― Kim, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― jess, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Trevor, Tuesday, 11 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― maura (maura), Monday, 23 September 2002 16:07 (twenty-one years ago) link
― mike (ro)bott, Monday, 23 September 2002 16:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
― rosemary (rosemary), Monday, 23 September 2002 16:54 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 05:38 (twenty years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 11:14 (twenty years ago) link
― rosemary (rosemary), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 13:04 (twenty years ago) link
― That Girl (thatgirl), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 13:14 (twenty years ago) link
― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 13:15 (twenty years ago) link
(haha in a later issue they had to correct an error in the chomsky profile viz: 'oops where we quoted [x] as saying "chomsky seemed to have tremendous rage", [x] actually said "range"')
― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 13:17 (twenty years ago) link
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 13:21 (twenty years ago) link
― That Girl (thatgirl), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 13:24 (twenty years ago) link
― NA. (Nick A.), Thursday, 10 July 2003 14:19 (twenty years ago) link
― g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Thursday, 10 July 2003 14:35 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 10 July 2003 14:38 (twenty years ago) link
― g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Thursday, 10 July 2003 14:42 (twenty years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 10 July 2003 14:46 (twenty years ago) link
I love this show so much and only I know the true lyrics to the theme song, because I wrote them but it is a big secret
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Thursday, 10 July 2003 14:50 (twenty years ago) link
― NA. (Nick A.), Thursday, 10 July 2003 15:18 (twenty years ago) link
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Thursday, 10 July 2003 15:19 (twenty years ago) link
I watch this show every time it's on however I'm starting to not see any more reruns that I haven't already seen. :(
I love D'Onfrio. Rosemary knows this. I'd like to do some illegal things to him. . .
― That Girl (thatgirl), Thursday, 10 July 2003 15:21 (twenty years ago) link
Just kidding. I don't hate him that much, just find him mildly annoying.
― NA. (Nick A.), Thursday, 10 July 2003 15:30 (twenty years ago) link
― That Girl (thatgirl), Thursday, 10 July 2003 15:35 (twenty years ago) link
i knew svu sucked a big dick when i noticed they were filming things from outside the perspective of the "law" or "order" peeps...formalism rules u r all gay
― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 10 July 2003 15:53 (twenty years ago) link
First comes the law part,then comes the order part
I mean you can't be changing the show to make it deviate from its theme-song's statement of purpose
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Thursday, 10 July 2003 15:55 (twenty years ago) link
― NA. (Nick A.), Thursday, 10 July 2003 15:56 (twenty years ago) link
*this may in fact be true
― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 10 July 2003 15:57 (twenty years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 10 July 2003 15:59 (twenty years ago) link
― g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Thursday, 10 July 2003 16:17 (twenty years ago) link
see, it's a very complex show.
gff you would be rohm's bitch if she ever asked and you know it.
― Josh (Josh), Thursday, 10 July 2003 19:54 (twenty years ago) link
I like SVU 'cause my house made a guest appearance on it.
― rosemary (rosemary), Thursday, 10 July 2003 23:18 (twenty years ago) link
― g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Thursday, 10 July 2003 23:36 (twenty years ago) link
― Elmo Oxygen (elmo oxygen), Thursday, 10 July 2003 23:59 (twenty years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 11 July 2003 02:11 (twenty years ago) link
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Friday, 11 July 2003 02:18 (twenty years ago) link
i saw the guy who did the seinfeld theme on entertainment tonight once and he was just one guy in a little home studio and he was creepy cuz he reminded me of that creepy mouthsounds guy with the white hair who was big in the 70's on That's Incredible and who now is on a kid's show on PBS. He's even creepier now cuz he's really old and he is still making icky noises with his mouth. That seinfeld guy musta been the mouthsounds guy's biggest fan. the law & order theme rocks cuz it's got funky bass and clarinet action.
― scott seward, Friday, 11 July 2003 02:20 (twenty years ago) link
it's probably good for me to only have access to cable one week every 6 months
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 11 July 2003 02:26 (twenty years ago) link
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Friday, 11 July 2003 02:28 (twenty years ago) link
seriously, two days.
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 11 July 2003 02:30 (twenty years ago) link
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Friday, 11 July 2003 02:34 (twenty years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 11 July 2003 02:40 (twenty years ago) link
i have totally made my summer roommate hooked on law and order -- he is unearthing tivoable episodes that i haven't even seen on my to do list. tivo + law and order triumverate = HOURS AND HOURS SUCKED AWAY. although i do agree about the butcher jobs tnt has done. hey weren't they also supposed to do that advertising-after-the-fact paint-on stuff, like putting diet coke cans in briscoe's hands when they were really parthocups?
today they showed the episode where jerry orbach was the counsel for the defense btw!! & this is still pretty u &k
― maura (maura), Friday, 11 July 2003 04:38 (twenty years ago) link
but i still watch plenty law and order and the one based on Mailer was so tops.
