letz talk abt gucci mane

My similar voters (a wicked cool feature, by the way):

0.479 Josh Love
0.458 Alex Macpherson
0.415 Daniel Kreps
0.415 Sam Hockley-Smith
0.394 Brandon Soderberg
0.394 Julianne Escobedo Shepherd
0.380 Thomas Inskeep
0.380 Tom Ewing
0.379 Andrew Casillas
0.379 Tal Rosenberg

Also, I'm still kind of shocked "Empire State of Mind" WON THE SINGLES POLL. WTF.

At least "My Girls" didn't win, which was my fear.

yeah, i'll drink to that

"Royal Flush" came out at the beginning of the year and ppl had time to forget about it. Also "Shine Blockas" is a better song even if it doesn't have any rapping as good as Rae's verse from "Royal Flush".

I thought "Royal Flush" technically was "released" in 2008, i.e. was leaked to the internets then?

it was -- i think the 12" actually dropped in 08

yeah-- i'm not saying that people should've been voting for it this year (or even at all)-- but that both "royal flush" and "shine blockas" garnered immediate OMFG reactions & i'm just puzzled that "shine blockas" actually kept it going to the point that it became so critically acclaimed in polls like this with pretty much 0 promotion. i think big boi made a video in reaction to it.

i think his song with too short from this year is way better regardless

naw, I meant "Royal Flush" was released early in 08

fukkin Michael Azerrad voted for shine blockas. that says all you need to know

who is that

http://a4.vox.com/6a00cdf3a0e976cb8f011015f6151c860b-500pi

it doesnt help that tim didnt do a ballot this year!! lol

Sorry Deej i forgot about it and then missed the deadline. FTR though I might not have ended up voting for Burrrprint 3D in my top 10 - it usually comes in around 10 or 11 on my list from memory.

Deej I love that you voted for that Sneaky Sound System remix.

haha well someone had to

i'm confused about "shine blockas" too, i mean i really like it but...not the best of anything.

between that list & the electrik red one it's like 40% ilx, 50% my aim buddy list & 10% people who read so many shrimp

it's sort of depressing how small an impact our obvious consensus picks really have

also "soldier" is amazing

i dunno, lex, the consensus around the-dream seems pretty ilm-spawned, it just took a couple years to mushroom outwards. that does point to ilm-consensus as being slower to penetrate the larger crit-world than, say, p4k-consensus, but duh a lot more people read pitchfork than read ilm

ppl hate azzerad? cuz i fuckin' love that book, super inspiring stories in there.

no but who thinks he identifies great rap singles

shine blockas rox u r all gay

i dunno, lex, the consensus around the-dream seems pretty ilm-spawned, it just took a couple years to mushroom outwards. that does point to ilm-consensus as being slower to penetrate the larger crit-world than, say, p4k-consensus, but duh a lot more people read pitchfork than read ilm

― i'd look psychotic in a baklava (The Reverend), Wednesday, January 20, 2010 4:57 PM (50 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i remain v skeptical about The-Dream hype being ilm-spawned -- basically he triangulates a lot of things (moderately popular as an artist but big time producer/writer, weird/bad singing voice, idiosyncratic auteur vibe, multi-song suites and concept-y albums) that were always going to mark him as way more indie/critic-friendly than the overwhelming majority of mainstream R&B.

its not ilm spawned ilm were just early adapters (well the 8 of us who paid attention to him around the 1st album anyway)

his 1st album was a sleeper hit as much commercially as it was critically, but please, continue back-patting

"i helped shape the critical consensus on the-dream and all i got was this lousy t-shirt"

Yeah, I just think a lot of the people who weren't paying attention the first time around and then did pick up on the 2nd album wouldn't have done so if we hadn't gotten the ball rolling on him critically. I mean, if it can all be boiled down to who The-Dream is and what he does, then why only the new album and not Love/Hate? I think the answer is obvious: critical momentum.

xp: I'm not trying to be all I/we were there first. I'm just observing, not taking credit.

im not sure what your point is -- lots of 'just folks' were sleeping on him too? so we werent even taking our cues from what was popular -- *pats self on the back more*

xps to al

the first album sold more and had more hits!

it's kinda weird that the first album got slept on to the extent it did, given the magnitude of the hits he'd written

rev the ball was kinda rolling on him critically with or without ilm, imo. there were ppl into him outside of this sphere as well

fair, I just didn't see it at the time (which could be a sign of my own myopia, sure), whereas when LvM came out it all of a sudden plaudits all over the place, 4.5 stars in RS, etc

fwiw:

Jonathan Bradley
David Drake
Tim Finney
Rob Harvilla
Andy Kellman
Tal Rosenberg
Alfred Soto
Kye Stephenson

Moving away from Terius for just a moment, only three voters for Ryan Leslie, one of which was me:

Brandon Soderberg
Ian Steaman
Renato Pagnani

Very disappointing.

i voted for 'transition'

it's kinda weird that the first album got slept on to the extent it did, given the magnitude of the hits he'd written

― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:22 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

well, Love/Hate dropped like 6 months after "Umbrella" hit, and virtually every other major hit he's had besides "Bed" has been since then -- it's not like Ne-Yo's first album coming a solid year and a half after "Let Me Love You' or something, The-Dream jumped from writer of hit songs to major label artist pretty much overnight.

anyway that first album got tons of positive and sometimes rave reviews in Rolling Stone, NYT, Vibe, Entertainment Weekly, Pop Matters, etc. upon its initial release, way before he was an 'ILM favorite.'

yeahm the whole ILM embrace of the dream seemed like it came somewhere after poptimist major mag coverage, but before the dribbles of alt adoption

aight, point conceded

that all bypassed me and I never saw it later, so I just didn't know

Oh, deej, you're D4v1d Dr4ke? Makes sense now.

who

D@v1d "Aubrey Graham" Dr@ke

resident of sage francis's nuts

Davey Drako

LOL why did it change the vowels of his name into numbers? (I'm new here if you can't tell.)

And no? Yes? I'm confused now.

one of the moderators is google-proofing the real names of posters

we should have a spartacus moment right now

love the dr@ke

<3 dr@k3's c0ff33 c@k3

Surprisingly, the confusion has not lessened.