I HATE APPLE

"The only thing that kept people from getting Macs before is that they thought it was expensive and you couldn’t do some Windows programs on them," Snorek said. "But they’ve taken down all those barriers, and that’s why you’ve seen it take off."

Well, ONE of those claims is true.

Actually, the second one isn't entirely true: you can run all Windows programs on your Mac if you have a Mac w/Windows & OSX.

If someone hadn't given me a G4, I probably would not own a Mac. But if someone hadn't given me a G4, I'd probably still be writing papers in Notepad I had on the 386 I owned before the G4.

It's more that PC prices are rising, not that Apple's are falling. A computer that runs Vista effectively is not going to run you much less than a comparable Mac.

Fuckin' Vista.

here's a very stupid question: i'm using a program that has a shortcut which is listed as ^⌘n. what key is the '^' referring to?!

shift?

ctrl

ctrl! i would have sworn i'd tried that unsuccessfully, but it works now. thanks!

i'm so awesome!

I just bought my first mac yesterday - an imac.

It looks beautiful, but I'm not finding it that intuitive so far. In particular, what is going on when i download a programme e.g. firefox for macs? I get two icons on the desktop? And when it try to delete one - it says 'eject firefox?"

One is the disk image and the other is the virtual 'disk' that ha mounted on this system to delete, first eject the virtual disk and delete the .dmg file.

How to make Leopard less smug

the best takedown is here

http://arstechnica.com/reviews/os/mac-os-x-10-5.ars/1

no blind spots in leopard's eyes

can only help to jeopardize

the lives of lambs that shape the grass

haha sorry, that wz fairly unforgivable

i laughed :)

So can we talk about Leopard? Anyone? Anyone?

Is anyone else getting mad crashes since the installed it? I didn't have a single crash, ever, before I put Leopard on my MPB.

Ok, here's my take:

The new dock is pretty silly. About ten seconds of visual wow, and then the "ok wait, this is pretty silly" sets in. "Stacks" are no more useful than having aliases on your desktop. Hey look, a leaning tower of documents! The default dock at the bottom is pretty much a disaster -- too shiny, too indistinct, too much and too little at the same time. Real crap. But -- here's the upside -- the dock as it is on the left or right is (I think) actually *better* looking and clearer then in Tiger. And having your dock at the bottom is just bad screen space management anyway, so I'm not hurt by that particular flub at all.

The new stuff in iChat is pretty cool, I gotta say. Also, I have yet to find a practical use for any of it. There's this: tabbed chat window, multiple logins -- you know, stuff that Adium already does. Yay Apple for catching up! (I still use Adium.)

Time Machine: yes. A++, would back up again.

Mail pretty much rocks. I'll be setting it up later today and forgetting Entourage ever happened, God willing. The included HTML templates are gosh-awful, of course, but when I get to creating my own templates I may actually have a use for this very mom-style feature.

The file sharing options are a lovely thing indeed. Thank you thank you for giving me control of what I share at a folder level. Thank you. This makes everything better. No, really. Thanks.

The finder with the "slick scroll" or whatever they call it is nice when you're flipping through photos, which I do a lot of at work, so yay. It would be nice if "quick view" could also see Photoshop, Illustrator, and InDesign documents. Someone write this, plz. The finder as a whole is not really changed much apart from that.

Spaces is just virtual desktops, so it's hard to crap about it, but it works very smoothly -- much moreso than any third-party software I've used. And I swear by virtual desktops at work.

But here's the thing, the big kicker: it's faster. It's more efficient. It's not faster in any souped-up, dumbed-down way, it simply allocates memory better. It's just a bit easier to work with.

Spaces is awesome with drag and drop

Also you can drag into command tab now..

Also Safari 3 is much better

Is anyone else getting mad crashes since the installed it?

Two crashes yesterday as I fiddled around with it, but for reasons that I can't blame the OS for. One was Dreamweaver: I defined a site where the remote directory was the root directory of our entire web server, with dozens of sites in it, and the local directory was also remote, on the network. Dreamweaver will handle that, but not at startup. Totally gags on that site cache.

And the other was Font Book. Need I say more? Actually, I will say more -- without telling Font Book thing one about which fonts I want activated, and with only one huge font folder stuck into the root directory, Font Book still silently finds and activates any fonts I need for docs I am opening. And then it silently closes them. Sweet. My plan is to let it keep doing that little thing, and also keep using FontExplorer for browsing fonts and activating them for my own projects and stuff. I do not ever want to touch Font Book ever again. It's a cranky motherfucker.

Is anyone else getting mad crashes since the installed it? I didn't have a single crash, ever, before I put Leopard on my MPB.

-- antexit, Wednesday, December 5, 2007 10:43 AM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Did you update to 10.5.1? Seems like people had crashes during initial spotlight indexing...