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 11 July 2003 04:43 (twenty years ago) link
― s1utsky (slutsky), Friday, 11 July 2003 05:05 (twenty years ago) link
... no seinfeld though, no night court either. actually it looks like the guy who wrote the theme to night court wrote the theme to, awww yeah, barney miller, aka one of the top ten tv themes of ever (right behind 'good times' and 'taxi' -- one of my favorite nyc moments so far has been driving over the 59th st bridge in a taxi while the theme from taxi was playing on the radio and the sun was just beginning to come up. NEW YORK I LOVE YOU)
also he wrote music for cop rock!!!!!
― maura (maura), Friday, 11 July 2003 05:21 (twenty years ago) link
― s1utsky (slutsky), Friday, 11 July 2003 05:23 (twenty years ago) link
i've been going through season 10 and just hit "mega" which is an outrageously good l&o episode/episode of television
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 21:02 (five years ago) link
michael mckean AND annette o'toole
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 21:04 (five years ago) link
mega is in my top 10
― maura, Thursday, 6 September 2018 15:37 (five years ago) link
does california have more stringent requirements to pass probable cause standards before proceeding to trial? they keep doing separate courtroom scenes for that on LOLA, like it's standard.
― j., Thursday, March 2, 2017 1:10 AM (two years ago)
thanks to the mueller report i now have an answer to my question!!! i think
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_(formal_criminal_charge)
Because the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution expressly creates a constitutional right to be indicted by a grand jury, the information is used in federal criminal procedure only when a defendant voluntarily pleads guilty (often as part of a plea bargain) and waives the right to an indictment.[11]However, the Fifth Amendment right to a grand jury indictment does not apply against the state governments because the grand jury provision has not been incorporated against the states by the Fourteenth Amendment. Thus, the information has always been the dominant charging document in the western states, where extremely dispersed population distribution during the American frontier era made it difficult to select and convene petit juries to hold trials. In that era, convening even larger grand juries just to indict criminals was seen as an unnecessary extravagance.In western states, district attorneys are authorized by statute to charge criminal suspects by filing informations. The defendant is then entitled to challenge the information at a preliminary hearing, during which the prosecution must establish to the judge's satisfaction that probable cause exists to bind over the defendant until trial. The U.S. Supreme Court affirmed the constitutionality of this procedure in Hurtado v. California (1886).The grand jury is still available in the states where informations are used, but it is usually used only for issuing indictments for certain types of crimes or for certain types of anti-corruption investigations.
However, the Fifth Amendment right to a grand jury indictment does not apply against the state governments because the grand jury provision has not been incorporated against the states by the Fourteenth Amendment. Thus, the information has always been the dominant charging document in the western states, where extremely dispersed population distribution during the American frontier era made it difficult to select and convene petit juries to hold trials. In that era, convening even larger grand juries just to indict criminals was seen as an unnecessary extravagance.
In western states, district attorneys are authorized by statute to charge criminal suspects by filing informations. The defendant is then entitled to challenge the information at a preliminary hearing, during which the prosecution must establish to the judge's satisfaction that probable cause exists to bind over the defendant until trial. The U.S. Supreme Court affirmed the constitutionality of this procedure in Hurtado v. California (1886).
The grand jury is still available in the states where informations are used, but it is usually used only for issuing indictments for certain types of crimes or for certain types of anti-corruption investigations.
― j., Thursday, 18 April 2019 22:44 (five years ago) link
Is L&O:LA streaming anywhere? It came about during a rare L&O hiatus in my life
― mh, Friday, 19 April 2019 03:23 (five years ago) link
improbably enough, you can actually see it on nbc.com
― j., Friday, 19 April 2019 04:06 (five years ago) link
panicked teacher: "these are good kids!"briscoe: "so were leopold and loeb"
ok but were they lennie, WERE they?
― mark s, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 18:12 (four years ago) link
been watching the original on my streaming tv subscription because I think it's *still* not streaming anywhere else in the US
once it gets into the groove, the original series has some amazing seasons in the early seasons. Briscoe and Logan might be the prime years?
