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what is holding everything in place, etc.?

umm....the blood of the proletariat? Guns?

giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 2 May 2005 22:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Holy shit their official site is the slowest I've seen in years:
http://www.korea-dpr.com/

But it does have an esperanto section, unlike KFC's.

andy --, Monday, 2 May 2005 22:23 (eighteen years ago) link

I really do think that N. Korea is probably one of those places where it really IS as bad as you might think.

giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 2 May 2005 22:23 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, but we don't know. it's just a black hole. the fact that information is so tightly controlled, and that what does actually get out is so goddamned weird and preposterous, means we're left projecting our own fears and assumptions on them... we don't *really* know what's going.

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 2 May 2005 22:25 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, but we don't know. it's just a black hole. the fact that information is so tightly controlled, and that what does actually get out is so goddamned weird and preposterous, means we're left projecting our own fears and assumptions on them... we don't *really* know what's going on.

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 2 May 2005 22:25 (eighteen years ago) link

asiatimes reported there was a riot at a world cup qualifier recently, the police were powerless. first civil disobedience in decades.

g e o f f (gcannon), Monday, 2 May 2005 22:25 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.korea-dpr.com/index_r1_c1.jpg

Hurting (Hurting), Monday, 2 May 2005 22:27 (eighteen years ago) link

x-post Shaky

Oh absolutely. I still think that--unlike the USSR or China--shit is really, really bad in N. Korea. Someone already linked through this article (the nighttime pic), but it's still worth reading.

giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 2 May 2005 22:28 (eighteen years ago) link

that thing in the new yorker a few weeks back about n. korea kidnapping a director so big kim could make godzilla movies made me fall in love with them all over again

you only just now found out about this, strongo?!?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 2 May 2005 22:29 (eighteen years ago) link

It's funny how we were able to get a rover on Mars before we were able to get a photo of evidence of dissent in North Korea.

donut debonair (donut), Monday, 2 May 2005 22:29 (eighteen years ago) link

haha - that's awesome. Soccer, the people's sport, the great leveller...

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 2 May 2005 22:29 (eighteen years ago) link

An oldie, but a goodie about life on the north side.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 2 May 2005 22:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, didn't some American defector finally leave to South Korea? Like his wife was kidnapped from the South and the North finally granted them permission to emigrate? The US was interested in pressing charges against the guy, but it'd be cool to hear from him how shit really is.

andy --, Monday, 2 May 2005 22:34 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Korea/GD19Dg01.html

g e o f f (gcannon), Monday, 2 May 2005 22:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Does anyone have images of soccer riots?
the written word is a tool of the imperialist wolves, cast it away or the nation shall rot.

g e o f f (gcannon), Monday, 2 May 2005 22:59 (eighteen years ago) link

we don't *really* know what's going on.

i don't think that's *completely* true. a number of journalists have managed to get in and get some information out despite having to be herded around by government "translators."

i sort of imagine there not being any public dissent, at all. as for private dissent, well... i get the sense that the people of north korea have been fed a very strict regimen of limited info for over 50 years and thus don't really have much sense of the outside world, or other ideologies they could counterpose to that of their nation's. so if there is private dissent i'm guessing it takes a weird intra-ideological form that we wouldn't recognize or be very happy with.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 00:35 (eighteen years ago) link

the people of north korea totally need to pitch in and get a new server.

mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 01:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, didn't some American defector finally leave to South Korea? Like his wife was kidnapped from the South and the North finally granted them permission to emigrate? The US was interested in pressing charges against the guy, but it'd be cool to hear from him how shit really is.

He left to Japan. His wife was kidnapped from Japan in the 1970s along with about a dozen others. She came from a town next to the Japan Sea, and she was abducted by North Korean agents and whisked back to North Korea. It's another completely bizarre episode.

The American was in the army serving in South Korea in the 1960s. He claims that he was afraid of being sent to Vietnam, so defected to the North. The U.S. army convicted him of dissertion a few months ago, and he served a very lenient sentence that was like community service.