It didn't fuck up my custom apache/php/mysql install. yay!

The file sharing options are a lovely thing indeed. Thank you thank you for giving me control of what I share at a folder level. Thank you. This makes everything better. No, really. Thanks.

i'd like to think the pissy e-mail i sent apple yonks ago saying WHY THE FUCK DO I HAVE TO INSTALL FUCKING SHAREPOINTS IN ORDER TO GET BACK THE KIND OF FUNCTIONALITY I HAD IN 1995, YOU CUNTS might have had a small effect on this "innovation" :)

The Ask A Drunk Board Hates Macs too

explain me why I should start using safari

because firefox has begun to blow so hard it's not worth it any more?

also: inquisitor.

Yeah... I just wiped J.'s computer last night and reinstalled (and upgraded!) OS X, because the whole damn thing was getting squirrelly. I can't prove it in court or anything, but I'm 80% sure that all her problems began with Firefox.

Safari 3 has a wicked fast javascript engine and lacks all the font glitching on Mac that Firefox 2 does. It also has Drosera (w/webkit download) that is not quite as good as Firebug but is good. You probably don't care if you're not a web/javascript developer, though. It's just a really solid browser, now.

Also, Safari is fast and has that web clippings thing to put stuff on the dashboard. I used it for Nietzsche Family Circus on my dashboard.

But yeah, Leopard seemed to take forever to do the first Spotlight index, but after that I've pretty much quit using quicksilver, love the new Mail stuff, and with my dock on the side (like it's always been) it's just as useful as ever. The new Finder, and the way it no longer dies when trying to get to network drives that lost connectivity, is great. It also auto-finds my disk connected to my Airport Extreme!

I used it for Nietzsche Family Circus on my dashboard.

Achewood over here.

Achewood over here.
Heyoooo!

Spotlight has "lost" its fucking index three times for me so far, requiring it to reindex it all. Again.

Spaces is awesome, but I don't like the way it doesn't let you keep "workspaces" like you can with virtual desktops -- it'll pull me back to the screen Safari's on if I hit the dock icon, instead of letting me open another safari window on screen I'm on.

I hate having to manually go in and rm .* on my smartcard to get rid of all the little spotlight shit. that and weird hangups when I leave it downloading something and let it fall asleep. other than that I use OS X for so very little now that I haven't had any issues!

there's some little terminal code thing I saw somewhere to make the dock basically look like the the old dock instead of some 3d diving board thing.

Just realized this thread is where I learned about Font Explorer. I've been a huge fan of it since and have recommended it to all my pals. Place I freelance at still uses Suitcase and it's such a piece of junk. They're testing to move over to Font Agent Pro so they can manage all their fonts from the server or whatever, but Font Explorer is perfectly fine, and I feel good because it's free and I didn't have to get a cracked copy.

Not a single crash since installing Leopard on the release date.

I hate having to manually go in and rm .* on my smartcard to get rid of all the little spotlight shit. that and weird hangups when I leave it downloading something and let it fall asleep. other than that I use OS X for so very little now that I haven't had any issues!

-- El Tomboto, Wednesday, December 5, 2007 12:38 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

man mdutil

thanks!

Wow, here's a favorite feature!

Unzip something in Finder and when its finished the extracted folder is highlighted in Finder! :D

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2070/2087683396_c01b81f63a_b.jpg

s awesome, but I don't like the way it doesn't let you keep "workspaces" like you can with virtual desktops -- it'll pull me back to the screen Safari's on if I hit the dock icon, instead of letting me open another safari window on screen I'm on.

-- stet, Wednesday, December 5, 2007 12:32 PM (43 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

right click on safari in dock, "new window" in context menu!

you just said "right click"

banhammer?

Yeh, that's what I do ... but then if you start a download and the download window is on screen 1, it'll zoom back to that to ask me if I really want to save this dangerous file. I don't think they've thought enough about palettes/secondary windows etc. xpost

what's the trick to make the menu bar solid again?

here ya go, stet. I posted this on the apple lust objects thread where there was also some bitching about the new crap look of the dock.

http://lime.quickshareit.com/share/picture1d2a37.png

having your dock at the bottom is just bad screen space management anyway

Why?

There's less vertical resolution, so you're more likely to use that real estate than the full 1400-1900 horizontal pixels?

^^ smart

explain me why I should start using safari

-- kenan, Wednesday, December 5, 2007 4:33 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

because firefox has begun to blow so hard it's not worth it any more?

-- grimly fiendish, Wednesday, December 5, 2007 4:49 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

www.caminobrowser.org

youknowsit

What's wrong with Firefox?

There's less vertical resolution, so you're more likely to use that real estate than the full 1400-1900 horizontal pixels?

But it's invisible unless I need it.

I swear I'm not trying to be obstinate here. The "I HATE APPLE" thread is simply not the place for that.