― Hurting (Hurting), Monday, 10 October 2005 05:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 10 October 2005 08:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Monday, 10 October 2005 08:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― N_RQ, Monday, 10 October 2005 08:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 10 October 2005 14:01 (eighteen years ago) link
yeah, great movie.
If one doesn't exist, I'm starting a Killing Zoe thread!
― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 10 October 2005 14:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― strng hlkngtn: what does it mean? (dubplatestyle), Monday, 10 October 2005 14:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― strng hlkngtn: what does it mean? (dubplatestyle), Monday, 10 October 2005 14:43 (eighteen years ago) link
Lee G. said something to me when it came out about how he DID think QT was in it, suspected that his voice might have come over the loudspeaker in one of the airport scenes.
― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 10 October 2005 14:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 10 October 2005 14:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― gear (gear), Monday, 10 October 2005 14:51 (eighteen years ago) link
i need to re-watch this.
― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 10 October 2005 14:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 10 October 2005 14:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 10 October 2005 14:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 10 October 2005 15:14 (eighteen years ago) link
WRONG.
Also: I love Keaton in this.
― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 10 October 2005 15:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 10 October 2005 15:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Monday, 10 October 2005 15:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― William Paper Scissors (Rock Hardy), Monday, 10 October 2005 15:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 10 October 2005 15:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 10 October 2005 15:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 10 October 2005 15:28 (eighteen years ago) link
And it certainly is Keaton's best recurring role, maybe his best role ever. Well, until Multiplicity 2, The Beginning: This Time It's Personal is finally released.
― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Monday, 10 October 2005 15:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 10 October 2005 15:31 (eighteen years ago) link
Three movies in a row with no guest starring role from the director gives me hope that he finally realizes he's not an actor.
He couldn't resist, though. He's the "automated" voice on Jackie's answering machine.
― not logging in, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 09:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― not logging in, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 09:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― gear (gear), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 09:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 13:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― Andy_K (Andy_K), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 14:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 14:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:31 (eighteen years ago) link
dude!
― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― senseiDancer (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:38 (eighteen years ago) link
It's a GOOD movie, but Tarantino is/was the most overhyped talented person on the planet. (He and Jimmy Kimmel after the Oscars: two geeks getting ready to watch 16 hours of splatter movies til their girlfriends come back from vacation.)
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:53 (eighteen years ago) link
Jackie Brown is just so good, though. I need to buy me a copy of it so I can re-watch the dressing room scene.
― Big Loud Mountain Ape (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:55 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm pretty sure there are other more over-hyped talented people (and fare more over-hyped LESS talented people.)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― senseiDancer (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― senseiDancer (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:10 (eighteen years ago) link
And I just remembered Pam was better in Mars Attacks! :D How is she on The L Word?
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:29 (eighteen years ago) link
OOS has the best bourbon sipping scene at a hotel bar with Clooney and J-Lo in cinema history
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 16:20 (two years ago) link
Are there others?
― Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 16:21 (two years ago) link
you don't own the George Clooney and Jennifer Lopez sipping bourbon in a hotel bar anthology?
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 16:23 (two years ago) link
Phaidon's coffee table edition is beautiful!
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 16:23 (two years ago) link
i saw 52-pick up when it came out in the theatersteen (15?) had no idea about elmore leonard - who he was etcwent to see it solely for fact that Vanity was in it (as a Prince & Vanity 6 fanboy)also reason saw The Last Dragon in theaters, which was a much more enjoyable experiencesleazy is still how feel when think of 52 pick-up decades later
― H in Addis, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 19:08 (two years ago) link
but to reaffirm thread title Jacki Brown is great
at age 10 or saw, went to see Foxy Brown 4 times in the theater (Addis in late 70s and early 80s hads wildly varying times of whem novies would arrive and some jarring juxtapositions on saturday matinees when you'd go in for 3 movies back to back)
my parents did not accompany me to any of my foxy brown screenings and def would not have approved if aware but i loved it and pam grier ever since
― H in Addis, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 19:12 (two years ago) link
The Grier & Forster casting sends this movie to a level it couldn't have touched with any other pair of actors. Together they make the movie. Well scripted, too. I'm not sure Tarantino added much to the project compared to some other director working with the same script & cast.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 19:35 (two years ago) link
I'm not sure that the guy who wrote the script for that cast added much to the project by the guy who wrote the script for that cast
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 19:58 (two years ago) link
Aimless:
After completing Pulp Fiction, Quentin Tarantino and Roger Avary acquired the film rights to Elmore Leonard's novels Rum Punch, Freaky Deaky, and Killshot. Tarantino initially planned to film either Freaky Deaky or Killshot and have another director make Rum Punch, but changed his mind after re-reading Rum Punch, saying he "fell in love" with the novel all over again.[4] Killshot was later adapted into a film, produced by Jackie Brown producer Lawrence Bender. While adapting Rum Punch into a screenplay, Tarantino changed the ethnicity of the main character from white to black, as well as renaming her from Burke to Brown, titling the screenplay Jackie Brown. Tarantino hesitated to discuss the changes with Leonard, finally speaking with Leonard as the film was about to start shooting. Leonard loved the screenplay, considering it not only the best of the twenty-six screen adaptations of his novels and short stories, but also stating that it was possibly the best screenplay he had ever read.[4]
Tarantino's screenplay otherwise closely followed Leonard's novel, incorporating elements of Tarantino's trademark humor and pacing.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 20:00 (two years ago) link
afaics, Tarantino's best contribution was ensuring Pam Grier played the lead character and bringing Forster in for the main supporting role. The script, as noted, closely followed the novel. If Tarantino had bowed out early and handed over the same cast and script to another director, the movie would probably have worked out just fine.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 20:10 (two years ago) link
did you read the script before or after you saw the film?