― mh, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 20:11 (four years ago) link
they never ever seem to repeat S1-5 in the UK*, i've only seen noth in the spin-offs (does he play the same character? i never watch the spin-offs, they're all bad not good)
no moriarty or dzundza or robinette either :(
*i think those series showed on BBC originally, maybe they still have the rights to them
― mark s, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 20:21 (four years ago) link
lol i mean brooks, robinette is the character name
― mark s, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 20:38 (four years ago) link
those are all in the first four years so there's no 'either' about it
logan is the same logan; after the tv movie which is about him trying to solve his way back to manhattan he kicks around a while longer offscreen before solving his way into major cases due to some connection an investigation has to his girlfriend or something
― j., Wednesday, 23 October 2019 20:44 (four years ago) link
either/ˈʌɪðə,ˈiːðə/
CONJUNCTION & ADVERB1: Used before the first of two (or occasionally more) given alternatives (the other being introduced by ‘or’)‘either I accompany you to your room or I wait here’‘available in either black or white’
2: adverb, with negative, used to indicate a similarity or link with a statement just made‘You don't like him, do you? I don't either’‘it won't do any harm, but won't really help either’
― mark s, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 20:58 (four years ago) link
Noth reappears in Criminal Intent much later, but it’s a psychological investigation show with a different tone. I think they bounced around what day/time it was at on broadcast tv then shoved it on to cable. Vincent D’Onofrio (!) and Kathryn Erbe mostly star, although they both get cycled out for reasons. Other leads include Jeff Goldblum and Alicia Witt, which is wild considering they seemed to give the series a lot less consideration compared to other shows
― mh, Thursday, 24 October 2019 01:20 (four years ago) link
mark did you have your name legally changed so the s stands for 'salty'
during noth's run they also started insanely alternating leads and iirc didn't really try that much to make noth's episodes tonally consistent with d'onofrio's schtick
― j., Thursday, 24 October 2019 01:58 (four years ago) link
We bingerewatched CI a while ago and its weird, despite evidence in this very thread that I used to watch it regularly, I did not recall a single episode on rewatch. My brains! :(
(we're now doing OG from season 1, which Id never seen before now. Seems so dated and stiff compared to later stuff)
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 24 October 2019 03:26 (four years ago) link
watched some CI last night and I'd forgotten how all of the criminals come off as vaguely reptilian
― mh, Thursday, 24 October 2019 13:54 (four years ago) link
Many years ago I had a theory about how each L&O had an overriding political philosophy:
L&O - Marxist (poor people are often forced into desperate acts of criminality, but the rich are the true villains)L&O: SVU - Schopenhauer (life is pain)L&O: CI - Nietzsche (some people are smarter than/superior to others, it is up to the superman detective to be smarter than/superior to his criminal adversaries)
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Thursday, 24 October 2019 14:10 (four years ago) link
Ha. I like it!
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 24 October 2019 22:16 (four years ago) link
"i won't have this trial turned into a circus!"
― mark s, Monday, 27 January 2020 18:52 (four years ago) link
"enough of your treacly mea culpas"
― mark s, Tuesday, 3 March 2020 17:44 (four years ago) link
watching season 13 and I've got to say I miss my stabler
― frederik b. godt (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 17:49 (four years ago) link
This is as good a time as any to tell you that my dog sings along to the Law & Order theme song every time he hears it pic.twitter.com/4HNVPWrzmE— Peter Schultz (@pete_schultz) March 19, 2020
― ... (Eazy), Friday, 20 March 2020 04:43 (four years ago) link
lol
― Dan S, Friday, 20 March 2020 04:46 (four years ago) link
https://deadline.com/2020/03/christopher-meloni-returns-new-dick-wolf-series-elliot-stabler-nbc-law-order-svu-1202896323/
Whaaaat
― mh, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 02:43 (four years ago) link
Stoked
― COVID and the Gang (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 02:45 (four years ago) link
"in the process of determining a verdict, lives often hang in the balance"
― mark s, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 14:07 (four years ago) link
comments about how people underestimate how unhinged Stabler was seem to forget the Dick Wolf Chicago shows, where it's revealed that some Good Cops are going to get in trouble because they like to torture people for information and confessions, but their methods got some results
can't speak to the fire and hospital shows attached to that spinoff other than the crossovers because it's obvious they concentrated all the casting and writing on the cop show
― mh, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 14:47 (four years ago) link
Wooo Gary Busey
― où sont les threads d'antan? (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 11:07 (four years ago) link
via voodoo chili, this made me think of maurahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOxAlfvpQmI
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 12 September 2020 17:32 (three years ago) link
i can’t watch this show anymore :( oh well
― maura, Sunday, 13 September 2020 01:15 (three years ago) link
I’m watching it right nowone of the few episodes where Van Buren leaves the office because a case involves someone she knows and she’s just relentless
― mh, Sunday, 13 September 2020 02:40 (three years ago) link
yeah all the stuff this summer just curdled it for me
― maura, Sunday, 13 September 2020 14:09 (three years ago) link
I'm going to sound like I've been living under a rock but what was it specifically that ruined this for you? I feel like we've been living in such a hellscape the past six months anyway
― boxedjoy, Sunday, 13 September 2020 14:29 (three years ago) link
It first aired 30 years ago today.
― Notes on Scampo (tokyo rosemary), Sunday, 13 September 2020 15:06 (three years ago) link
blam blam
― mark s, Sunday, 13 September 2020 16:34 (three years ago) link
More the law than the order I would imagine
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 13 September 2020 19:22 (three years ago) link
Forgive the thread spam, but I wanted to note that L+O: Organized Crime's 2021 season is nominated in the ILX TV poll, with voting ending this weekend:
ILX's Best Television of 2021 Poll / VOTING AND CAMPAIGNING THREAD / Voting Ends After January 31, 2022
If you like this show and you'd like to see it have a good showing in the poll (running in February) all you need to do is submit a ballot including it and your other favorites (3 minimum, 25 maximum, ranked by your favorite to least favorite) to forksclovetofu at gmail. It'll take five minutes; get to it!
― i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 26 January 2022 20:56 (two years ago) link
John Oliver vs Dick Wolf:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNy6F7ZwX8I
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 12 September 2022 19:16 (one year ago) link