He did an interview with Japanese TV and described his life in North Korea in general terms. His most memorable quote was saying, "I lived like a dog." He also blasted the North Korean government for all the obvious reasons.

supercub, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 01:19 (eighteen years ago) link

why can I not figure out italics in HTML? Somebody please help me.

supercub, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 01:20 (eighteen years ago) link

it's a tricky one. you have to use i. a good way to remember this is by remembering that the first four letters of 'italics' and 'italy' and interchangeable, and interchangeable starts with i.

mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 01:26 (eighteen years ago) link

like ithis?

supercub, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 01:28 (eighteen years ago) link

hahaha! I'm such an idiot!

supercub, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 01:28 (eighteen years ago) link

iidiot

(ok, I'll stop now)

supercub, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 01:29 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm kind of amazed that you even attempted that.

mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 01:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, so am ii.

supercub, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 01:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Look, I'm smart

supercub, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 01:33 (eighteen years ago) link

There was an in depth article in Harpers a year or two ago worth finding, really brutal eye-opening stuff. And the New Yorker had that segment about the director, but I think there was a more complete article some time ago? One thing I remember reading is that it is of course impossible to stop radio transmissions coming over the border from South Korea, but most North Koreans have been taught that what they are receiving are all lies, capitalist propaganda.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 01:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Actually, although it is impossible to completely stop radio transmissions from South Korea, I believe that all radios sold (legally) in South Korea are required to be specially equipped to receive only the state frequency.

Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 02:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Actually, although it is impossible to completely stop radio transmissions from South Korea, I believe that all radios sold (legally) in North Korea are required to be specially equipped to receive only the state frequency.

Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 02:14 (eighteen years ago) link

It is a great thread title, and another grasshopper thing.

Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 02:33 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1111/is_1830_305/ai_94044069

I assume this is the Harper's piece mentioned upthread. It's a pretty hard read.

Daniel Cohen (dayan), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 08:36 (eighteen years ago) link

five months pass...
http://www.metroblogging.com/NKDelegation2005.swf

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 17:07 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.korea-dpr.com/kfa2006/KFADELEGATION05.wmv also good.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 17:11 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...

http://www.jonhs.net/freemovies/welcome_to_north_korea.htm

This is good - it's from 2001 so some may have already seen it.

Hurting 2, Monday, 16 July 2007 03:33 (sixteen years ago) link

also good:

http://www.yhchang.com/CUNNILINGUS_IN_NORTH_KOREA.html

c sharp major, Monday, 16 July 2007 11:36 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

N. Korea Says It Is Holding Reporters

SEOUL, South Korea — North Korea confirmed Saturday that it had detained two American journalists on charges of “illegally intruding” into the North through its border with China.

The journalists, Laura Ling, a Chinese-American, and Euna Lee, a Korean-American, both working for Current TV, were on a reporting trip along the border when they were detained by North Korean border guards, according to human rights activists and a South Korean news report. Their colleague, Mitch Koss, and their Chinese guide were reported to have been detained by Chinese border guards.

“A competent organ is now investigating the case,” the North’s official news agency, KCNA, said.

skamokawa WA (jergins), Saturday, 21 March 2009 19:30 (fifteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
one month passes...

Getting less hilarious.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8066615.stm

Super Cub, Monday, 25 May 2009 07:49 (fourteen years ago) link

This used to have many good photos, but they've all gone. Can anyone dig it up?

ambience chaser (S-), Monday, 25 May 2009 14:04 (fourteen years ago) link

um this http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=82755

ambience chaser (S-), Monday, 25 May 2009 14:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Good North Korea pictures here:

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/04/peering_into_north_korea.html

I am using your worlds, Monday, 25 May 2009 14:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Uh oh.

They're going to blow the shit of Seoul, aren't they?

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 03:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Isnt it Japan and the US they're shaking their fists at more, though? Bit disconcerting either way I gotta say.

chk chk BOOM! (Trayce), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 04:16 (fourteen years ago) link

North Korea's military says it considers South Korea's participation in a U.S.-led program to intercept ships suspected of spreading weapons of mass destruction tantamount to a declaration of war against the North.

