Erykah Badu: C /D, S&D

I know people who still refuse to listen to Badu for her plagarism of the Mizells on the last couple albums.

well, maybe not "refuse to listen," but bring it up every time they do

They might not make it past the first track of this one if they have the RAMP album.

yeah, there is that too, but i just thought of that track as a call-to-arms-cum-fakeout ... wonder if part two will open with it as well.

yeah yeah, wave of hand.

This is great.

Eric H it sounds like you need some new friends.

Clearly I made those friends up.

what do u dudes think this album will sell

Well, Clive Davis will not hear a single, that's for damn sure.

I haven't checked to see how well "Honey" is doing.

I'm awful fond of the reading of the Peter Finch "mad as hell" speech from Network.

I'm buying two tomorrow! Just kidding, but I am buying one. Erykah is one of those that I actually feel the old fashioned need to support so she stays around.

"They might not make it past the first track of this one if they have the RAMP album.

-- Andy K"

what did they jack from that one for this album?

"american promise"

xpost - "Honey" did pretty good on Urban Adult-Contemporary radio, but outside of that it underperformed.. I don't think this will sell huge numbers but, much like Jill Scott, Erykah has a pretty solid fanbase so I think she'll do around 150K first week and go at least gold.

plus, they're really promoting this - i've seen a few commercials, they have a starbucks tie-in, etc. it'll do respectably.

how much of the mizell's did she "plagiarize"? besides johnny hammond smith. and she covered Think Twice, right? did these fake friends never listen to tribe, black moon, main source?

I think both "Booty" and "Time's A Wastin," right?

Personally, I don't find it altogether problematic, and my imaginary friends and I aren't really on speaking terms anymore.

can't wait to hear this!

xpost - i kind of hate sa ra too. never added up to much apart from one or two songs and great interview quotes.

The Cell is so amazing.

See...this record is the bizness. The slurry almost-Theo Parrish production on "Twinkle" is killing me. And Badu is still on another brain plane lyrically. This is great.

It sounds like Pino Palladino playing on "The Cell." The bass is what makes the song....

Yeah serious album of the decade potential.

MOVE OVER BIG & RICH

i came home a little drunk from a show last night and apparently i itunes'd this.

is that roy hargrove on 'me'?

hell yeah that's roy hargrove

also the bass player all over this thing is my new favorite bass player, with an appropriately awesome name: Stephen "Thunder Cat" Bruner!

is the opening track an old roy ayers track, or a new roy ayers production? it sounds antique, in the best way.

Bruner even plays on "The Cell"? Sounds so much like Pino....

"is the opening track an old roy ayers track, or a new roy ayers production?"

its a sample from a roy ayers produced group called RAMP.

is that one of the sa-ra guys on amerykahn promise pretending to be dr funkenstein?

xpost - "Honey" did pretty good on Urban Adult-Contemporary radio, but outside of that it underperformed

It's still climbing, albeit very slowly (#29 now, #30 last week, #32 the week before that), on the R&B/Hip-Hop chart.

which tracks did sa-ra produce, anyway?

3 - Shafiq Husayn
6 - Shafiq Husayn, Erykah Badu
7 - Taz Arnold, Shafiq Husayn, Erykah Badu, Mike Chavarria
8 - Shafiq Husayn
9 - Erykah Badu, Om'Mas Keith, Shafiq Husayn

(Husayn, Arnold, Keith = Sa-Ra)

"is the opening track an old roy ayers track, or a new roy ayers production?"

its a sample from a roy ayers produced group called RAMP.

-- titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, February 26, 2008 5:08 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Hehe -- yeah, basically some voices over the WHOLE of "The American Promise." The RAMP album (which is so much more than "Daylight," "Everybody Loves the Sunshine") was reissued in the States last year by Verve and is very cheap.

Apparently I like Sa-Ra alot, since I think the album's B-side is the stronger one.

But, man, is it all good.

Oh, and Roy Ayers, Edwin Birdsong and William Allen are all credited as producers/writers on track one.

sa-ra just have the worst vocals ever on their own material. which is why it sucks so bad a lot of the time. they should stick to producing for other people, like erykah or bilal or whoever and STFU or just make instrumentals. then again i find a lot of their own stuff derivative or just too 'soft' anyway.

im sure roy doesnt mind - he was on mamas gun anyway.

the sa-ra hate is retarded. vocals are so rad. unfortunately the album the eventually released sucked. singles and weird shit that was passed around on cdr for years before album is mindblowing.

Telephone is a eulogy to dillah. especially apparent w/the sirens he used all over donuts. also love the fact that she redid one of my favorite songs - eddie kendricks "my people" also used on donuts.

Cover reminds me of The O'Jays' SURVIVAL.

I would really like to hear Erykah Badu cover Siouxsie & the Banshees, particularly Tinderbox-era songs.

have to agree w jaxon on sa ra. i obtained said cd-r of sa-ra instrumentals/bsides in 2002, and they were fucking brilliant pieces of synthy/damaged soul hip-hop. at the time everyone was jocking; kanye, common, all wanted a piece of sa-ra production.since then, they've done alot of work, but somehow kind of fizzled in many peoples eyes. some of the remix work is great, some of it's not so great. that album they released later on ubiquity is aight but nothing near the expectations people had after all those tracks that were passed around. the work they did on this badu record i have to say though is pretty amazing.

I rather like Dan's idea.

I love Karriem Riggins (even though his track here isn't one of the flashier ones).

sick
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55Lf1wMylIE

couple tracks in so far, feeling it.