eric Church "Smoke A Little Smoke," Luke Bryan "Someone Else Calling You Baby," Gretchen Wilson "I Got Your Country Right Here," Los Lobos "Burn It Down," Blaine Larsen "Leavin'," Dierks Bentley "Draw Me A Map," Tim McGraw "Felt Good On My Lips," Toby Keith "Bullets In The Gun," Taylor Swift "Speak Now," Taylor Swift "Mean," The Band Perry "If I Die Young," Jason Aldean ft. Kelly Clarkson "Don't You Wanna Stay," and presumably a bunch of others that I might run into in the next three weeks - though I'm not feeling the need to search too hard, as I'm fine with my choices already. Albums are a different story.

ALBUMS
1. Taylor Swift Speak Now
2. Chely Wright Lifted Off The Ground
3. Mumford & Sons, Laura Marling, Dharohar Project Mumford & Sons, Laura Marling, Dharohar Project (EP)
4. Flynnville Train Redemption

Pending: Kenny Chesney, Jamey Johnson, and beyond that I need your suggestions, though from upthread I gather that Jerrod Niemann and Laura Bell Bundy are worth some listens. Would like to get Redemption off the list, actually. Its other standout track is "Friend Of Sinners," an effectively evocative plea for redemption. Interesting that the Flynnvillers rock and evoke the shit out of lame-ass "Sandman" but fall short on their outfront rockers: rock 'em nicely, but need singing that's either tougher or more desperate than they can manage. I do recommend "Home," "Preachin' To The Choir," and "Scratch Me Where I'm Itchin'" and think most of the rest are good songs that needed more from the frontman.

Frank Kogan, Monday, 13 December 2010 17:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Geoffrey doesn't count EPs, but not for the first time I'm ignoring his instructions. I generally had a negative impression of Mumford & Sons - the singer's a strained and emphatic folkie in a way I find irritating. But a friend was giving me a lift a few weeks ago, and her teenage son was in the back enthusiastically singing along, knowing almost all the words, as Mumford & Sons played in the deck. He said, "They're really depressing, but in a way that's uplifting." That incident didn't turn me around, but it did get me to check further, which is how I uncovered the EP. The Mumford song and the Marling song are carried into new territory by India Indians who add their own fierce warbles and instrumentation, with the Mumford picking and strumming driving things right along. Actually, it's the Mumford and Marling compositions that lead the charge here.

Frank Kogan, Monday, 13 December 2010 17:36 (thirteen years ago) link

This is almost definitely my NashScene singles and albums ballot. Think Flynnville is solider (and their singer more effective) than Frank does, though agree "Friend Of Sinnners" is the second-best (not to mention second-most rocking) track. Pretty sure I wrote about some of the other songs either upthread, or on Rolling Hard Rock, or both. (Also, I was surprised to like the Mumford/Marling/ Dharohar song that Frank put on his most recent mix CD, though I haven't liked anything I've heard by Marling or the Mumfords individually. Though Marling also makes an appearance on this year's album by Johnny Flynn, which I thought was pretty good.) Anyway:

TOP TEN COUNTRY ALBUMS OF 2010: (first five will almost definitely also make my Pazzz & Jop ballot)

1. Taylor Swift – Speak Now (Big Machine)
2. Jace Everett – Red Revelations (Western Boys/Hump Head)
3. Jamey Johnson – The Guitar Song (Mercury)
4. Flynnville Train – Redemption (Evolution)
5. Chely Wright – Lifted Off The Ground (Vanguard)
6. Laura Bell Bundy – Achin’ & Shakin’ (Mercury)
7. Lee Brice – Love Like Crazy (Curb)
8. Colt Ford – Chicken And Biscuits (Average Joe’s)
9. Kenny Chesney – Hemingway's Whiskey (BNA)
10. Jerrod Niemann – Judge Jerrod And The Hung Jury (Sea Gayle/Arista Nashville)

TOP TEN COUNTRY SINGLES OF 2010: (first three will almost definitely also make my Pazz & Jop ballot):