The communist North's military said in a statement Wednesday that it will respond with "immediate, strong military measures" if the South actually stops and searches any North Korean ships under the Proliferation Security Initiative.

The statement, carried by the North's Korean Central News Agency, said North Korea no longer considers itself bound by the armistice that ended the Korean War, as a protest over the South's participation.

South Korea announced its participation in the anti-proliferation program Tuesday, one day after the North conducted a nuclear test.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 04:24 (fourteen years ago) link

ugh.

chk chk BOOM! (Trayce), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 04:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Did anyone see that lolVice TV travelogue thing through N. Korea? It's pretty interesting: http://www.vbs.tv/video.php?id=1438428757

Oym a cripe... Oym a weer-dew... (circa1916), Wednesday, 27 May 2009 04:49 (fourteen years ago) link

A colleague of mine went to North Korea last year. He described it as an unpleasant experience.

Super Cub, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 05:54 (fourteen years ago) link

MOSCOW (Reuters) - A war of nerves over North Korea should not be allowed to grow into a military confrontation, a Russian official said on Wednesday in a clear reference to Pyongyang's decision to drop out of an armistice agreement.

"We assume that a dangerous brinkmanship, a war of nerves, is under way, but it will not grow into a hot war," Itar-Tass news agency quoted an unnamed foreign ministry source as saying.

"Restraint is needed," the source added.

The foreign ministry often uses statements sourced to unnamed officials leaked through official news agencies to lay down its position on sensitive issues.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 08:29 (fourteen years ago) link

This fit crazy pic.twitter.com/FqvBBB57P9

— eĺe💃 (@LesbianDrakeFan) April 16, 2021

too cool for zen talk (Eazy), Saturday, 17 April 2021 01:03 (three years ago) link

No skinny jeans for Kim

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 17 April 2021 10:37 (three years ago) link

that's how you dress when you are a 100pts ahead.

calzino, Saturday, 17 April 2021 11:14 (three years ago) link

That's a solid look I would like to emulate

Call of Scampi: Slack Nephrops (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 April 2021 11:35 (three years ago) link

*takes notes by hand*

yes, JNCOs sir, yes

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Saturday, 17 April 2021 15:39 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

Cool.

This demonstration at the Defence Development Exhibition was bit intense. Video broadcast today on North Korean TV. pic.twitter.com/zehpI6EAEd

— Martyn Williams (@martyn_williams) October 12, 2021

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 16:00 (two years ago) link

So I guess our new intercontinental brick missiles won't have the desired effect

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 16:42 (two years ago) link

You don't go to war with the bricks you want, you go to war with the bricks you have.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 16:44 (two years ago) link

this will hold me over until the new jackass movie comes out

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 17:24 (two years ago) link

Just being the usual wet blanket here, but I don't think the point of that demonstration was that brick-breaking is a useful military skill.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 17:39 (two years ago) link

You're saying you want to fight that guy? If North Korea had a dozen more dudes that tough we might as well just surrender right now.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 17:42 (two years ago) link

you got my point, while missing my point

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 17:45 (two years ago) link

That look from Kim at 0:38: "Tssst, that guy thinks he's so tough... he's not all that."

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 17:46 (two years ago) link

Lol Josh giving Kim exactly the reaction he wants

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 17:59 (two years ago) link

lol that guy going aggro was as choreographed as a Jackie Chan movie. But I do love the idea of Kim thinking anyone would really find that intimidating. Like, oh shit, this guy broke a concrete bar with a flying headbutt! Better not mess with North Korea.

would have been better if it was Kim doing the head butting though.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 18:16 (two years ago) link

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/BareBaggyLiger-max-1mb.gif

Donald Fhtagen (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 19:03 (two years ago) link

imo, the NK military putting on that show in front of Kim was not meant to intimidate SK or the USA nearly so much as to show their dear leader how unflinchingly loyal they are to him. they are saying, "see how we will gladly butt through walls with our foreheads and have rods broken across our backs for you." which explains why Kim was kind of bored by it, since that kind of fealty is demonstrated to him constantly.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 19:22 (two years ago) link

Yet also demanded by him constantly. Be careful what you wish for, I guess!