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 20:12 (two years ago) link
(xpost) As much as I agree that the performances of Grier/Forster are central--and as much as I'm far from a Tarantino lover--I do think he brought a lot to this that another director wouldn't have. Sam Jackson is, for me, as crucial as Grier/Forster, and I suspect he and Tarantino really worked together to craft that character. Or little things like Johnny Cash as Ordell sits outside Jackie's apartment; that's Tarantino.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 20:57 (two years ago) link
The script, as noted, closely followed the novel.
Aimless, did you read the excerpt explaining Tarantino's changing Jackie to a Black woman? That's a major change!
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 20:58 (two years ago) link
I found this pretty empty and tedious when it came out; but very curious to rewatch as an older viewer -- perhaps the slower rhythms will make more sense. Not a big fan of the novel either - I think it’s the nearest Leonard got to producing a stock “Miami caper” novel.
― Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 21:15 (two years ago) link
perfect line
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3e7wbs_xfas
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 21:17 (two years ago) link
tarantino’s fingerprints are all over this movie, from the script to the soundtrack to the camera angles to the dialogue to the casting to the editing.. ffs just look at get shorty or true romance for a taste of what a “replacement level director” would bring to a story like this
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 21:30 (two years ago) link
A "script" isn't even a play -- it's a network of suggestions that a resourceful director will modify.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 21:44 (two years ago) link
The source material maybe helps the pacing of the movie somehow? I dunno. But t has a much more relaxed vibe than anything else he’s done and I love it so much. It moves at the speed of Forster’s character, and with his same intensity
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 22:52 (two years ago) link
There's a shot of Forster walking out of a screening at an AMC mall theatre, his hands in his pockets, that's so casually good, so redolent of the character he plays, that no one else could've realized it.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 22:55 (two years ago) link
he's walking out of an weekday afternoon screening!
that's a great shot
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 22:55 (two years ago) link
It’s such a *casual* film, even when shit gets wild.
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 23:16 (two years ago) link
yeah exactly
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 23:21 (two years ago) link
It's a great movie, great cast, great book, but to argue any Tarantino movie doesn't have his fingerprints all over it (for better or worse) and that anyone could have done it is crazy
AND he's literally the only director on Earth who was going to cast Forster and Grier as the leads in a movie in 1997
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 23:22 (two years ago) link
I remember reading an interview with Stephen King where he said his reward for finishing a novel was reading an Elmore Leonard book. I thought that a really wonderful compliment.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 23:25 (two years ago) link
it’s a really great version of the kind of films and TV shows I normally hate
― Dan S, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 23:26 (two years ago) link
and yeah, Tarantino’s fingerprints are all over it. It is a movie out of time, like Forster & DeNiro & Grier, so all the locations & cars & outfits have a very specific 70’s look while also seeming like present day…down to like, the car Forster drives or the loungey carpeted bar they go to, Grier’s airline & uniform. Tarantino cares enough about that granular stuff to hire the kind of ppl who *also* care. Same with the music. To me his specificity is what defines his style
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 23:47 (two years ago) link
Y'all are my people, y'all know this.
― pplains, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 00:30 (two years ago) link
But
https://i.imgur.com/hfHQVoB.gif
lmao
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 00:33 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZNufFkpgIc
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 00:41 (two years ago) link
sry pplains
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 02:03 (two years ago) link
please pass the milk, please
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 02:48 (two years ago) link
yes, and probably the only one with the confidence to play out the entire heist scene twice & at that pace. The film is a miracle.
― Heavy Messages (jed_), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 11:44 (two years ago) link
lol ppTarantino more about footprints anyway surely
― siffleur’s mom (wins), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 13:04 (two years ago) link
https://media1.giphy.com/media/BMTzHbtf96few/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e476barkc2oirf4s7whed7dqp8y4ciywyev112uy7d3&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g
QT while he's editing one of the numerous female foot shoots in his movies
― calzino, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 13:21 (two years ago) link
Oh no, someone accidentally added sexual overtones to the scene in Jackie Brown where the first woman Louis has seen in many years seduces him, in a manner that establishes her propensity for boundary-pushing. No wonder Sally Menke got fired for this blunder.
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 15:47 (two years ago) link