1. Sunny Sweeney – From a Table Away
2. Mallary Hope – Blossom In The Dust
3. Laura Bell Bundy – Giddy On Up
4. Kenny Chesney – Somewhere With You
5. Lady Antebellum – Stars Tonight
6. Eric Church – Smoke A Little Smoke
7. Martina McBride – Wrong Baby Wrong
8. Stealing Angels – He Better Be Dead
9. Little Big Town – Little White Church
10. Kevin Fowler – Pound Sign (#?*!)

xhuxk, Monday, 13 December 2010 17:49 (thirteen years ago) link

My next seven country albums after those would look like something like this (could make the list even longer, but I'd say after these ones, things get pretty marginal, if they aren't already):

11. Shinyribs – Well After Awhile (Nine Mile)
12. Ray Wylie Hubbard – A. Enlightenment B. Endarkment (Hint: There Is No C) (Thirty Tigers/Bordello)
13. Trace Adkins – Cowboy’s Back In Town (Universal)
14. Merle Haggard - I Am What I Am (Vanguard)
15. Stone River Boys – Love On The Dial (Cow Island)
16. Randy Houser – They Call Me Cadillac (Show Dog)
17. Elizabeth Cook – Welder (Thirty Tigers)

xhuxk, Monday, 13 December 2010 17:58 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm still sorting out my final NS ballot, but does anyone have any recommendations for reissues? I typically try to stay on top of those, but that's my biggest blind spot for the year, outside of the Hank Williams Mother's Best set.

jon_oh, Monday, 13 December 2010 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link

My probable reissue ballot looks pretty ridiculous. I almost considered just pissing in the wind with five old vinyl country albums that I bought for $1 this year, but right now I'm leaning toward something like this:

TOP FIVE COUNTRY REISSUES OF 2010:
1. (Various) – Fire In My Bones: Raw + Rare + Otherworldly African-American Gospel [1944-2007] (Tompkins Square)
2. Slim Cessna’s Auto Club – Buried Behind The Barn (Alternative Tentacles)
3. Ashley Hutchings, Richard Thompson, Dave Mattacks, John Kirkpatrick, Barry Dransfield – Morris On (Fledg’ling)
4. (Various) – Classic Appalachian Blues (Smithsonian Folkways)
5. Jeff Eubank – A Street Called Straight (Drag City)

And oh yeah, I once again disqualified sundry 2010 Southern Soul (i.e., Luther Lackey, who'll make my Pazz & Jop albums ballot), regional Mexican (i.e., Intocable, who'll make my Pazz & Jop singles ballot), and white guiar blues (i.e., Tim Woods) records from Nashville Scene ballot consideration, though in a slow year (see: my reissues list), I might well have decided otherwise.

xhuxk, Monday, 13 December 2010 18:08 (thirteen years ago) link

I've been on something of a country / acoustic blues kick this year-- thanks, at least in part, to the Ray Wylie Hubbard album that I have in my top 10-- so 4. (Various) – Classic Appalachian Blues (Smithsonian Folkways) caught my attention. What's on that one?

jon_oh, Monday, 13 December 2010 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link

I think Tim McGraw's Number One Hits might make my reissues, although I def agree with xxuxk's Rolling Stone review, linked upthread, that reaching Number One sometimes shears off too many possibilities. I prefer Elvis's collected Top Tens to his Number Ones, and it may be that if you get however many volumes of Greatest Hits McG is up to now, you'll do better than with this, but I do enjoy most of it. The MSN Listening Booth download may have jumbled the intended order of tracks, judging by the way they're listed by xxhuk's review, so I got clobbered by front-loaded "live Like You Were Dying" (in a real expensive way, although the dying one's parting words are "I hope one day you can do this too" yeah bro, um got some gold buried at the ol swimmin hole,mebbe?) and "Don't Take My Girl" and some other stuff that would be much more digestible with music that conveyed the urgent neeeed for such soothing. But we do get just that on many other tracks, where he gets more into the struggle for balance, perspective, but also self-justification, as in "Angry All The Time", and just trying to sing his way through all that shit, all those talking points, on "Please Remember Me." But I like some of the suave ballads and def the yee-haw stuff too, where he gives his band and his own light touch (unusual with the yee-haw, Brad Paisley aside) some tonic.