Donald Fhtagen (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 19:27 (two years ago) link

But I think the display is part of a larger PR campaign about NK's military might.. like all these boss new gadgets:

https://www.reuters.com/news/picture/north-korea-shows-off-new-weapons-at-mil-idUSRTXIGLY4

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 19:32 (two years ago) link

Just wait until North Korea reveals it's got the atomic elbow.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 19:40 (two years ago) link

The way they loop the applause in all these videos is a lot like laying down in glass.

pplains, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 20:04 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxXZF60EPdM
lil palate cleanser

When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Friday, 15 October 2021 21:28 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

this is just bollocks isn't it https://t.co/yDEYlL0LGo

— jamie k (@jkbloodtreasure) November 25, 2021

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 25 November 2021 09:36 (two years ago) link

three months pass...

This looks like an FBI photo of a Serbian gangster outside his stone mason shop in Wicker Park, 1978 @ericzieg https://t.co/Jdwa0D0j8n

— Justin Sherin (@wychstreet) March 10, 2022

deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Thursday, 10 March 2022 21:20 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Surprisingly high production value for NK:

BREAKING: North Korea's state-run television shows edited footage of Kim Jong Un guiding the test-launch of what the country referred to as the Hwasong-17 ICBM.

Latest story: https://t.co/belL7EdPUl
(Video: KCTV) pic.twitter.com/APifRhtJVr

— NK NEWS (@nknewsorg) March 25, 2022

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Friday, 25 March 2022 14:38 (two years ago) link

All I can think of is "Elvis impersonator, with missles"

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Friday, 25 March 2022 14:39 (two years ago) link

The bit with the watches can't be real!

Eyeball Kicks, Friday, 25 March 2022 15:23 (two years ago) link

Well having been extensively exposed to NK video productions when visiting back in 2015 (?), it looks completely legit to me, just with fancier cinematography and better picture quality.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Friday, 25 March 2022 17:57 (two years ago) link

Well having been extensively exposed to NK video productions when visiting back in 2015 (?), it looks completely legit to me, just with fancier cinematography and better picture quality.

I seriously can't stop watching it.

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Friday, 25 March 2022 17:59 (two years ago) link

If they are calling it an ICBM, the implication is that it can reach other continents. I suppose they could be cheating slightly, if it can only reach Australia.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 25 March 2022 18:08 (two years ago) link

NK is quite a bit closer to North America than to Australia, though. "Only" the remoter bits of Alaska, granted.

anatol_merklich, Tuesday, 29 March 2022 17:32 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

Ok

I CANT BREATHE 😭😭😭😭😭😭

she had to come up with something real quick pic.twitter.com/6uVnDX1QDY

— Dame Fagatha Christie, PhD (@FagathaGagatha) May 10, 2023

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 11 May 2023 13:08 (eleven months ago) link

We had to buy replacement badminton shoes or a racquet or something, and the salesman told us they weren't available anymore. We asked what happened, and he said the company got busted working with North Korea or something!

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 May 2023 13:27 (eleven months ago) link

two months pass...

A person who said they witnessed the event and was part of the same tour group told CBS News they had just visited one of the buildings at the site when "this man gives out a loud 'ha ha ha,' and just runs in between some buildings."

I guess someone still thinks the place is hilarious.

pplains, Tuesday, 18 July 2023 16:26 (nine months ago) link

Defecting soldiers used to have some propaganda value during the Cold War, and a few settled down in the North. But I imagine now this is more of a headache than anything else for the North.. the guy probably doesn't have a lot of intelligence value, but maybe some diplomatic value if they want something from us. But I don't think he's going to be pampered like they were in the past

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 19 July 2023 17:05 (nine months ago) link

It was either this or go back to Texas.

pplains, Wednesday, 19 July 2023 17:08 (nine months ago) link

Lol

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 19 July 2023 17:09 (nine months ago) link

three months pass...

I wish they would let Google street view cars in there

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 27 October 2023 19:20 (five months ago) link


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