dow, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 00:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Also for reissues: Granma's or Grandma's Roadhouse, mainly cos I'm a sucker for sustain, and Gary Stewart's got it here ( sort of the same feel as CCR's version of "Suzie Q"), but also some okay songwriting, main limitation is that other guy's squeezebox vocals; if Gary got to sing lead, oh maiiiinn.. And Hamper McBee's The Good Old-Fashioned Way. Supposedly his authentic moonshine-cured vocal delivery was "revelatory" to folkies in the mid-60s, but these late 70s field recordings are mostly down to his good taste in choice of deep folk standards, plus he does feel 'em, and deftly rolls notes through the gaps in his teeth, and he does have some I haven't heard, and he's got good bad taste, or rather good no taste, in his anecdotal outbursts, also some x-rated songs, which are themselves quite prob deep folk standards to those who truly know, like hee-um. They really fit, and extend the canon (also the cannon, he's prob add) in a cheering way, at least to me.

dow, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 00:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Wondering if anyone else has been listening to the Loretta Lynn tribute album as much as I have. There's some absolute star power on there (Carrie Underwood and Faith Hill absolutely nail their tracks), but it's balanced nicely with some more 'alternative' picks (the White Stripes, Lucinda Williams, and Steve Earle & Allison Moorer).

My favorite by far is Alan Jackson & Martina McBride doing "Louisiana Woman, Mississippi Man," but Paramore's take on "You Ain't Woman Enough" isn't far behind. I've been a huge Haley Williams fan since Riot! and this just proves the girl's got some of the best pipes going.

Only track not up to par is Kid Rock's, and that wasn't much of a surprise.

Indexed, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 04:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Jon_Oh, here is my review of that Appalachian blues reissue CD (scroll up for the actual track listing):

http://www.rhapsody.com/album/classic-appalachian-blues-from-smithsonian-folkways-2?artistId=42653#albumreview

And here is something much, much longer, where I compare Taylor Swift and Ke$ha:

http://blog.rhapsody.com/2010/12/taylorkesha.html

And here is my review of Kid Rock's new album that I wrote for Spin, which for some reason wound up in the magazine in slightly edited form (the version below is pre-edit), but never seems to have wound up on their website:

Kid Rock
Born Free
Atlantic

History has proven writing off Kid Rock imprudent – His albums always seem to mosey out the gate, but then months later get jumpstarted when some midwestern country station picks up the fourth single. Next thing you know, he's moved another three million units. His new Born Free already has Big Event written all over it: Rick Rubin production, Martina McBride and T.I. swapping spit on the noncommittally pandering protest "Care," Bob Seger tinkling keys behind Sheryl Crow on the "Picture" redux "Collide," Nashville musclemen and adult-alternative musos lending more hands. Chances are, not even Kid's clunkiest similes and unfunkiest drums ever will stem the demographic outreach.

Michigan, as always, will love it – In the longest of several longish songs, Kid references both Seger's "Against The Wind" and John Rich's "Shuttin' Detroit Down" as he unspecifically cheers the Motor City's resilience. But though Born Free 's dusky highway choogle provides plenty of wind-in-the-hair nostalgia for middle-aged Sons of Anarchy, it lacks jokes and raunch. And while the guitars unfurl, they never crunch, unless "God Bless Saturday"'s blue-collar BTO-lite counts. Plus, strained Neil-Young-cum-blue-eyed-soul falsettos probably aren't the best solution to Bob Ritchie's bark feeling more painful as he pushes 40. That said, he's never let his vocal limitations get in the way before. By next summer, he may well have manipulated more megaplatinum out of his fedora.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 19:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Said nice things about Kenny Chesney's "Somewhere With You" over on my lj:

Kenny Chesney "Somewhere With You": Soul-jazz chords at the start, Kenny sounding just as comfortable with smoky longing as he normally does at the beach. Thanks for saving the week, Kenny. TICK.

(The week needed saving from the Glee Cast and Coldplay.)

Also, apparently Martina or someone shortened the title but not the song when they released "Wrong Baby Wrong Baby Wrong" as a single; for no good reason I want to list it by its full title on my ballot. Assume that won't hurt its small chance of making the top tracks, as the Country Critics Poll is small enough that Geoffrey will figure out to add up the votes to each.

Frank Kogan, Thursday, 16 December 2010 00:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Musically, and in terms of singles-worthiness, I like "Care" and "Collide" pretty well; "Rock On" is the most affecting. Speaking of Mumford, Frank, here's my show preview & take on their album, though it's mostly a matter of art appreciation (but as such, and though it takes some repeated listening the album holds up, while def taking me from my rut of preferred listening):

"Tremble, little lion man /Your boldness stands alone/Among the wreck." Drawing on their reputation for poetically rowdy shows, UK folk-rockers Mumford and Sons' "Little Lion Man" is a shrewd point of risky departure for their debut album, "Sigh No More." The little penitent waits for musical shots of tough love's grace. He gets enough to break away, through rising cycles of obsessive drama. These can turn bleak; that's the risk. But the little immigrant does a "Dustbowl Dance" while hometown love and war renew their vows.

dow, Thursday, 16 December 2010 04:17 (thirteen years ago) link

And while I'm at it, here's Marling too (haven't heard the EP, they might well be at their best there, esp, since this seems like a year for EPs, intended and in albums that require and reward cherry-picking):

At 17, British singer-songwriter Laura Marling released "Alas, I Cannot Swim," powered by a teenage appetite for folk-flavored melodrama and mischief. If your castle explodes, it might be justice, or just because. Marling's new "I Speak Because I Can" conjures with spontaneity, stagecraft, complex subtexts and direct address. Concerning her banished lord of disorder, she confides, "We write, that's all right/I miss his smell." Sounds promising. Ditto when Marling, now 20, also muses, "I wouldn't want to ruin something that I couldn't save." Let's hold her to it.

dow, Thursday, 16 December 2010 04:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Nashville Scene ballot looking like this I think -

TOP TEN COUNTRY ALBUMS OF 2010:

1. Jamey Johnson - The Guitar Song
2. Taylor Swift - Speak Now
3. Laura Bell Bundy - Achin' and Shakin'
4. Keith Urban - Get Closer
5. Little Big Town - The Reason Why
6. Alan Jackson - Freight Train
7. Reba McEntire - All the Women I Am
8. Kenny Chesney - Hemmingway's Whiskey
9. Easton Corbin - Easton Corbin
10. Merle Haggard - I Am What I Am

TOP TEN COUNTRY SINGLES OF 2010:

1. Taylor Swift - Mine
2. Jamey Johnson - Playing the Part
3. Kenny Chesney - Somewhere With You
4. Martina McBride - Wrong Baby Wrong Baby Wrong
5. Brad Paisley - Water
6. Trace Adkins - This Ain't No Love Song
7. Tim McGraw - Still
8. Laura Bell Bundy - Drop On By
9. Sunny Sweeney - From a Table Away
10. Toby Keith - Bullets in the Gun

erasingclouds, Monday, 20 December 2010 15:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Looks good erasing. Anybody heard the True Blood soundtrack? I got a press release about a show in the Louisiana cafe where the show is filmed, featuring Jace Everett, C. C. Adcock, a bunch of other contributors, maybe all of em. Thanx to xhuxk for linking stream of Jace Everett's Red Revelations upthread. Also wondering about True Grit soundtrack (seen a couple good reviews already, but no mention of music. Apparently it's closer to the book; a good piece on the suthor, Charles Portis, in recent NYTimes: a truly deadpan comic novelist, it sez, unlike most, who signal when they're trying to be funny, but also blends the seriously serious into the comments of unwittingly amusing characters, True Grit a bit more shadowed than his others, apparently)

dow, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 02:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Yo Indexed, speaking of the Loretta Lynn tribute, here's xgau, with good excerpts of tracks in the podcast:
http://www.npr.org/2010/12/22/132206305/singers-have-a-ball-on-album-dedicated-to-honky-tonk-girl-loretta-lynn

dow, Thursday, 23 December 2010 00:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Rolling Country 2011

xhuxk, Monday, 3 January 2011 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link


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